17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[EvonRose]

Neighborhood watch patrols shouldn't be carrying guns. Unfortunately, so long as Zimmerman had a concealed weapon permit and a legal fire arm, he can carry a gun any time he wants; even during patrols. You're right, though. Neighborhood watch should NEVER be armed with lethal weapons. Their first responsibility is reporting crimes to the proper authorities, not intervening and attempting to stop criminals. That's why they aren't police.

Zimmerman got caught up in a fight or flight and picked the wrong one. I don't think this case has anything to do with racism necessarily; in other words, I highly doubt Zimmerman hates black people, but racial profiling and stereotypes are kinda racist, and the guy was caught following Trayvon around the neighborhood for hours, so who knows.

I do think Zimmerman should be found guilty of man slaughter. Trayvon was disabled and on the ground when he was shot a second time. That is NOT self defense.

I agree, like I said in previous post they should limit the gun control, because zimmerman was crazy he had mental problems...

i don't thin it's racism, However it was racial profiling so maybe not racism to that extent. I agree..

I don't think Zimmerman should get manslaughter, I think he should get murder.

He could have stopped ask the kid a few question, or like you said called the cops which he did and they told him to stop following the kid, he didn't follow.

Being licensed, why didn't he ask questions first? Evidence has no proof Treyvon was a threat, he had no gun, or anything for the matter, he shot Treyvon because he said he looked like he had a weapon? That usually does not got too well with the courts. He is a child killer, he belong to the devil now and his soul will never find peace even if he doesn't go to jail.

[urbanchampion]

If Pres. Obama or Al Sharpton were any type of leaders they would be trying to combat this epidemic. This is true whether or not you believe Trayvon to be an innocent.

The President doesn't need to try to do something about this. That is not his job. He can make a statement about it, sure. But he has nothing to do about this.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are fucking jokes. They are worthless. All they do is get people upset and foaming at the god damn mouth (all types of people, white, black, etc). And this is coming from someone who IS black.

As someone who leans towards anarchic values (on some days moreso than others, depending on my mood), I will say this. Crime...gangs...hate groups...any and all types...CAN be drastically reduced if the people who are effected by it are no longer afraid and they have the avenue to work together to destroy it. We HONESTLY don't need to fully depend on authoritarian types like law enforcement or the government. You have problems with gangs like the Bloods and Crips that just seem to be a permanent fixture in some areas, you have problems with religious and ethnic hate groups that also seem to never go away like in Texas which has the highest number of racial/religious-based hate groups in the nation like Nazis and Christian Identity. Authoritarians obviously can't do shit about it because they're still there. There's a damn good chance that they really don't give a fuck and LET them exist. Reminds me of how they dragged their damned feet about handling the Mafia. The people (those who have to put up with them and live in fear) vastly outnumber the shit that infests their society, and they could easily do something about them (ranging from getting them arrested or simply killing them) but people's minds have been made so docile with meaningless, dumbing-down bullshit that it seems that they just don't care anymore. That, and the fact that the authoritarians have made it so that people have to depend on them so they can have some sense of half-assed pseudo-security. You have to play by the rules that THEY set down because if you don't you're considered just as fucked up as the trash ruining society. And WHERE is that getting us? I think you ALL know the answer to that.

[EZWind]

Some sterotypes are true. For example, I wouldn't let my children be around a Catholic Priest unsupervised. That scary white guy driving around your neighborhood in a van with the windows blacked out might be a child molester.

...well, ya got this much right for the most part

The people that are trying to incite race riots in FLA, would serve their race much better if they addressed the endemic problem of violence within the black community. Why didn't hear the race hustlers like Al Sharpton speak up when Rhianna was beaten up or Michael Vick was arrested for dog fighting. Simply put, they care very little about the black community other than for their own political gain.

...nobody is trying to incite any race riots...the demonstrations have been very peaceful. Rev Al is neither a race hustler nor a politician, and in fact cares a great deal for the black community. There is nothing to be gained here by him personally, he's involved in this situation at the behest of the Martin family, who are asking for justice and due process. If it was Zimmerman layin there dead that would not be considered an unreasonable request in any way.

....yet they demand affirmative action quotas, and every increasing amounts of welfare for no work; it doesn't matter if you don't have a job go ahead and have 5 different kids from five different ghetto bunnies. I'm sick of having to pay taxes to support these individuals.

....it's a safe bet your precious tax dollars are supporting just as many white trailer trash welfare queens as black down there. Ya started out on the right foot there my friend, but the rest of your statement here displays a level of confusion that would indicate maybe you should cut back on your dosage of Rush Limpballs listening and OReally/Hannity viewing

[yodajazz]

Some sterotypes are true. For example, I wouldn't let my children be around a Catholic Priest unsupervised. That scary white guy driving around your neighborhood in a van with the windows blacked out might be a child molester. A black guy (who doesn't live in your gated community) but is strolling around it is likely up to no good. I don't live in a gated community, but if I did I would expect that there would only be residents and their guests within said community and random people were not welcome.

The point I bring up about the black on black violence is that it is chiefly due to family breakdown within the black subculture (which in the last 20 years or so glorifiesy violence.

The people that are trying to incite race riots in FLA, would serve their race much better if they addressed the endemic problem of violence within the black community. Why didn't hear the race hustlers like Al Sharpton speak up when Rhianna was beaten up or Michael Vick was arrested for dog fighting. Simply put, they care very little about the black community other than for their own political gain. These are the same people that tell us that blacks are as capable as anyone else, yet they demand affirmative action quotas, and every increasing amounts of welfare for no work; it doesn't matter if you don't have a job go ahead and have 5 different kids from five different ghetto bunnies. I'm sick of having to pay taxes to support these individuals.

I lost a long post, in reply to the 'affirmative action' part of this post. My main point was that people who complain about it, dont understand recent history, or how life works. White have had 'affirmative action' since the nation was founded, and continue to have it to this day, as new job requirements are stilled being raised that put Blacks at an unfair disadvantage.

You complain about paying taxes. But I would bet that at some point in recent history your current job, education or job training excluded minorities, overtly. Most people understand that life is not fair. But affirmative action is one of those legal remedies that tries to level the playing field.

If Trayvon Martin, could not even walk to the store, without being killed, do you think that a business in that community would have hired him for a job, over a White kid who grew up in that community?

[hippifried]

If you feel so disenfranchised and like you can't compete in the world, I'd blame rich white guys like maybe the Rockefellers or even the Koch brothers.

So now we can add heresy to your list of sins?

[Nicole Dupre]

So now we can add heresy to your list of sins?

Of course. That's one of my favorites.

[onmyknees]

I just want to add, I've actually lived in a gated community in FL, and it was in an area which included a few other gated communities. In between mine and the next one was a golf course and a country club. Black people certainly lived in the area. Seeing people walking to the center of town was not uncommon. And certainly kids walking to a convenience store for candy or some other junk food was nothing to raise an eyebrow over; nothing to take the law into one's own hands over and approach anyone wearing a hoodie, with a gun and a preconceived notion that you needed to follow them to see if they were engaging in criminal activity. In fact, can you guess who the scariest locals in that area were? They were the white trash dirt bags who were leaving KKK and skinhead propaganda pamphlets in the local shopping malls. Anyway, that's my perspective on gated communities in FL. I think it carries more weight than yours unless you lived in one for a few years.

Obviously you live with a fear and resentment of black people. You're making some pretty weak arguments. If you feel so disenfranchised and like you can't compete in the world, I'd blame rich white guys like maybe the Rockefellers or even the Koch brothers.

Ok...just to clarify please .....all the country's social ills....which Rockefeller are we blaming? Nelson? David? or perhaps Jay ? Or can we trace this back to John D and William ? All of the above? And what about the Rockefeller sisters? lmao

You're smart but that's a pretty drastic oversimplification.

[trish]

Ok...just to clarify please .....all the country's social ills... lmao

You're smart but that's a pretty drastic oversimplification.

Ok...just to clarify: In your brain when Nicole discusses the racial and youth distributions in one particular gated community in Florida and speculates what is true there might be true in other gated communities in Florida she's talking about "all the country's social ills." lmao. That's just an overt misrepresentation of what another person said in order to what?...defend the hegemony of the wealth-elite?

[onmyknees]

Maybe read her post again. There's a paragraph break between her expierence on the gated communities she lived in and her assessment of feeling disenfranchised and the reasons for that. I took those to be 2 separate thoughts....maybe you didn't..........who cares? Why don't you comment on her thesis instead of commenting on my response? That would be more instructive...come on...we know you've been looking for this opening to go into your shtick about OWS and the 1%ers. lol

[yourdaddy]

A neighborhood watch patrol struck again in Sanford today. two black thugs beat a fifty year old white man nearly to death with hammers. This on top of the two-man neighborhood watch patrol that shot and killed two drunk British tourists who were lost and walked into their hood. The shooter was sentenced to life WOP last week.

Did any of you people hear anything in the press about either case...I doubt it.