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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Quote Originally Posted by EvonRose View Post
    Statistics show that white men are the highest percentage of child molestation, and serial killer... Should we not allow our kids to walk in a n all white neighborhood in fear of a white man molesting them?

    There are racial stereotypes, but it doesn't mean its true.... A black person has any right to wear a hood on a rainy cold day and not be a hood rat...

    If treyvon ahd shot zimmerman, no doubt in my mind he would have been sentenced to death already...
    Some sterotypes are true. For example, I wouldn't let my children be around a Catholic Priest unsupervised. That scary white guy driving around your neighborhood in a van with the windows blacked out might be a child molester. A black guy (who doesn't live in your gated community) but is strolling around it is likely up to no good. I don't live in a gated community, but if I did I would expect that there would only be residents and their guests within said community and random people were not welcome.

    The point I bring up about the black on black violence is that it is chiefly due to family breakdown within the black subculture (which in the last 20 years or so glorifiesy violence.

    The people that are trying to incite race riots in FLA, would serve their race much better if they addressed the endemic problem of violence within the black community. Why didn't hear the race hustlers like Al Sharpton speak up when Rhianna was beaten up or Michael Vick was arrested for dog fighting. Simply put, they care very little about the black community other than for their own political gain. These are the same people that tell us that blacks are as capable as anyone else, yet they demand affirmative action quotas, and every increasing amounts of welfare for no work; it doesn't matter if you don't have a job go ahead and have 5 different kids from five different ghetto bunnies. I'm sick of having to pay taxes to support these individuals.



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Quote Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001 View Post
    Some sterotypes are true. For example, I wouldn't let my children be around a Catholic Priest unsupervised. That scary white guy driving around your neighborhood in a van with the windows blacked out might be a child molester. A black guy (who doesn't live in your gated community) but is strolling around it is likely up to no good. I don't live in a gated community, but if I did I would expect that there would only be residents and their guests within said community and random people were not welcome.

    The point I bring up about the black on black violence is that it is chiefly due to family breakdown within the black subculture (which in the last 20 years or so glorifiesy violence.

    The people that are trying to incite race riots in FLA, would serve their race much better if they addressed the endemic problem of violence within the black community. Why didn't hear the race hustlers like Al Sharpton speak up when Rhianna was beaten up or Michael Vick was arrested for dog fighting. Simply put, they care very little about the black community other than for their own political gain. These are the same people that tell us that blacks are as capable as anyone else, yet they demand affirmative action quotas, and every increasing amounts of welfare for no work; it doesn't matter if you don't have a job go ahead and have 5 different kids from five different ghetto bunnies. I'm sick of having to pay taxes to support these individuals.
    i get what your saying but just because a group of them seem that way, people also dotn see the successful blacks, or educate blacks.

    Why can't you walk trough a neighborhood to get to your place, I have not heard the neighborhood being gated was it?

    If you were to walk trough a rich neighborhood lets say beverly hills to get to point a to point b, what right does anyone to come to you and cause you of being a thug just cause your not wearing designer clothes?

    To me its a really petty excuse to shoot a 17 year old, he was crazy! Zimmerman is a lunatic, crazy people should not be watching over neighborhoods or carrying guns!



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    The people that are trying to incite race riots in FLA...
    Nobody is trying to incite race riots in Florida. That is a red-herring invented to divert attention from the issues that gave rise to Trayvon shooting, namely racism and idiotic stand your ground laws. Why are you so afraid to discuss either of these issues?


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    Quote Originally Posted by EvonRose View Post
    i get what your saying but just because a group of them seem that way, people also dotn see the successful blacks, or educate blacks.

    Why can't you walk trough a neighborhood to get to your place, I have not heard the neighborhood being gated was it?

    If you were to walk trough a rich neighborhood lets say beverly hills to get to point a to point b, what right does anyone to come to you and cause you of being a thug just cause your not wearing designer clothes?

    To me its a really petty excuse to shoot a 17 year old, he was crazy! Zimmerman is a lunatic, crazy people should not be watching over neighborhoods or carrying guns!
    Neighborhood watch patrols shouldn't be carrying guns. Unfortunately, so long as Zimmerman had a concealed weapon permit and a legal fire arm, he can carry a gun any time he wants; even during patrols. You're right, though. Neighborhood watch should NEVER be armed with lethal weapons. Their first responsibility is reporting crimes to the proper authorities, not intervening and attempting to stop criminals. That's why they aren't police.

    Zimmerman got caught up in a fight or flight and picked the wrong one. I don't think this case has anything to do with racism necessarily; in other words, I highly doubt Zimmerman hates black people, but racial profiling and stereotypes are kinda racist, and the guy was caught following Trayvon around the neighborhood for hours, so who knows.

    I do think Zimmerman should be found guilty of man slaughter. Trayvon was disabled and on the ground when he was shot a second time. That is NOT self defense.



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    I didn't realize Zimmerman shot Trayvon TWICE. Hard to justify squeezing off two rounds in that kind of situation.

    Zimmerman is the last person who should have been a part of any kind of neighborhood watch.



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Quote Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel View Post
    I didn't realize Zimmerman shot Trayvon TWICE. Hard to justify squeezing off two rounds in that kind of situation.

    Zimmerman is the last person who should have been a part of any kind of neighborhood watch.
    I'm not sure that Zimmerman shot Treyvon twice. Neighbors report hearing one gun shot, Treyvon yelling "You got me!" and a second gun shot. Yeah, Zimmerman fucked up big time. He should have called suspicious activity in instead of following Treyvon around himself. He should have called the police instead of confronting the kid, and he definitely should have stopped shooting once Treyvon was disabled. Course, I don't think Treyvon ever actually fought with Zimmerman, and I doubt there was any need to disable him in the first place.



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Quote Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001 View Post
    A black guy (who doesn't live in your gated community) but is strolling around it is likely up to no good.
    LOL You're seriously an intellectual light weight if that makes sense to you. That's about the stupidest excuse for logic someone's run by this forum in years.



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    I guess I'd better not take a stroll on Rodeo Drive (the residential part) then!


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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    I am increasingy puzzled by the term 'neighbourhoods' -in Sanford I would ask what neighbourhood? I read somewhere that the residents in that gated community did not know most of their neighbours because foreclosures had forced some people to move and new people move in. How many of the people living in that gated community did Zimmerman know, and even if he knew half of them, how would he know if one resident was hosting visitors for the weekend whose son slipped out during a ball game to buy some snacks?

    I don't know what the facts are in the case, as I have said before; now I am not even sure what the word neighbourhood means. How many of your neighbours where you live do you know other than maybe saying Hi when you pass on the street, if that?



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Quote Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001 View Post
    Some sterotypes are true. For example, I wouldn't let my children be around a Catholic Priest unsupervised. That scary white guy driving around your neighborhood in a van with the windows blacked out might be a child molester. A black guy (who doesn't live in your gated community) but is strolling around it is likely up to no good. I don't live in a gated community, but if I did I would expect that there would only be residents and their guests within said community and random people were not welcome.

    The point I bring up about the black on black violence is that it is chiefly due to family breakdown within the black subculture (which in the last 20 years or so glorifiesy violence.

    The people that are trying to incite race riots in FLA, would serve their race much better if they addressed the endemic problem of violence within the black community. Why didn't hear the race hustlers like Al Sharpton speak up when Rhianna was beaten up or Michael Vick was arrested for dog fighting. Simply put, they care very little about the black community other than for their own political gain. These are the same people that tell us that blacks are as capable as anyone else, yet they demand affirmative action quotas, and every increasing amounts of welfare for no work; it doesn't matter if you don't have a job go ahead and have 5 different kids from five different ghetto bunnies. I'm sick of having to pay taxes to support these individuals.
    I just want to add, I've actually lived in a gated community in FL, and it was in an area which included a few other gated communities. In between mine and the next one was a golf course and a country club. Black people certainly lived in the area. Seeing people walking to the center of town was not uncommon. And certainly kids walking to a convenience store for candy or some other junk food was nothing to raise an eyebrow over; nothing to take the law into one's own hands over and approach anyone wearing a hoodie, with a gun and a preconceived notion that you needed to follow them to see if they were engaging in criminal activity. In fact, can you guess who the scariest locals in that area were? They were the white trash dirt bags who were leaving KKK and skinhead propaganda pamphlets in the local shopping malls. Anyway, that's my perspective on gated communities in FL. I think it carries more weight than yours unless you lived in one for a few years.

    Obviously you live with a fear and resentment of black people. You're making some pretty weak arguments. If you feel so disenfranchised and like you can't compete in the world, I'd blame rich white guys like maybe the Rockefellers or even the Koch brothers.



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