17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[yourdaddy]

You thought wrong...again. It's been dryer than a popcorn fart in Central Florida.

Hell, I'd wear a Malcolm X t-shirt if I had one. That's a hell of a lot better than a Winnie Mandela shirt. OOOoops. You are too young and naive to know who she was.

Here's a good Winnie story: While visiting the United Kingdom, Winnie Mandela was invited to a cocktail party which was also to be attended by Margaret Thatcher.

When Winnie saw the ex-prime minister on the other side of the room, she barged past everyone, spilling the drinks of several invited guests on the way.

Winnie elbowed her way to Maggie, stood brazenly in front of her and declared,

"I hear they call you the Iron Lady!"

"I have been referred to by that name, yes," replied Maggie, peering down her nose at this impudent upstart.

"And whom, may I enquire, do I have the honour of addressing?" asked Maggie icily.

"I am the iron lady of South Africa!" bragged Winnie, waving her fist in the air.

"Oh, yes," replied Maggie dryly. "And for whom do you iron?"

[BluegrassCat]

You thought wrong...again. It's been dryer than a popcorn fart in Central Florida.

Zimmerman says it's raining in the 911 call.

Zimmerman also seems to whisper "fucking coons" during the call, but it's hard to be certain.

Clearly, nothing racial here. Move along.

[Stavros]

As with so many/too many of these incidents, the details are contested so that its hard to know exactly what happened, vide:

It was raining...it was not raining
Zimmerman was a neighbourhood watch captain...Zimmerman was not a neighbourhood watch captain
Zimmerman was attacked by Trayvon...Zimmerman was not attacked by Trayvon
The incident happened in a gated community...Trayvon was shot outside the gated community

What we do know is that an unarmed teenager was shot dead; that the law in Florida allows anyone with a gun "to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force".

The FBI are now investigating this incident.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...tigation-opens

[Instrumental]

Trayvon was talking to a 16 year old female friend just before he was killed.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...7#.T2iYNNWjOSo

[chromeheart44m]

rally in ny today at union square

[nonnonnon]

smh
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/artic...5219277908.txt

[Odelay]

Here's what I don't understand, and maybe somebody has already raised this, but...

do Floridians who pack heat know the "stand your ground" law? Are they ready to shoot first and ask questions later because they know they'll beat any murder rap? If so, that's cold. Did Zimmerman know the law? Is it common knowledge amongst most gun enthusiasts in Florida and other states where it's been enacted.

I confess, I don't know crap about guns. 35 years ago, in HS, I would go out grouse hunting with a .410 gauge shotgun and friends. That's the extent of my knowledge.

[onmyknees]

Didn't take long to turn this into a real HA shit fest complete with amateur psychologists and wanna bee police investigators.. Remember when that French dude ( head of the World Bank) "raped " that black hotel chamber maid in Manhattan and they made him do the perp walk????? Go back and read that thread and some of the same people who wanted him castrated are playin' the judge and jury thing here again. Did you fuckers suck it up and say you were wrong about the Frenchman after the Manhattan DA dismissed the charges because she was lying? ? Sure you did. You think the cops and the FBI have released all the details? Hardly.
We have a seemingly good young kid dead............brutally tragic under any circumstances. We have some details that have been released.....and it appears "on the surface" to be something troubling , but I'd advise y'all keep that hanging rope put away for the time being. If any of you have ever felt the grip of a set of cuffs.....you know you're glad you live in a country where the presumption of innocence is a hallmark. And lest you think haters don't come in all colors......check this out. I wonder if this made the news over in the UK ?

[yourdaddy]

THIS !!! Black on white crime is rarely reported, much less sensationalized. When are you leftist idiots gonna admit that truth? http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

How many of you hiders have been molested, ripped off, or otherwise totally let down by black "friends"?

It's time you started blaming the Dutch, Portuguese,Africans, British, French, Spanish, and the other nations who were a hell of a lot more responsible for the injustices 300 years ago.

[Odelay]

Not sure what my position was on the Dominc Strauss/hotel maid thread. I might not have participated at all. I generally do withhold judgment on these criminal type of cases, but I'm human and sometimes I find myself taking a shortcut. On this case, as I state above, I'm more interested in how people... victims, defendants, bystanders, judges, etc., are interpreting the law. I haven't read this entire thread but "shitfest" seems a little bit of an overstatement. As in all of these threads, there are people who come blazing forward from opposite extremes, but much of the dialogue seems pretty reasonable. If I filter out the extreme viewpoints I can sometimes learn something, especially from people overseas who can be more objective or at least come at it from a different perspective.