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    That people were ever allowed to download content just because they had a subscription was always ridiculous. You should've never had that option to begin with. You should be logged on with your membership every time you get to see the content. Period. Wanna see it again a month from now? Stay subscribed or rejoin. But it's a bit to late to adopt that mentality now, after years of everyone handing over their site's content on a silver platter for a measly $30.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jericho View Post
    I like that, who wrote it?
    Kinda like saying using a 20th century solution to a 21st century problem.
    Actually, I wrote it, so thank you.

    ~BB~



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Can you do both?
    Probably... But generally speaking, but it might a bad idea from a PR standpoint to sue the fans, whether they're ripping you off or not. You'll see it as defending your rights, many will attribute it to greed and feel even less inclined to pay you money.

    The entire entertainment industry is struggling with this, but I think the sheer number of users on the Internet can support much lower prices and a per video format. Google and the iTunes store have made billions with that model. Why don't you try it with one site or one video on a site and see how it works out? You might even try a percentage of sales deal with the models.

    I truly believe there is a sweet spot where the majority of users will say "Well, I really want to see this and it's only $2 so I'll buy it rather than waste my time looking for it elsewhere." But it has to be quality, and it has to be the right price. Sadly, I have no idea what the actual price would be. I also think the per video model will give you much better idea of what's selling and where to put your money.

    But I'm no expert. These are just thoughts.



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    Default Re: Grooby Legal Action against Piracy ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobzz View Post
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    I get your frustration but you're misinformed about the law.
    So religion states that having sex with another man is wrong. Does that stop you (or me) from doing so. After all fucking someone with a dick is againts any religion. Does that stop anyone from doing so. Religion and laws are created by man. Are they right or wrong? It doesnt matter. Do as you want and you shall be free.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bobhutt46 View Post
    So religion states that having sex with another man is wrong. Does that stop you (or me) from doing so. After all fucking someone with a dick is againts any religion. Does that stop anyone from doing so. Religion and laws are created by man. Are they right or wrong? It doesnt matter. Do as you want and you shall be free.
    Wow ... what another intelligent and well thought out argument. So anybody can do as they want?
    Brilliant.

    You are either an idiot savant or just an idiot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Wow ... what another intelligent and well thought out argument. So anybody can do as they want?
    Brilliant.

    You are either an idiot savant or just an idiot.
    Name calling is just the result of a feeble intellect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobhutt46 View Post
    Name calling is just the result of a feeble intellect.
    At least you have managed to post a rational point. Well done, give yourself credit. What's your excuse for the other rubbish you've posted?


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    Years ago, when I was in the travelling book business (You didn't know they had legs, did you? Just like clams.), we had a mantra:

    People are stupid.
    They will buy anything for a buck.
    Buy now, buy low, buy lots.

    As crass as it sounds, this formula worked rather well, not just in books, but in other commodities as well.

    I've been guilty of file sharing, as have we all (The ones that say they haven't will lie about masturbation, too). I've seen the error of my ways, reformed, and moved on. I've also suffered the effects of it as I have a hand in a dotcom that has its fingers in the VOD download model. As 'free' interweb video viewing became prevalent, our revenues slid downward.

    We don't have all that much to lose as most of the content we pimp is previous or existing product that was legally licensed for the VOD model. Still, we feel the pinch. The same cannot be said of the producers/providers/talent of that content.

    Then come the creators. I attended a talk by Cory Doctorow, a science fiction author/editor that is very in tune to what is happening on the interwebs as far as content and legal/illegal sharing is involved. While he is certainly concerned as to the whereabouts and distribution of his own intellectual property, he is also concerned about the various shotgun responses and bows-and-arrows-against-the-lightning (Reference: Jeff Wayne's "War Of The Worlds") defenses that are waged in the anti-piracy fight. Doctorow's adamant opposition against SOPA/PIPA and his detailed reasons for it, show that there is still a great deal of work to be done to develop a fair balance for both producer and consumer.

    "Free. That's the best price." - Gary Cogdell, musician, producer and potential victim of bootlegging/piracy.

    When does it become 'right'?

    Best answer: It doesn't, and laws and regulations make it impossible as an option. In real life, however, the threat remains and is epidemic. The best that we can hope for is that our respective creation, be it written, acoustic, visual, or whatever is so unique, so original, so high quality that we can depend on a certain number of people to support us in all of our endeavors to the point that we can profit, or at the very least, be fulfilled.


    "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre View Post
    That people were ever allowed to download content just because they had a subscription was always ridiculous. You should've never had that option to begin with. You should be logged on with your membership every time you get to see the content. Period. Wanna see it again a month from now? Stay subscribed or rejoin. But it's a bit to late to adopt that mentality now, after years of everyone handing over their site's content on a silver platter for a measly $30.
    People should have the option to download content. When you buy a DVD, you own it. You can watch it as much as you want in private without always buying the same movie to view over and over again. No is going to rejoin a site to watch one video again. One video is NOT worth $30 to view every few months when you are in the mood to watch it.



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    l wish porn producers would concentrate on finding ways to make buying porn easy & affordable like itunes.
    I could pirate songs almost as easily as buying them from itunes but l still choose to buy 'most' of my tracks from itunes.Why ? Because the price is reasonable and the purchasing mechanism is easy.And I don't have to buy an whole CD,just the songs l want.
    An itunes type Grooby site would be great,where you could buy a single scene for £5.99 & £1.99 for the photo set.I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons way it's not possible to do.But that would be great.



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