Grooby Legal Action against Piracy ...

[Paladin]

from seanchai:
Ah, but that farmer has a sign up which says, these are farmer Steven's stolen apples but I don't care because I have a gun. You can have them for free but you do know, that they are stolen.
So fuck those people - they took their choice. It is no different from buying a stolen car from a thief, you are enabling that thief.
Pretty well said, and lets not get into the apples vs oranges thing, while we're at it, because i prefer peaches

[tsmandy]

I'm down. lets sue every single one of the mother fuckers. Oh shit bet ya didn't know that stolen movie would cost ya 5grand ! Fuckers.

[irvin66]

Ahoy Matey! Pardon me, but would ya mind if I fired me cannon through your porthole?

[Instrumental]

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=IeTybKL1pM4

[BellaBellucci]

When those who champion failed paradigms lose their dominance, they always resort to force instead of new thinking. In this case, it's legal force, but it's force nonetheless.

Don't hate the player, hate the game... and change it.

~BB~

[werwt22]

Ehhhh I dont agree with suing the users. I agree with shutting down the website, or pursuing the people that post it not the ones that download it.

[Tika]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...p-attorney.ars

Please tell me this was the moron you had suing people.

[MacShreach]

Ehhhh I dont agree with suing the users. I agree with shutting down the website, or pursuing the people that post it not the ones that download it.

That is what will happen, indeed, is happening. However in doing so what is being created is the classic recipe for a prohibition-style black market. There are many examples of similar areas where authorities have attempted to target the suppliers and not the consumers, and the result has always been that the effort is ineffectual; while some big drug-dealers or internet pirates may go to jail, the market remains, and its lucrative nature means that new dealers and pirates spring up to take the place of those who have been challenged.

Of course, this is the only thing that can happen, because sovereignty resides with the people, and some estimates suggest that 25% of internet users have downloaded material illegally. Since there are 272 million internet users in the USA ALONE, 85 million of them would therefore be liable. (source: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm) What do you think all those millions of moms and pops are going to do if they see their kids dragged off to jail? That's right, they're going to give their politicians a real roasting, and the laws will be changed. That's if they don't break out the shotguns and storm the jailhouse. And if you take the same stats globally, there are over 500 million people who might be liable. ANYONE who thinks prosecuting them all is viable needs their head looked. Public--and that means voter--pressure simply will not permit it. Case in point: the UK gave the US some pretty draconian rights to extradite UK citizens after 911, in order to help fight terrorism, which was quite right. However the US authorities have been using these rights--in a handful of cases--to drag people accused of non-terrorism offences to the US for trial, and as a result of resulting media furore the UK Prime Minister has publicly stated that the rules are 'under review'. That's a warning shot saying, 'any more of this and we'll rescind the extradition treaty.' Well if that's what happens after a handful of cases, what do you think will happen if a few hundred extraditions for internet piracy are attempted? And the UK is a strong ally of the US--most other countries won't let them get even as far as the UK has.

Copyright is very important to me and I have spent years defending mine; theft is wrong and it should be punished. However, the simple fact is that the copyright model is broken, and we will have to come up with a new way of getting paid. The only people who are going to get rich playing whack-a-mole with internet pirates are the lawyers, and that not for long. Meantime, siding with the people who are increasingly being seen as the real villains, the RIAA and the MPAA, looks increasingly like a shortsighted move.

[MacShreach]

When those who champion failed paradigms lose their dominance, they always resort to force instead of new thinking. In this case, it's legal force, but it's force nonetheless.

Don't hate the player, hate the game... and change it.

~BB~

Pretty much.

[GroobySteven]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...p-attorney.ars

Please tell me this was the moron you had suing people.

Whom? Me? Absolutely not.