Occupy Wall Street protest

[robertlouis]

In certain cases ABSOLUTELY.

Ghadafi. Sadam. Osama. Taliban. Child molestors. Rapists.

Do you mean judicial murder for the last two categories or are you advocating vigilanteism?

[onmyknees]

Blue Grass Cat.....It's clear that neither of us is going to convince the other, so let's attempt a slightly different approach. You, your left wing brethern on HA, and every lib in the country love to parrot the administration's nonsense about the wonderful effects of the billion dollar stimulus, some of us on the hand prefer to deal in mathematic absolutes and maintain its un-provable to quantify a "saved or created" job, and that the vast majority of the money went to bail out states that made bad spending decesions themselves, and that before we embark on stimulus 2, 3, etc. we should have some clear data on the affects of such enormous deficit spending because that money either has to be borrowed or printed. Now read what Senator Toomey asks the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office director, Mr. Elmendorf at a Congressional Hearing. For those who aren't familiar with the CBO, they're essentially the country's accounting firm......This is enormously instructive as you, your idol Paul Krugman and the Dems assure us we can spend our way to prosperity rather than into oblivion.


SEN. TOOMEY: I know it is your view that the recent huge increase in spending and the corresponding big deficits have generated more economic growth and more job creation that we would have had in the absence of those things. But surely you'd agree, that that essentially asks for a comparison to a counterfactual, and as such, it's completely impossible to prove?

DR. DOUGLAS ELMENDORF, director of the CBO: Yes, that's right, senator.

So if the country's top accountant who strangely happens to agree with you about spending can't prove the stimulus worked with any degree of certainty and can't produce any evidence as such.....please explain to us how you can, and why we should double down.



Now the second exchange, but no less important.......get ready for this little nugget............



TOOMEY: The last point I'd just like to ask is, I think it's your view but I like to ask, is it your view that if we were to pursue revenue neutral tax reform, that would have the effect of broadening the base upon which taxes are applied and lowering marginal rates, that it is true both with respect to such corporate reform or individual reform that that would have a pro-growth effect on the economy, which of course would in turn generates more income for the government?

ELMENDORF: Yes, that's right. Again, the amount would depend on the specifics of the proposal.

Of course you remain unconvinced, on both spending and lowering tax rates but now at least you have the facts, and can completely indulge in your own economic fairy tales. Enjoy.

[cockgobbler]

Do you mean judicial murder for the last two categories or are you advocating vigilanteism?

If they are found gulity, let the parents/family flip the switch and fry their ass.

google the case of Paul Bernardo here in Toronto.

He and his wife kindapped, raped, tortured and murdered three girls INCLUDING his wifes sister whom the wife drugged and present unconcious as a "present" to Paul Bernardo.

He was also found guilty of dozens of rapes as "the Scarborough Rapist"

He is in jail in"protective custody" for the rest of his life segregated from the rest of the prison. She served 12 years and is already out back into society.

He should have been killed years ago.

[robertlouis]

If they are found gulity, let the parents/family flip the switch and fry their ass.

*SMH*

[MdR Dave]

Maybe the protesters in New York should be burning Teabaggers to keep warm.....

Nah, if you want heat you gotta burn something substantial.

[robertlouis]

Nah, if you want heat you gotta burn something substantial.

True, but it would be fun to watch all those pointy heads explode.

[cockgobbler]

*SMH*

Not familiar with what SMH means .

[robertlouis]

Not familiar with what SMH means .

Sorry, I'll make myself clear. I don't support the death penalty under any circumstances - that's why I described it as "judicial murder".

SMH = Shake my head.

But where it does exist it should be carried out dispassionately. Giving the responsibility to the victim's family disfigures the process and corrupts the family. They may not consider themselves to be murderers, but they have to carry the knowledge that they have killed another human being.

Justice is about being appropriate, not revenge.

[cockgobbler]

Sorry, I'll make myself clear. I don't support the death penalty under any circumstances - that's why I described it as "judicial murder".

SMH = Shake my head.

But where it does exist it should be carried out dispassionately. Giving the responsibility to the victim's family disfigures the process and corrupts the family. They may not consider themselves to be murderers, but they have to carry the knowledge that they have killed another human being.

Justice is about being appropriate, not revenge.

Hey, listen.

I completely respect your views, beliefs and opinions. I just disagree with them is all.

I guess I'm more along the line of "the hanging judge". Kill someone, you deserve to die. In the Bernardo case I mentioned above there was video evidence of the rape torture and murder of the three girls.

Both he and his wife should be 6 feet under.

Again, my opinion.

But we have both kind of gone off topic of the thread,

[MdR Dave]

OMK- your understanding of taxes and the macroeconomy is dim.

For the record, the nation's top accountant does not work at the CBO- those guys are flacks and hacks, just like most everyone in gvt. without decision power. (Those with decision power are worse- at some level they are just politicians. )