Occupy Wall Street protest

[Silcc69]

Unfortunately Stavros I just don't see how any of that can be paid for. Most states are broke, due to irresponsible spending. The federal government is broke, we can't afford it unless we cut back the spending so we can re-allocate the funds. In my opinion, if you went forward with a proposal such as that you would have the finest roads and infrastructure in a bankrupt country. It would be like remodeling your kitchen while your house was being foreclosed on. To me it makes no sense.

But we would be better served not only cutting back but also raising taxes. Something the republicans don't seem to interested in.

[Faldur]

This is from 2009, it may have accelerated since then.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/us/18census.html

Lol, not the fact that were becoming a minority. A fact backing up your basis for the comment "vicious mob that would rather see American burn than become a country where whites are the minority." Its baseless, and nothing more than your opinion.

Sorry my selective quote could have contained the additional info, figured you would understand what I meant.

[BluegrassCat]

Lol, not the fact that were becoming a minority. A fact backing up your basis for the comment "vicious mob that would rather see American burn than become a country where whites are the minority." Its baseless, and nothing more than your opinion.

Sorry my selective quote could have contained the additional info, figured you would understand what I meant.

Of course it's my opinion, but that doesn't make it baseless. Check out Pat Buchanan's new book, its the manifesto for this point of view.

[Heather Moorland]

Unfortunately Stavros I just don't see .....

Greece is broke because Stavros is lazy

[onmyknees]

See the Tea Party cheers the idea of a bridge collapsing under hundreds of people, just like they cheer executions and letting people without insurance die.
And btw infrastructure repair is exactly what Obama has been pushing. Things that should be nonpartisan have become partisan and it's not Obama's doing.

I hear this argument about infrastructure constantly, and your assessment of it is fairly accurate, your blame however is asinine, with all due respect. Let's take New York for example...a gallon of gas is $3.50. Of that, 3/4 of it are federal and state taxes. Think about how many gallons of gas are sold in NY on a daily basis. There were 555 billion gallons of gas sold in the 1st Q 2011 in the US. Do the math and tell me how the Tea Party figures into that equation? . Additionally, the last time I crossed the GW bridge it was 10 bucks.....each way. Ever see that bridge at rush hour? Also there are appropriations in every state budget for transportation projects, for infrastructure, and you blame the tea party ? Laughable...So where does all this money earmarked for road projects go?
Ever hear of the big dig in Boston? You should have...you're paying for it. It's no different than any other major highway project. Sleazy politicians giving no show jobs and contracts to political hacks and contributors,.( unions) Cost over runs, delays, poor engineering, and now they're afraid it leaks. Trump could have built that tunnel for half the money and and a third of the time, but then liberal politicians in Mass wouldn't have been able to line the pockets of political cronies. Got any blame in that rather large gullet of yours for John Kerry and Ted Kennedy? You should because they're directly responsible for this disaster .
Ever hear of the late Congressman John Murtha and his multi billion dollar airport that landed a whopping 3 planes a day ( including his ) ? He's currently under investigation, for this and other boondoggles....( oh yea....another liberal) unfortunately he's taking a long dirt nap. Or the late Robert Byrd who built 6 lane highways that are still not open....or secured transportation funds for a multi million dollar nuclear clock in of all places......West Virginia? And you blame the Tea Party?
There is more than enough taxes collected, more than enough tolls and motor vehicle fees charged. The problem is as it has always been....corruption, mis- allocation, waste and fraud, quasi government agencies set up by politicians that answer to no one, and political thievery. Your attempt to place blame anywhere but where it belongs defies logic and facts, but I understand there's an election coming and the blame game seems to suit folks of your persuasion rather well. And now you want more infrastructure spending.....which will have to be borrowed from China or Japan, and repayed with interest. For every dollar spent, 42 cents must be borrowed. I'm glad you're not handling my investment portfolio !

[Ben]

[Ben]

[Ben]

How dare they treat Geraldo like this.



I mean, he has done some quality/important programs:

[fred41]

How dare they treat Geraldo like this.



I mean, he has done some quality/important programs:

I'm not a big fan of Geraldo but, number one - he didn't run...he quietly left because there was no point in staying..there was no debate...nothing...he was just drowned out...(and he still let a few people take pics of him).

...number two - that guy at the end proved that what people were saying about them is true: they are a lot of idiots in the park.
no debate, not anything...we'll just drown you out with our idiotic, loud repetition, until we annoy the shit out of any real thinking man...it's like the drunk at a bar who thinks he's winning an argument with you because he just gets loud enough to drown you out and doesn't shut the fuck up.

[BluegrassCat]

I hear this argument about infrastructure constantly, and your assessment of it is fairly accurate, your blame however is asinine, with all due respect. Let's take New York for example...a gallon of gas is $3.50. Of that, 3/4 of it are federal and state taxes. Think about how many gallons of gas are sold in NY on a daily basis. There were 555 billion gallons of gas sold in the 1st Q 2011 in the US. Do the math and tell me how the Tea Party figures into that equation? . Additionally, the last time I crossed the GW bridge it was 10 bucks.....each way. Ever see that bridge at rush hour? Also there are appropriations in every state budget for transportation projects, for infrastructure, and you blame the tea party ? Laughable...So where does all this money earmarked for road projects go?
Ever hear of the big dig in Boston? You should have...you're paying for it. It's no different than any other major highway project. Sleazy politicians giving no show jobs and contracts to political hacks and contributors,.( unions) Cost over runs, delays, poor engineering, and now they're afraid it leaks. Trump could have built that tunnel for half the money and and a third of the time, but then liberal politicians in Mass wouldn't have been able to line the pockets of political cronies. Got any blame in that rather large gullet of yours for John Kerry and Ted Kennedy? You should because they're directly responsible for this disaster .
Ever hear of the late Congressman John Murtha and his multi billion dollar airport that landed a whopping 3 planes a day ( including his ) ? He's currently under investigation, for this and other boondoggles....( oh yea....another liberal) unfortunately he's taking a long dirt nap. Or the late Robert Byrd who built 6 lane highways that are still not open....or secured transportation funds for a multi million dollar nuclear clock in of all places......West Virginia? And you blame the Tea Party?
There is more than enough taxes collected, more than enough tolls and motor vehicle fees charged. The problem is as it has always been....corruption, mis- allocation, waste and fraud, quasi government agencies set up by politicians that answer to no one, and political thievery. Your attempt to place blame anywhere but where it belongs defies logic and facts, but I understand there's an election coming and the blame game seems to suit folks of your persuasion rather well. And now you want more infrastructure spending.....which will have to be borrowed from China or Japan, and repayed with interest. For every dollar spent, 42 cents must be borrowed. I'm glad you're not handling my investment portfolio !

I've got to give you credit: you have an impressive talent for sleight of hand, obfuscation and deception, but then of course everyone on here, even the new girl Debra, already knew that.

1. The US government does not borrow money from any foreign country. We sell our bonds on the open market and countries invest in us because we're such a safe bet. Btw where are those soaring interest rates you guys predicted? Score another point for Keynes.
2. You selectively presented a few boondoggles and yes such things can happen with crony capitalism and corrupt politicians. Both the private and public sectors have examples of wasteful and corrupt expenditures so we should...never build anything again? That's just insane.
3. The stimulus infrastructure has not been guilty of such boondoggles. It has been one of the most transparent government spending programs ever and with 100 million to spend and 30,000 projects there will be some waste but the vast majority has been effective and useful. Don't forget: the Stimulus was wildly successful given its small size, it provided a multiplier of X2 and created millions of jobs.
4. Your drooling comment about Donald Trump inadvertently made a good point. Why aren't the Donald Trumps of America out there building infrastructure quickly and efficiently? Why do so many construction workers remain unemployed? It's because with demand so low the private sector has no incentive to spend and invest now. The government is the only entity willing and able to spend in this liquidity trap recession we find ourselves in. And there's never going to be a better time to invest in infrastructure than right now because interest rates are so low, materials are cheap and thanks to high unemployment labor is cheap too, that we can pay far less now than we would at some point down the road. You tea-baggers are always moaning about the debt we're going to leave to "our children", well guess what, a broken infrastructure is another cost we could hand down to our kids. It has to be fixed eventually, so we can wait and punish our kids with it or we can do it now for cheap and boost the economy when it desperately needs it. This is exactly what Obama is trying to do and what the Tea Party is stopping him from doing. That's why I blame the Tea Party; because they are the ones to blame.

You see America as broken and bankrupt and unable to deal with our challenges; that we should just sit back and make it easier for the rich to extract the last bits of wealth from our once great middle class. I think America is still strong and still able to face its challenges if we have the courage to be honest about our problems and the conviction to follow through on rebuilding and revitalizing the middle class.

I'm glad you're not handling my country's economic policy!