Occupy Wall Street protest

[Prospero]

my grand father was a bare knuckle prize fighter in the depression and president of the waterside workers union

I'm he'd proud of his reactionary grandson's swerve to the far right

[giovanni_hotel]

Both sides of the same coin, although I feel the Occupy Wall Street protestors have a better focus on where the true problem lies.

Teabaggers see the problem as federal government overreach, entitlement and rampant deficit spending. Left wing protestors see the problem generated by those people who pay the lobbyists who write favorable legislation to benefit the financial sector and who place their former executives employed within the upper most echelons of our government: The Big Banks.

Who's most to blame?? The guy who offers the bribe, or the man who agrees to accept it???

Wall Street interests have a criminal amount of influence in the Federal government within all 3 branches, Goldman Sachs in particular.
Philosophically, most conservatives are anti-government so all roads to economic hell lead back to Capitol Hill and the WH. But I'm still trying to understand when this shift occurred in the GOP where their faith in capitalism as a social organizing principle was greater than their belief in a representative federal government??

Capitalism without regulation ALWAYS leads to economic collapse. Capitalism by its very nature is an insatiable beast that has to be contained through government and institutional regulation, or ultimately it will cannibalize itself.

The republicans IMO are making a bet the American people one more time will vote against their own interests in favor of improving the economic of the ruling class.
10 years of tax cuts for the wealthy and this country still bled jobs at a historic pace.

Yes Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac played a role in the recent economic crisis, but most of the blame belongs to those who KNEW they were selling toxic, subprime mortgage derivatives to investors ALL OVER THE WORLD.

You can't tell me the big investment banks didn't know that home prices wouldn't continue to increase indefinitely and had to know they would eventually fall, making derivative based securities worthless.
The investment banks IMO deliberately sold shit wrapped up in a pretty bowtie and when the scam fell apart, they KNEW the Treasury could be bullied to bail them out.

The Wall Street execs should be thankful these protests haven't turned violent, because eventually that violence will be directed towards someone 'else'.

Finally the people are WAKING UP to whom the real villains are in this financial crisis.
Occupying Wall Street is a no brainer.

[MdR Dave]

Fuck teabaggers. Only thing they did with Bush In office was keep his balls warm in their mouths.

[Bobby Domino]

Both sides of the same coin, although I feel the Occupy Wall Street protestors have a better focus on where the true problem lies.

Teabaggers see the problem as federal government overreach, entitlement and rampant deficit spending. Left wing protestors see the problem generated by those people who pay the lobbyists who write favorable legislation to benefit the financial sector and who place their former executives employed within the upper most echelons of our government: The Big Banks.

Finally the people are WAKING UP to whom the real villains are in this financial crisis.
Occupying Wall Street is a no brainer.

very well said

[BellaBellucci]

Both sides of the same coin, although I feel the Occupy Wall Street protestors have a better focus on where the true problem lies.

Teabaggers see the problem as federal government overreach, entitlement and rampant deficit spending. Left wing protestors see the problem generated by those people who pay the lobbyists who write favorable legislation to benefit the financial sector and who place their former executives employed within the upper most echelons of our government: The Big Banks.

They're both right. Unless of course you don't agree that our government is bought and paid for, which I know you do, because it is, so I'm not sure how you could deduce that one side was placing blame more appropriately than the other.

Ron Paul 2012.

~BB~

[russtafa]

I'm he'd proud of his reactionary grandson's swerve to the far right

first union president to vote National party in the history of the union and backed it up with his fists and he taught me to use my fists and fear no man.he died a well respected man in the union movement and has been a great influence in my life

[Prospero]

I assume The national party is somewhat to the right? (Since i have only a sketchy knowledge of Aussie politics)

[russtafa]

back then the National party was very hard core right wing and when he became union president it split the family down the middle.he had a huge fight with his brother which left his brother bloody and unconscious and we still don't speak with the other side of the family to this day

[Prospero]

"bloody and unconscious..." so you are a family who use fists rather than reason.

[russtafa]

if we have to we will.my cousin was a merc in Rhodesia,i was a bouncer,my brother was a bouncer,cousins.it's a great way of making people see reason lol