Occupy Wall Street protest

[Bobby Domino]

Time to pull a Natina

Never heard of Tim Wise (I can't imagine why ) but that dude is speaking the TRUTH. Wow!!!

[soul4real]

Yeah they do not want this guy talking to white ppl.. He is speaking FUCKING TRUTH. Yvonne and the likes who are compeltly ignorant closet racists, should really listen to this dude. and when i say closet racists, i refer to those, who aren't necessary racist, but refuse to acknowledge "white Privilege" that one step above racism.

[Bobby Domino]

Racism will end when aliens land on Earth. When that happens we aren't going to care who's white, black, Muslim, poor, gay, tall, short or who has a big cock; everyone will realize what's really important, the human race...

[Ben]

Well if that fat mess is involved.....he may be able to survive in the park through the winter with all the fat he's stored up.

Hey...I'm all for civil disobedience and protest, it's the cornerstone of a democratic society...until I see shills like Moore involved. It sorta squashes the organic nature out of it. He's the biggest capitalist I know , ( and good for him) yet the system he desires would leave him penniless. He's conflicted.
So all you sympathizers and participants....tell me in 50 words or less what this is all about? Spreadin' the wealth around a little more? The government's been sticking it in our ass for the 3 previous years, and the 33 before that. Why now?

I wouldn't refer to Michael Moore as a capitalist. Capitalism, loosely defined, would be: investing money to make money by those who have money.
Michael Moore isn't investing money. He merely works for a company. Like we all do. And is paid well because people go to see his movies. Nothing more, nothing less.
I mean, would one define Britney Spears as a capitalist? Or Sean Penn? Or Lindsay Lohan? Or Naomi Campbell? Or Noam Chomsky? Or the the ultra-left leaning author Paul Street -- as being capitalists? No, of course not. They work. And their books or movies or songs sell and they're paid accordingly.
We should bear in mind that we don't live in a capitalist society. Pure, genuine, authentic and real capitalism doesn't exist in America. Because the STATE plays a big role in the economy. A capitalist system requires and implores the state to have NO role. That's genuine capitalism.
Maybe we should try genuine capitalism. Who knows. But it has never been tried. And, I think, never will. Because no one believes in it.
Just like actual socialism has never been tried.
We throw these terms around without clarifying their actual meanings. Socialism does not mean state tyranny. It means: workers controlling the means of production. AND: capitalism, pure capitalism, means the STATE does not get involved, has absolutely no involvement.
What would happen to the economy if the state assumed no role? Well, it'd crash -- in about 5 minutes.
So, we don't live in a pure capitalist system. And we don't live in a socialist system. I mean, there are a slew of systems we could adopt. (Again, we could experiment with PURE capitalism. It may work. It may not. Who knows.) Or you could try, say, parecon. Or participatory economics.... This system has been formulated by the economists Michael Albert and Robin Hahnel.... And one of the key aspects of it is: you'd pay people according to how hard they work. I mean, why should a coal miner make less than Julia Roberts? And why should a construction worker make less than Nicole Kidman? And why should a surgeon make less than Brad Pitt?
So, you could devise an economic system based on how hard people work. There are some profound problems: what if people don't want to participate in this type of system? And should we reward people on how hard they work? Is that fair? So, there are a lot of problems to be worked out.

[onmyknees]

Yeah they do not want this guy talking to white ppl.. He is speaking FUCKING TRUTH. Yvonne and the likes who are compeltly ignorant closet racists, should really listen to this dude. and when i say closet racists, i refer to those, who aren't necessary racist, but refuse to acknowledge "white Privilege" that one step above racism.

Another black dude with a ball cap on sideways who'll drop the race card quicker than he'll drop his oversized trousers for a fat white chic. Yvonne said nothing racist whatsoever. If you think she's a bigot, than you obviously never seen real racism. For a tough guy, you're hyper sensitive. This dude Tim Wise speaks for Tim Wise, and apparently you...he doesn't speak for White People any more than you speak for black people.That's asinine. In fact, Natina's a big fan of his, so you and her have more in common than you might think. She'll be along any minute now so you two can commiserate about white folks. People can, and should express their beliefs and opinions in an open forum without fear of being slapped a racist because they say something you don't agree with. In your world most white folks are either overt racists, or closet racists. Do you interact with more white folks much? Stop with the over done cries of racism...you're starting to pollute too many threads with it.

[soul4real]

Its funny how quick you are to prejudge me. My avatar pic is a picture i took to be funny because my hair is long, and I never had braids before. (inside joke thing). Its crazy that your judging my behavior and using the race card.. I indeed did not, and actually am one who is an advocate against not using it. But I will stick by my guns, acknowledging that there is a white privileged is a "FORM" of racism. For the race card to be a non factor would be to suggest that there isn't any disadvantages as a whole to my race.. and I refuse to allow those type of narrow minded thinking pass as fact. Poll fact google it most white american's "Perceive" racism isnt still a problem, versus Black people who live thru it.

What would lead you to believe that I don't interact or talk to white "folks"? I'm part white, my grandmother is of German decent, and grew up in central Pennsylvania, dutch country eating potato bread, and soft pretzels. You know nothing of my background, education, or family history.. Your pre-judging me based of an avatar picture and some comments you obviously took out of context. Scroll thru i didnt use any race card, i brought up the civil rights protest and how they faced police resistance, and your friend Yvonne made that likening to using the "race card".

You're prejudice, by definition all that means is a pre judges. Every assumption you made about me was wrong... and yet your asking me to stop? Please if you or Yvonne have race issues, which obviously you do, don't turn them on someone who is just defending, the stigmatizing jokes, punchlines, and stereotypes you feed into.

You and your friend are the ones polluting my post about the "Occupy Wall street" post with race talk.

[robertlouis]

i have always hated smart arse rich that don't have to work and run around looking like shit and whinging [protesting] and sneering at working people. but i do think its so wrong that a man or woman cant spend what they receive in their pay in a life time and that has to stop .maybe if the government placed bans on these obscene salaries it might help

Russ, you're in serious danger of making an important connection here mate.

We'll have you singing the red flag in no time!

[soul4real]

Yup.. thats what this is realy about

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[russtafa]

Russ, you're in serious danger of making an important connection here mate.

We'll have you singing the red flag in no time!

fuck that for a joke i'm a nationalist i will never be marching to the socialist international

[robertlouis]

fuck that for a joke i'm a nationalist i will never be marching to the socialist international

You set 'em up pal, I'll knock 'em down. Maybe you could become a National Socialist, but that went a bit wrong the last time.....