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The TS Jessy Dubai Case
I will publish here the link to her funding campaign....
more info is coming soon... if u have her link publish it here in this thread
donations, email Jessy to: Jessydubai698 @ gmail.com
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The idea of this so called "feminist" lobby to try and wipe out prostitution by linking it constantly to human trafficking is as despicable and populist as Farage and Trump. As my 79 year old mother always says : "thank god for the working girls, there would be a lot more divorces and raping it they didn't step in to do the dirty work".
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chupapau
The idea of this so called "feminist" lobby to try and wipe out prostitution by linking it constantly to human trafficking is as despicable and populist as Farage and Trump. As my 79 year old mother always says : "thank god for the working girls, there would be a lot more divorces and raping it they didn't step in to do the dirty work".
In Colorado, prostitution is a misdemeanor. It becomes a felony if she is hiv+. She is facing multiple charges from an incident. It is kind of odd that she hasn't stated what charges because that information is public record. If you knew her real name, you can probably find out the charges.
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notdrunk
In Colorado, prostitution is a misdemeanor. It becomes a felony if she is hiv+. She is facing multiple charges from an incident. It is kind of odd that she hasn't stated what charges because that information is public record. If you knew her real name, you can probably find out the charges.
her Twitter indicates that the charges involve human trafficking. She was saying it was a case of guilt by association.
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dakota87
her Twitter indicates that the charges involve human trafficking. She was saying it was a case of guilt by association.
Right; however, she is facing multiple charges. What are the other charges? She is expecting people to donate money. It is kinda of foolish to donate without knowing what happened. What is her story and what is the police story?
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Does anyone have any more information about what happen? I am having some trouble piecing together the facts. Then again I have been up for over 48 hours with little sleep so maybe I just missed something in my ignorance.
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lifeisfiction
Does anyone have any more information about what happen? ........
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notdrunk
Right; however, she is facing multiple charges. What are the other charges? ....
Nikka dear, without wanting to start a whole trial of details here (god forbid) could you be Jessy's best defense lawyer and give us a resume of what the community should be dealing with?
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notdrunk
If you knew her real name, you can probably find out the charges.
Where would you look? For the charges that is?
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Ben in LA
Where would you look? For the charges that is?
Usually a court system's website. You can search for cases on those websites. Which also means you need to know where she is facing the charges. Since she said Colorado, the search is narrow.
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Usually "Human Trafficking", when in reference to prostitution, means "pimping". I have no idea what the charges are against her but I have seen escorts get busted and face these kind of charges if they were traveling with other girls. All it takes is one of the other girls say to the police "I gave so and so a cut because she drove me around" boom, human trafficking and guilt by association. Now I'm not saying this is the case with Jessy but it does happen.
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Police do have a tendency of throwing many charges at a person in the hopes that one will eventually stick and achieve a conviction. And convictions are like little gold stars in a police officer's and DA's personal records
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Gosh, does this have anything to do with the 420 Festival in Denver.
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notdrunk
Right; however, she is facing multiple charges. What are the other charges? She is expecting people to donate money. It is kinda of foolish to donate without knowing what happened. What is her story and what is the police story?
It would be ill-advised for Jessi to tell her story online, since that would be admissible in Court against her and therefore damaging to her defense. It might even be consifdered a 5th amendment waiver. Anyone else with knowledge of the specifics would be inviting an unwelcome inquiry from the prosecutor and, if they failed to cooperate, an obstruction of justice charge if they commented. While charges are pending, the less said by the defendant, the better
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It would be ill-advised for Jessi to tell her story online, since that would be admissible in Court against her and therefore damaging to her defense. It might even be consifdered a 5th amendment waiver. Anyone else with knowledge of the specifics would be inviting an unwelcome inquiry from the prosecutor and, if they failed to cooperate, an obstruction of justice charge if they commented. While charges are pending, the less said by the defendant, the better
She can say what the police charged her with
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It would be ill-advised for Jessi to tell her story online, since that would be admissible in Court against her and therefore damaging to her defense. It might even be consifdered a 5th amendment waiver. Anyone else with knowledge of the specifics would be inviting an unwelcome inquiry from the prosecutor and, if they failed to cooperate, an obstruction of justice charge if they commented. While charges are pending, the less said by the defendant, the better
But she hopes that people will donate over $30,000 to help her. It is really strange that she would start a donation campaign without explaining the case.
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I cant see how people are expected to donate $30,000 grand for someone who states she is arrested for multiple charges and claims innocence without explaining any of the actual offences she is being accused of doing.
Of all the reasons to donate for a cause, this isnt one of them, not now anyway. Sorry.
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Can I see a copy of your Tax Return before I donate. Its very important. And on another note, aren't you rich. This issue has been going on since last year for everyones info. Why now.
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tacocorp
this is it
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ElectricWoody
Can I see a copy of your Tax Return before I donate. Its very important. And on another note, aren't you rich. This issue has been going on since last year for everyones info. Why now.
Rich i doubt, but she does do well with content, and escorting i believe. From the numbers most of these LA girls throw around she should be able to make that in 1-2 months.
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she's arrested?? wow...:(
the john must have had a two incher, penis envy when he saw her...:)
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i have immense respect for Jessy's work and body, but can't she afford $30,000? she's been active as a top line porn star for a little while.
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holzz
i have immense respect for Jessy's work and body, but can't she afford $30,000? she's been active as a top line porn star for a little while.
I've wrote about this a bunch of times - in short, No. Transsexual models/pornstars don't usually have $30,000 sitting in the bank. Did she do 20 scenes last year? 30? 40? At $800-$1200 a scene, she's clearly not making enough to have that amount of money.
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CaptainPlanet
Rich i doubt, but she does do well with content, and escorting i believe. From the numbers most of these LA girls throw around she should be able to make that in 1-2 months.
Really? You must know more girls then I do, as I've never heard of that.
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CaptainPlanet
Rich i doubt, but she does do well with content, and escorting i believe. From the numbers most of these LA girls throw around she should be able to make that in 1-2 months.
$30,000 in 1 month?
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GroobySteven
I've wrote about this a bunch of times - in short, No. Transsexual models/pornstars don't usually have $30,000 sitting in the bank.
Thats kind of sad, no wonder so many quit early on. That kind of exposure for little pay is definitely not worth it.
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CaptainPlanet
Thats kind of sad, no wonder so many quit early on. That kind of exposure for little pay is definitely not worth it.
tell me a better job for a tranny and please donīt tell me prostitution
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CaptainPlanet
Thats kind of sad, no wonder so many quit early on. That kind of exposure for little pay is definitely not worth it.
I'm not sure if I know that many people with $30k sitting in the bank?
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ElectricWoody
Can I see a copy of your Tax Return before I donate. Its very important. And on another note, aren't you rich. This issue has been going on since last year for everyones info. Why now.
Now because now is when the thread was started here asking for money. Seems logical that people would want to know at least a little before donating anyhow - one idea of charity is that you know what you give is used responsibly, if you don't know what for sort of defeats the object.
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Nikka
tell me a better job for a tranny and please donīt tell me prostitution
There are jobs, but it requires a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life and the luck of the draw to not encounter bigoted assholes as you transition.
Sadly, as you point out, those two criteria are out of reach of many transsexuals.
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At the root of this case is the growth of the argument that nobody chooses to be a sex worker, and that they must therefore have a pimp, or be a victim of human trafficking. Across the USA states are adopting the 'Nordic Model' that makes it a criminal offence to buy and sell sex, with Federal money allocated that encourages law enforcement to take a 'pro-active' view of sex work as illegal work, from entrapment to summary arrest and harassment, including LE officers lying in court. Vice.com has produced a readable but depressing account of the 'sex work is human trafficking' issue in New York here-
http://www.vice.com/read/sex-workers...-0000550-v22n1
Without making a specific reference to the case of Jessy Dubai, there is a paradox here, because on the one hand Colorado scores highly as an LGBTQIAP-friendly state based on issues of human rights, employment, and incidences of hate crime, but is also a state where it is illegal to buy or sell sex, and where the aggressive prosecution of sex workers fits in with the 'sex work is human trafficking' argument.
In 2015 the US government allocated $44m to combat human trafficking in 16 locations across the USA; Colorado received $750,000 to provide 'Comprehensive Services for Victims of Human Trafficking Program', and the city of Denver received $599,495 for 'specialized services' meaning court and probation services for 'male and female juveniles with a focus on LGBTQ trafficking victims'.
The Department of Justice press release is here-
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attor...rafficking-and
-The list of locations and services allocated Federal funding is in this pdf-
http://ojp.gov/newsroom/pdfs/HT_Full_Chart_V.3.pdf
I don't believe anyone who contributes to Hung Angels would ever condone human trafficking of any kind, but surely it is the responsibility of law enforcement to prove that a person charged has indeed engaged in human trafficking. For those caught up in the legal process, as the vice.com article above shows, innocence does not prevent the accused suffering from tremendous emotional stress, while the costs of that legal process make the concept of 'Justice' appear hollow to those who are indeed innocent.
The law in Colorado-
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...s-colorado.htm
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We still don't know what the charges are, and until then it doesn't make sense arguing about something no one knows about. If you want to donate that is fine, I do think it is fair for people donating to know why. Also, prostitution generally doesn't carry a maximum 20 year sentence by itself.
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Wendy Summers
There are jobs, but it requires a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life and the luck of the draw to not encounter bigoted assholes as you transition.
Sadly, as you point out, those two criteria are out of reach of many transsexuals.
I'm not saying this to titillate, to provide fodder for sex flicks, or anything of the kind...but she should hope one of her bloodsucking atty's is looking for that thing she got and use it to her advantage.
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Wendy Summers
There are jobs, but it requires a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life and the luck of the draw to not encounter bigoted assholes as you transition.
Sadly, as you point out, those two criteria are out of reach of many transsexuals.
It makes me happy to say that I personally know, or have seen working, trans women who have "regular" jobs like anyone else outside of the sex industry: an attorney; a paralegal; a salesperson at Home Depot; a salesperson at IKEA; 2 who work at the makeup dept in Macy's; a hairdresser; a parking lot attendant; a maid at a hotel; and one who works at Starbucks. I live in Los Angeles and maybe there is more tolerance here but most of these jobs do not require a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life nor the luck of the draw. However, they do require consistency, punctuality, patience, the tolerance to work with others, and the desire to blend into the mainstream. I recognize that not all TS women may want those things.
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Lovecox
However, they do require consistency, punctuality, patience, the tolerance to work with others, and the desire to blend into the mainstream. I recognize that not all TS women may want those things.
So easy to be all elitist with too many of these kids getting thrown out by their families like so much garbage
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I don't know if there is a connection, but this article may relate to Jessi's case. Your federal tax dollars at work
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...ek-in-colorado
Note, most of the arrests mentioned in this article were for prostitution. Great use of FBI resources in the weeks leading to Orlando. Way to go, FBBi's.
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I don't know if there is a connection, but this article may relate to Jessi's case. Your federal tax dollars at work
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...ek-in-colorado
Note, most of the arrests mentioned in this article were for prostitution. Great use of FBI resources in the weeks leading to Orlando. Way to go, FBBi's.
Wait, you're pissed about FBI busting these child predators?
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Well everything about this is strange to say the very least. She says she's being targeted because she is a porn star and because she is trans. She says she went from being "fine" to over $75,000 in debt within 3 days. She said her man posted bail of 40k for her. No idea where the other 35k of debt came from. She says she is looking at 20 to life one time then later she says 25 to life later...maybe a simple mistake. She says she has a public defender and the case is going before a grand jury at some point.
I don't know what the hell the other charges could be but judge's don't set $40,000 bonds just because you are a ts porn star. I just googled $40,000 bond Colorado and the cases you get are bank robbery, drug distribution (meth, coke), child porn, child sexual abuse, and negligent child abuse resulting in death.