WORKING GIRLS AND WHY

A lot of girls are being blame for working and I feel like some or even most of the guys here don't understand us. Do u ever wonder how can such a large percentage of any group are in this lifestyle?

Most of us start at a very young age, either in our teens or 20s. This is the most cofusion stage in our transitioning to adult hood period. we're talking people in general..it's confusing and frustrating..so take that and add realizing u should be a woman but was born male...u then have to make life decision..should i transition or not.

pros:
1.i get to be who I am

cons:
1. risk loosing family, friends
2. what will this do to me.
3.will i be happy
4.how will i get the money to transition.
a.nose 5,000
b.breast 5,000,
c.forehead 7-12,000
d.hormones 800/3months
e.adams apple, chin, cheek bones, and last but not least silicones...

that's a lot of money in an attempt to look as much as a woman as possible.

5. how will i make this kind of money.

there are so many things running though their head and worry....trust me..staying in school and continue being ridicule is last on there head...so here u go...

6.he hopes to be find love...only to find that most guys don't want u as a gf. at least not unless u look like the girls 100,000.00 surgery later....if they even want that...most guys we meet want the fantasy of being with us tgirl and back to their world the next morning...after a while u feel use, a lone and cheated.

most girls choose to escort as a solution after so many doors had already slam in their face..some jump right to it cause they were smart enough to realize from their friends experience...yes some of us are very smart, pretty, and probably find a regular job somewhere enough to survive...if u're a genetic girl...our expenses are not the same...we start our beauty with a canvas while genetic girls are born with them....

for those who don't know....when u pay for the girls..u don't pay for sex...u pay for not having to be in their life after u cum.....consider a fair contribution for what we have to go through...i feel like i can continue..but the reasons goes on....

IF U DON'T THINK IT'S HARD...TAKE A FEW WEEKS AND WALK IN OUR SHOES...DRESS UP...SEE HOW YOUR FAMILY WILL REACT...YOUR WORK...HOW DIFFERENT THE WORLD IS WHEN WHEN JUST SHOPPING AT THE MARKET FOR FOOD...

Well said Yasmin well said

I know I have had several run-ins with friends of mine about transexuals. I tell them, "They are just people like you and I so get over it!" But alas they don't. why? I don't know? Maybe it is because there is a chemical lacking in their tiny brains that makes them judge people they don't understand without taking the time to learn of them. who knows?

All I know is you will have to do what you have too, to acheive your dreams. Just when choosing make sure you can live with the decisions you choose.

Again great post Yasmin.

I agree w Yasmine as to the reasons why girls work but let me ak you all this.Why do girls that have achieved the looks they want and the desired body they want after working for 10 plus years still do it? At what point does all the prostitution and sex for money just screw you up in the head? when does it stop? I have had 3 or 4 serious relationships with transsexuals( 1 year or more) and am around a lot of girls often.Doesnt it make most girls never be able to have a so called normal relationship even when they try? I give tGirls who transistion all the props in the world for there courage and strength because most of us probably couldnt do it. I say the working thing is okay as long as its a means to an end its just that for so so so many girls it never seems to end.

All good points. But the prices nowadays are downright crazy! 250 and up for an hour. How do you explain these costs?? Im glad I quit years ago.

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Originally Posted by Kramer

All good points. But the prices nowadays are downright crazy! 250 and up for an hour. How do you explain these costs?? Im glad I quit years ago.

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the same way they have to explain rent expenses
and poor housing, cost to living ( phone, electricity,etc)
as well as cost of medical treatment)
and having to do without the benefit of health/dental
insurances, 401K , etc.
And many don't have the luxury of shared assistance
with roomates, paid-well working boyfriends,
or other source of income.
and it's hard for a number of transexuals to work in
everyday society.

Compare your inconviences to theirs if you
care to do so.

if it's out of your budget and no chance for negotiation
you're just shit out of luck and have to move on to
the ones that will bargain and conviently suit your
financial needs.

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Originally Posted by shestar

I agree w Yasmine as to the reasons why girls work but let me ak you all this.Why do girls that have achieved the looks they want and the desired body they want after working for 10 plus years still do it? At what point does all the prostitution and sex for money just screw you up in the head? when does it stop? I have had 3 or 4 serious relationships with transsexuals( 1 year or more) and am around a lot of girls often.Doesnt it make most girls never be able to have a so called normal relationship even when they try? I give tGirls who transistion all the props in the world for there courage and strength because most of us probably couldnt do it. I say the working thing is okay as long as its a means to an end its just that for so so so many girls it never seems to end.

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You have some points here. I guess that once you crossed the Rubicon, it's hard to go back, and that's sad. That's probably kind of: WTF, i already did it, i've got nothing to lose. But also, some girls are probably really crazy, all they want is attention, thousands of dollars and a miracle that will never happen. I met such a girl once. All i wanted was a serious relationship with her but i was treated like a dog instead. I've been with many GG's and one TG and the only girl that i really fell in love with so long was that god damned TG, probably because she knew how to play with my feelings.. But she was very money hungry too.. Money was in the first place to her, me on the second.....or third. And despite the fact that i "donated" quite an amount to her, she was still doing crazy things to get more, behind my back. Sad.

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Originally Posted by Kramer

All good points. But the prices nowadays are downright crazy! 250 and up for an hour. How do you explain these costs?? Im glad I quit years ago.

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Would you like to sell your body, to sell YOU and your dignity for cheap money, if you were forced to do it? Damn, dude, it's not cows we are talking about, it's human beings. Each time they do it they are risking their lives. No money in the world can pay that. And when i read Yasmin's(hopefully honest) post and look at the pic of her i realise what a tragedy her life has to be.

I've got a 28 y/o beautiful single mother friend with a rare chronic disease that causes her acute pains sometimes. She's struggling with two jobs and trying to raise two kids. I shall tell her to start escorting since a: she's in need of A LOT OF money to pay living expenses b: since she's so busy all the time she doesn't have time to gloom herself that much so she can't get that much attention, satisfaction, affection from MANY MANY, A LOT OF, ALL men. she does have ONE nice bf who helps her to fix up things but not much financially though. They are just getting by. c: she grew up in housing project so her family don't have a penny to spare for her. her only brother is in prison. she can only hope that he leaves her alone. since she can't get support from her family she should start escorting. d: if she escorts, she can not only afford nicer places, better stuff, maybe even plastic surgeries, but also she can save enough money to send her kids to private schools even ivy league universities! ... Oh the good reasons go on and on and on. All single mothers, struggling actresses/actors, McDonal workers shall start escorting TODAY. Who hasn't got endless bills to pay, who doesn't want to sleep until 3:00 pm, who doesn't want plastic surgeries that make you look 10 years younger... Anybody who does not escort is just stupid.

I can see where you are coming from Yaz.. when I met my girl she was escorting and I had to deal with that for a while until I got her to quit! It was horrible and took a toll on her emotionally! It was extremely hard for me knowing that was how she was getting her money and that's what she was doing whenever I was gone. It fucked with her sexually too...made her not want to do it as much until she stopped! But if I were to meet you Yas, I wouldn't even want to have sex unless that was what you desired... I would simply want to talk to you and get to know what Yasmin Lee's world is like or anyother girl. I'm tired of guys looking at you and other girls as meat and sex tools for their own pleasures when they honestly wouldn't ever date you seriously! This is a vicious cycle... when will it end! But from a guy who loves a girl who went through what you're going through... it's hard for both sides!

Take care... and I hope you find that special happiness...who knows..it might be closer than you think!

I'm on my business phone...Tréo's are the shit...suggest everyone get one!

that's one of the best posts i've ever seen, it's all true, and people can't say it's wrong. if you're a TS and on less than average - average income, you're screwed and gotta do it. if your family doesn't like it, you got no one to turn to. so i guess im in the shit then. i don't wanna do escorting, i don't wanna appear on loads of websites (tho i nearly did thru desperation)... no wonder im always feeling down and think im fucked in the head

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Originally Posted by Chica

that's one of the best posts i've ever seen, it's all true, and people can't say it's wrong. if you're a TS and on less than average - average income, you're screwed and gotta do it. if your family doesn't like it, you got no one to turn to. so i guess im in the shit then. i don't wanna do escorting, i don't wanna appear on loads of websites (tho i nearly did thru desperation)... no wonder im always feeling down and think im fucked in the head

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if you look THE WORLD AROUND you - how many Ts every does this it's all about you isn't it - there are millions, no, billions, of people that are in worse conditions than you. humanhood is not just looking into you but also around you. nobody can get everything she wants. everybody learns to make compromises - i can't have this because of a,b,c...; i can have this but i have to do a,b,c ... to get it - it's about priotizing and learning what is realistic and what is not. if you want something that deparately you'll find a way to get it but don't expect it to be at no expenses. it's all part of life. i feel pain for all people suffering, you, myself, other ts, but come on, my family member is fighting terminal cancer now, there are kids in africa dying from starvation right at this moment...

Yasmin you are not only very goodlooking but very smart and realistic.
And you are absolutely right.
Most of the guys who go with a working girl do it for the sex, after the "deal" has been made they want to get the hell out of there.
They use the girls as an object.
Not all the guys but a lot.

What you didn't say and should be talked about is that some of the working girls have boyfriends. Ofcourse that is normal but what i consider not te be normal is that they still keep working when having this relation with this boyfriend. I understand the girl but not the boyfriend.
What is he? He cannot support his girlfriend? That makes him a pimp in my book.
Maybe i am wrong.
I really like to know what Allanah has to say about that. After all she has a boyfriend...

Not going to try to discredit Yasmin here, but I'm going to just hang back for a minute too.

No dude...it doesn't make the boyfriend a pimp! Sometimes it's all about the situation...unless the boyfriend is "well-paid"...he probably can't cater to a lot of the expenses that his girl may have/want. And in the beginning of a relationship I don't think the boyfriend is just going to up and start paying all her bills and shit. It's hard knowing your girlfriend use to sell herself for sex whether not she's still doing it or not, it WILL fuck with you from time to time, but if there is love you can always work through that! If a girls boyfriend could pay all her shit do you think she would still sell herself? Maybe if she want her own money or more money...but I think mostly not. If it's someone she really cares about hurting I think she would stop if he wants her to. It's all about the situation though my dude! Like I said it's not easy for either side of the relationship!

So are you saying prostitution is the last resort you girls can count on to make money even if you have a high education?

legend, well here i was one day predicted high grades, bam, my mum passes away with cancer, i took 3 months off school, come back 2 days to revise EVERY subject, and i failed everything. i've heard others with good grades, and themselves being forced into prostitution because of large debts... £17,000 is the average student debt... thats like $35,000... may not seem like a lot, but living in the UK is a bit more expensive than the rest of the world

girlyg, do you realise how hard it is for people less priveleged than others to actually get even £1000 in their bank? i was ecstatic with £100, and i was reading the other day in the paper for a full transition it's more like £30,000... im almost 20, struggling for a job, an unsupportive family, a town hall that would prefer to give homes to druggies or alcoholics, and you say people are worse off? well i always got told take care of number 1, and that's me, if i had the money to help, i would... but i dont have the money to help myself right now

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girlyg, do you realise how hard it is for people less priveleged than others to actually get even £1000 in their bank? i was ecstatic with £100, and i was reading the other day in the paper for a full transition it's more like £30,000... im almost 20, struggling for a job, an unsupportive family, a town hall that would prefer to give homes to druggies or alcoholics, and you say people are worse off? well i always got told take care of number 1, and that's me, if i had the money to help, i would... but i dont have the money to help myself right now

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where i'm from, my parents worked for 15 to 18 hours a day 6 days a week in the field and a factory to earn less than $100 a month to support a 6 person family. and that's considered a rather decent living compared to others in the rural areas. meantime in the cities, millionaires squander away money in every way they can. still yet all my siblings went to colleges because we worked hard and earned scholarships and have good jobs now. circumstances, environments, "my transistion", "i'm less previliged"... you think i haven't heard enough excuses witnessing and going through survival games in life? you want to win, stop making excuses and start working harder!! billions of people are worse off than you if you look around the whole world with a population of nearly 6 billions! prositution is hardly a glorious option but if it gets what you want most, kudo to you. just don't whine like a victim of circumstances, or wear it on your nose as if it were the most glorious choice you can make in your life.

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I've got a 28 y/o beautiful single mother friend with a rare chronic disease that causes her acute pains sometimes. She's struggling with two jobs and trying to raise two kids. I shall tell her to start escorting since a: she's in need of A LOT OF money to pay living expenses b: since she's so busy all the time she doesn't have time to gloom herself that much so she can't get that much attention, satisfaction, affection from MANY MANY, A LOT OF, ALL men. she does have ONE nice bf who helps her to fix up things but not much financially though. They are just getting by. c: she grew up in housing project so her family don't have a penny to spare for her. her only brother is in prison. she can only hope that he leaves her alone. since she can't get support from her family she should start escorting. d: if she escorts, she can not only afford nicer places, better stuff, maybe even plastic surgeries, but also she can save enough money to send her kids to private schools even ivy league universities! ... Oh the good reasons go on and on and on. All single mothers, struggling actresses/actors, McDonal workers shall start escorting TODAY. Who hasn't got endless bills to pay, who doesn't want to sleep until 3:00 pm, who doesn't want plastic surgeries that make you look 10 years younger... Anybody who does not escort is just stupid.

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I tottaly agree and co-sign.
And i am going to expand it.

Why shouldnt men escort as well?

I have a phd in engineering, i work 12 hours a day minimum and i earn just as much money as i need to live in comfort.
I will explain comfort:
I live in Athens - Greece
I own a house, a 1600 cc car, and i am capable of travelling twice a year.
I dont go out really often because i have no time/energy.
I dont have priceless art paintings at home, but have a full refrigirator.
Finaly, i can spoil myself bying little toys such as a new camera or a new laptop and thats it.
Keep in mind that i work as a highly educated excecutive, having a very nice job for the country standards.

And i just live in comfort. Cant save, cant think of the future, cant really leave things behind for my family.
And i studied for several years, worked various jobs to support my studies, and climbed on the professional scale step by step.
Unfair?

So, it would be very easy for me to say
"oh, come on, why dont i keep company to rich ladies for 200 € per hour"
I am 34, very good looking and really well endowed.

I chose to work my ass of, creating a career, and settle down to what i have and not to what i could have.

I really cant give no alliby to anyone that escorts because of needs.
Everyone has needs.
Simply, some of us fullfil our needs and make a living the hard way.
On the other hand, some dont

Thats all i have to say.

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Not going to try to discredit Yasmin here, but I'm going to just hang back for a minute too.

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I think I'm going to adopt this as my general standpoint also.

I'm still brainwerking the analogous comparison of a McDonald's worker (Who may or may not be discriminated against for their gender) and a TS (Who is more than likely to be discriminated against for their gender - Or lack thereof in some views - and their sexuality as well).

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I'm still brainwerking the analogous comparison of a McDonald's worker (Who may or may not be discriminated against for their gender) and a TS (Who is more than likely to be discriminated against for their gender - Or lack thereof in some views - and their sexuality as well).

:popcorn

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Current American labor laws prohibit employers from discriminating against employees on the basis of their sexual orientations but do not protect employees who are maybe, hmmm..., a little bit slow... but... not enough to claim disabilities... or don't speak good enough english... or are a little bit old and infirm but not enough to claim disabilities... or too young and unstable... :oops: :oops: :oops: Oops i said it... no offense anybody this is stereotyping.

People tend to jude base on personal experiences and their idea of who and what we represend. We should know that u can judge a group base on what they do and how they are as a whole, but where individuality and characteristic comes in, it evolve into something very complex.

there are posts of world hunger and suffering and that we should do better, know better, work harder while on our knees with the wrath of society. we can not compare what we are going through to other misfortunes in the world. This is a war of emotional surviving struggle and matters of the heart.
(in regards to this subject of suffering..all guys that had seen and supported me...sleep well...some of your money did not just go to my shoes, clothes, bags or surgery. we, together been donating a lot toward a peace temple in cambodia as well as a school to educate a couple of the local villages...)

i'm writing this now at an airport after a night of crying myself to sleep. I met a man. Something about him and the way he stare into my eyes. It touch my soul. His heart, his tender touch, his gentle eyes...So I let my guard down and fell for him. I would stop this industry to be with him and I told him. Not because i think that it's wrong, but rather i understand how he feels about it and what i wouldn't do for the person i love. I was gonna look for a job when i get home. I already paid and sign up for school. we're gonna work hard a couple years, save up some money and he was gonna build me a hut in the east asia somewhere...

lots of luck to you Yasmin. I'm glad something positive happened to you on your trip to New York. drop into HA every so often and let us know how you're doing.

I don't see escorting as a good option either but some REALLY don't have very many choices! Just because their are laws that protect against descrimination doesn't mean companies won't still do it and get away with it! My girl works a pretty good job on top of me giving her money(I fortunately have a lot) and even though she has friends and people who support and understand her at work, her supervisors and bosses hate on her every chance they get. They make her use a "special" restroom cause she not a woman so they don't want her in there and she's not a man and refuses to use the men's restroom she give a "special" one on the "other" side of the company, plus the pay CLOSE attention to everything she does that's not up to company standards while other get leeway! She would have quit a long time ago if it wasn't for my support, and that's at mostly every "good" job she's had! So can you blame them for wanting to escort? Plus YOU ARE THE GUYS WHO SUPPORT THIS "AWFUL" LINE OF WORK!! How many times on this forum have guys asked how much Yasmin or other girls charge per hour? How many times have you seen them say they'd pay anything to get fucked by them or suck them til they'd cum in their mouth? Then those are the same who don't like what they do for a living! Why wouldn't she want to make that 2g's off of you for a couple of hours of fullfilling "your fantasy"! What are you going to do..sweep her off of her feet and take her home to meet moms...NO! You all can force feed that world hunger shit down their throats all you want...it's not going to make their strugle any better! Everyone has their own strugle..my black people are still tryna rise to the top... so we sell drugs and hustle in these ghetto ass streets!

Good luck Yasmin and everybody else who's struggling to make a better life for yourself!

I wish people could see beyond what we look like and what we were and so on and see how strong of a person it takes to be a transsexual! It is such a difficult thing to find that you are in the wrong body and mislabeled for being what you feel inside. I feel in so many ways noone can ever understand what it is to be us. To suffer everyday for just being who you are. People can say alot about people in porn or people who escort and guess what even the most normal t-girls with 9-5 jobs still have stuff said about them. But as i told Yasmine in very serious conversation yesterday, 95.9% of the world people are screwed-up and they are the ones that are tring to tell you how to run your life. I decided along time ago that only have one person in this world i can count on and i see her in the mirror everyday. Love will come and go, looks will come and go as well, but you will still have to deal with yourself in the end.

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Current American labor laws prohibit employers from discriminating against employees on the basis of their sexual orientations...

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Yet it does not stop them from doing so. One of the most blatant cases was Cracker Barrell, which had its anti-gay hiring policy clearly stated in writing. The fines and lawsuits didn't do shit and it went as high as the annual meeting where several proxy wars ensued.

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Here's something I read the other day, that I thought was pretty awesome.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...5-be00f2bbe084

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That's all very Buddhist. Apart from the organized collective behaviors of wasting tremendous wealth throughout history to build giant temples, Buddha statues covered in gold and gems while people are dying on the streets, Buddhism is the most tolerate, least evil regilion of all. That's why the Thais are more relaxed towards Ladyboys. "You a man but want to be a woman? Poor thing. It's not the fault of 'the current' you. You must have done something wrong in your past life. Be nice this life and you won't be a ladyboy next life. Good luck. Poor thing..." That's the attitude. Now we are talking! Now let's all go to Thailand and party with happy ladyboys who want to be nice so that they won't be born into the wrong bodies next time... By the way, there aren't not so much social stigma associated with prositution either - it support a huge pillar of the country's economy any how. Respect for the whores for bringing in so much money for the family and the country.

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Current American labor laws prohibit employers from discriminating against employees on the basis of their sexual orientations...

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Yet it does not stop them from doing so. One of the most blatant cases was Cracker Barrell, which had its anti-gay hiring policy clearly stated in writing. The fines and lawsuits didn't do shit and it went as high as the annual meeting where several proxy wars ensued.

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And there is no law to protect the stereotypical McDonald workers. "Juan you are too slow! You are fired right now!" And Juan can't do nothing about it. We are talking about putting things in perspective here; we are not talking about that the world is so unfair, there are laws that people won't abide by - it's a given that the world is screwed up like this. Some people fight and gain their rights eventually, like the gay people; some people choose to whine and go escorting, like the transsexuals.

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By the way, there aren't not so much social stigma associated with prositution either - it support a huge pillar of the country's economy any how. Respect for the whores for bringing in so much money for the family and the country.

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In this country, our laws turn the world's oldest profession into an ineffective witch-hunt. Yet, ironically, sanctimonious people socially whore themselves shamelessly all the time. ;)

Imagine what a happier place the world would be if we could all just get laid properly? Beautiful women are high maintainence... Is this something new?! Well, big newsflash; beautiful TS's are even MORE SO!

It's the world's backwards attitudes and closeted sexual hangups that make prosititution a potentially seedy industry.

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Co-sign!
My proposal: All global citizens between the ages of 18 and 81 regardless races, sexes or religion beliefs shall be at completely free will to participate in prositution or become a prositution provider. Any discriminative behaviors against prositution will be prosecuted by law. All prositution providers shall be qualified and licensed by international prositution committee following set global standards. Qualifications for prositution providers are as follows:
a: complete 3 months course of reproductive system anatomy, hygiene, and contagious diseases courses.
b: pass the "prositution STD physical exam" that is held once every 3 months.
c: prositution industry shall comply to all WTO free trade treaties and terms. price fixing, exploitation, or "dumping", shall be subject to international investigations and country or region involved shall be economically politically sanctioned accordingly.
d: providers can be incorporated and manager-managed, but pimping behavior is strictly prohibited and will be prosecuted by law.
e: international prostitution committee holds global fairs and events to promote healthy sex and better sex. it is the industrys mission to do so.
f:...

anybody has any additions? i will be able to come up with more after my nap :wink:

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Current American labor laws prohibit employers from discriminating against employees on the basis of their sexual orientations...

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Yet it does not stop them from doing so. One of the most blatant cases was Cracker Barrell, which had its anti-gay hiring policy clearly stated in writing. The fines and lawsuits didn't do shit and it went as high as the annual meeting where several proxy wars ensued.

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And there is no law to protect the stereotypical McDonald workers. "Juan you are too slow! You are fired right now!" And Juan can't do nothing about it. We are talking about putting things in perspective here; we are not talking about that the world is so unfair, there are laws that people won't abide by - it's a given that the world is screwed up like this. Some people fight and gain their rights eventually, like the gay people; some people choose to whine and go escorting, like the transsexuals.

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What a lame blanket statement that is. You're talking out of your ass. There are far more gay cruisers in parks and rest stops than there are TS's. And THAT is the low-end side of prostitution; the type of solicitations that attract drugs and violence. But what two consenting adults agree to, privately, is no one's goddamn business.

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You are talking out of your ASS. Percentage wise, i have yet to find any one of my gay acquantances that has done any escorting while most of trannies that i eihter personally know or know of from my social network has done some kind of prositution. Honey it's a fact that was repeately mentioned here by other members as well that a disproportionally large percetage of transsexual community involves in prositution. Hey if it's between two consenting adults, I didn't say it's not good. It gets you what you want most, kudo to you - I'm repeating what I said here. I have nothing against it. But don't whine "oh I'm a victim of cirsumstances", or show it off as if it were the most glorious choice you can make in your life either. There is really more glorious things in life than that. If you love it, good for you. If you don't like it, quit it!

Unless the whole united states is converted to Thai Buddhism, large percentage of prositution in any particular demographic group only causes sense of degradation and more social stigma towards that group. Nothing wrong with prositution in my opinion - let me repeat it, but if you want to fight for respect and general improvement of your social-economical status in this country, or any country other than a few, prositution is hardly hardly the way to go. That's what I am saying here. In a perfect world, everybody should be able to be with a prositute, or be a prositute, freely, but under proper health and hygiene regulations! I wonder how the market demand/supply mechanism will affect the prices in that case though :wink:

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A lot of girls are being blame for working and I feel like some or even most of the guys here don't understand us. Do u ever wonder how can such a large percentage of any group are in this lifestyle?

Most of us start at a very young age, either in our teens or 20s. This is the most cofusion stage in our transitioning to adult hood period. we're talking people in general..it's confusing and frustrating..so take that and add realizing u should be a woman but was born male...u then have to make life decision..should i transition or not.

pros:
1.i get to be who I am

cons:
1. risk loosing family, friends
2. what will this do to me.
3.will i be happy
4.how will i get the money to transition.
a.nose 5,000
b.breast 5,000,
c.forehead 7-12,000
d.hormones 800/3months
e.adams apple, chin, cheek bones, and last but not least silicones...

that's a lot of money in an attempt to look as much as a woman as possible.

5. how will i make this kind of money.

there are so many things running though their head and worry....trust me..staying in school and continue being ridicule is last on there head...so here u go...

6.he hopes to be find love...only to find that most guys don't want u as a gf. at least not unless u look like the girls 100,000.00 surgery later....if they even want that...most guys we meet want the fantasy of being with us tgirl and back to their world the next morning...after a while u feel use, a lone and cheated.

most girls choose to escort as a solution after so many doors had already slam in their face..some jump right to it cause they were smart enough to realize from their friends experience...yes some of us are very smart, pretty, and probably find a regular job somewhere enough to survive...if u're a genetic girl...our expenses are not the same...we start our beauty with a canvas while genetic girls are born with them....

for those who don't know....when u pay for the girls..u don't pay for sex...u pay for not having to be in their life after u cum.....consider a fair contribution for what we have to go through...i feel like i can continue..but the reasons goes on....

IF U DON'T THINK IT'S HARD...TAKE A FEW WEEKS AND WALK IN OUR SHOES...DRESS UP...SEE HOW YOUR FAMILY WILL REACT...YOUR WORK...HOW DIFFERENT THE WORLD IS WHEN WHEN JUST SHOPPING AT THE MARKET FOR FOOD...

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I know it must be hard soemtimes for you. But You are looking too sexy here I wish I could have some of that ass.

It's a drag for the girls. Living in Los Angeles and growing up in and around the Hollywood, West Hollywood area I've had friends and girlfriends from adolescecence to adult life who have wrestled with the same kind of thing. I started this reply thinking I would write a big long thing about my observations on the subject and shit, but I'm not going to. They have a lot to contend with and the decisions that they have to make are enormous. All my respect to you girls.

Real smooth SDman...

Better put that helmet back on bud..oh and uhh....your drooling again.....


If your going to escort fine, most of us are cool with that...

But PLEASE dont whine, bitch, cry and complain about the fucked up shit escorting has done to you or to your life or to someone elses life...

You knew the risks, yet you still bit that apple........

girlyg...first of all hun...don't talk to me of the culture i live for almost 30 years and tell me how it is base on what people told u. Secondly, transsexualism is a whole new level of difficulty..trust me, most tgirls live that life before transittioning. People tend to be more ok with gays because they are normaly in their life one way or another. They understand them more then they do us. Plus, being gay is a lot easier hun. They don't have to go through the transsitioning like we do. That hormones can physically change our appearance in a matter of days..imagine what's it's doing to our inside...mentality, emotions...etc...stop trying to make a point so people think wow he really can put words together and listen...these are your girls...listen with your heart and hear their cries. after all, who can better explain us then us...

well ill tell you a little story about myself
i dont often let soo much info out about myself but i will
i graduated one of if not the top performing arts school in nyc did about 8 feature films and numerous commercials in my youth and i knew at a young age that i was transgendered and so i went in another direction had to sacrfice my lifes dream to perform be on the stage pratice a craft i was so well at i had to wave goodbye to it,it hurts me till this day cause there are NOT any working transsexual actors in this country period so i went on to something creative i became a haircolorist wich if you are good at it in nyc you can make 2,000 a week easy well i was good at it and i was making that amount of moneywhen i told my boss i wanted to transition they were all gay and lesbian mind you the following day i was met with all my tools in a black garbage bag and told they had no room for me so here i was crushed twice for just being me and trying to do the right thing
so alot of you dont know what goes on unless you are a WOMAN of transsexual experience
god bless all my sisters
cause ive seen it all

Dina Marie Delicious

Hmmmm......I knew a post like this was gonna come up sooner or later. I dont wanna say too much and hurt anyones feeling or put them in some suicidal state of mind, but do you ever really think about how your going around selling your body? That's half the reason guys dont want most TS GF. "Legally" i can't testify to someone's state-of-mind, but how often are you in that frame of mind where you dont know who you really are and if you'll be satisfied after you take this fork in the road etc, etc...How can I be with someone who isnt even sure of who they are themselves. How can I respect someone who doesnt respect themselves, and truth is respect isnt given...it's earned and what's respectable about what you do? How many people do you have to "work" with to achieve the goal your going for? Taking all that into account, it's a big deal for a lot of guys therefore making you a cheap thrill/one-night-stand/floosey. Not calling you those names, just giving you a certain perspective. I'm not sayin I'm on that side of the fence and bashing you before I get a bunch of negative comments, but I'm giving you a truthful response and not hopping on the bandwagon to get in good with you.

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I know it must be hard soemtimes for you. But You are looking too sexy here I wish I could have some of that ass.

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ROFLMAO @ SDman and Blackadder. Wow....lol. The convo was all deep and you tryin to get some ass out the blue....Hope you didnt think you were gonna pull her with that line. lol

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Hmmmm......I knew a post like this was gonna come up sooner or later. I dont wanna say too much and hurt anyones feeling or put them in some suicidal state of mind, but do you ever really think about how your going around selling your body? That's half the reason guys dont want most TS GF. "Legally" i can't testify to someone's state-of-mind, but how often are you in that frame of mind where you dont know who you really are and if you'll be satisfied after you take this fork in the road etc, etc...How can I be with someone who isnt even sure of who they are themselves. How can I respect someone who doesnt respect themselves, and truth is respect isnt given...it's earned and what's respectable about what you do? How many people do you have to "work" with to achieve the goal your going for? Taking all that into account, it's a big deal for a lot of guys therefore making you a cheap thrill/one-night-stand/floosey. Not calling you those names, just giving you a certain perspective. I'm not sayin I'm on that side of the fence and bashing you before I get a bunch of negative comments, but I'm giving you a truthful response and not hopping on the bandwagon to get in good with you.

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Originally Posted by werwt22

Hmmmm......I knew a post like this was gonna come up sooner or later. I dont wanna say too much and hurt anyones feeling or put them in some suicidal state of mind, but do you ever really think about how your going around selling your body? That's half the reason guys dont want most TS GF. "Legally" i can't testify to someone's state-of-mind, but how often are you in that frame of mind where you dont know who you really are and if you'll be satisfied after you take this fork in the road etc, etc...How can I be with someone who isnt even sure of who they are themselves. How can I respect someone who doesnt respect themselves, and truth is respect isnt given...it's earned and what's respectable about what you do? How many people do you have to "work" with to achieve the goal your going for? Taking all that into account, it's a big deal for a lot of guys therefore making you a cheap thrill/one-night-stand/floosey. Not calling you those names, just giving you a certain perspective. I'm not sayin I'm on that side of the fence and bashing you before I get a bunch of negative comments, but I'm giving you a truthful response and not hopping on the bandwagon to get in good with you.

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The truth hurts doesn't it?
Insist upon your being under previliged, and physically unique - hence, therefore, as the only possible consequence of being that physically unique - have all the right to be more mentally messed up... insist upon all your very special rights to be miserable, and you are - MISERABLE.
Poor thing - that's all I can say. I'll give you all the sympathy, attention, telling you you deserve to be a prositute, you absolutely have more reasons than anybody else to be a prositute, and you are - A PROSITUTE (not that I don't think prositutes deserve any respect I'm just being realistic - how much respect does our society pay to a prositute?).
What if people tell you otherwise from the very beginning? What if people tell you, "You are physically unique, but you are as capable as anybody else to achieve anything you want!" "Hormones do mess it up for you, people are always going to be prejudiced, but you are what you do not what people think?" ...