so glad isn't me...anymore

I've been lurkng on here for a while to see what chasers actually talk about with each other under the cloak of internet anonymity. I escorted for a short while and hated it. It irreversibly colored my views on men. Im not downing escorting(but the stakes are higher for trans women than cis women), but I was just not emotionally cut out for the business and it messed with me psychologically, so the first opprotunity i got(a minimum wage hostessing job) I was out and never looked back...But i see nothing has changed in terms of respect for trans women, but I can't even be upset because now ive come to realize that trans women in depressed and disparaging emotional states due to chasers and the nature of the biz, are exactly where they want to be. You cant cry about these men not respecting you and taking you on real dates and meeting friends and family of his when you defile,denigrate, and disrespect your bodies. Trans women in ancient times held positions as priestesses, shamans, medicine women, healers....were even worshipped as goddesses. It was from me discovering these things that i was able to identify a new frame of reference for myself. I consider myyelf a goddess in human form and with that knowledge of self i NEVER again let a man
disrespect/ojectify/fetishize me. So i guess what im saying to the girls is most of this stuff can be stopped by you, through the choices you make and the men you choose to give your time to.My husband is an incredible man and the love he shows is amazing. As an ex prostie i never imagined finding such a thing... i mean, he gave me a sense of family. I m not even as close wih my own bio family as i am with his. With his mother, for zhe first time, i got the sense of what os actually like to be caed for as someone's DAUGHTER! And all this before the age of thirty. I thought the biz was going to swallow me up into a vortex of bitnerness that wozld be inescapable. Thought i was destined to fake ass movie dates INSIDE...AT MY HOUSE(or theirs) with abismal chasers/trade/dates whose word was never worth a damn. I am happy now and want to share t because this is what i want for EVERY trans woman.Seeing trans women in healthy, mutually fulfilling relationships in lage numbers is what society needs to inspire change. My oly reason for creating an account here was to spread this message. You shall hear no more of me after this. But ladies, please stay hopeful and motivated and respect your bodeies. You too deserve what i have.

Hey, who wants to fuck a goddes and experience magic, come over! ;>

Glad to know that you hav finally found peace and fulfilment. Because you have, haven't you, grl?

You will too one day, dear.

much respect

Thank you for sharing your inspirational experience and epiphany. I don't know why your post got so many dislikes. Its very honest and refreshing.
I'm glad that you got out and that you are happy.
But don't be too hard on the chasers. Social stigma effects the chaser as much as the tgirl. I'm sure there were some guys who really wanted to be with you but they just didn't have the courage that your husband has. They may get there one day.

I know the dislikes are from the men. The cis white males who control this industry have a vested interest n keeping us in bondage.... If a large percent of girls went into mainstream wrk situations they would be forced o respect trans woman and change their views on them. A good chunk of men simply DO NOT want to do this. There is nothing wrong with a cis male's sexual desire for trans women, but as of now there is no balance. The only point of reference MOST(not all) cis men have for trans women is pornography and escorts. They objectify cis women as well, but they also understand that those cis women are their mothers, sisters, cousins, wives, aunts, old school teacher, boss, cashier at einn dixie or what have you. The coin is flipped for cis woman because there is that positive balance. Trans women dont have that.... yet. And. I know this is a porn forum, bt please dont kick me out. I only have the purest of intentions. Some girls may be happy with current situation, but I knw for a FACT many are not. Those are the ones I care to reach.

Like i stated before, i know this is a porn forum and not a place for cerebral discissions... bit. Please note that a lot of "admirers" actually vote against Human Rights Ordinances in heir respective cities that would give trans women protection in employment and housing. I have actually witnessed tricks and clients who are effing city council commissionets sit up in city council meeting and sander and defame trans women. It baffled me and the only conclusion i was left to draw was that they must keep us accessable as prostitutes, hence the legal oppression.

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I wholly respect your opinion and understand it comes from your personal experiences and observations. I'm sad that you've grouped ALL us men into the same basket. I wish you nothing but happiness.

@Bluesoul-Lol. I know... that wasnt entirely truthful

I consider myself a trans admirer and friend, and with this come alot of friendships and some relationships with transsexual females.

What I found to be self destructive and downright negative in many local girls was the almost complete lack of any regard towards men, and each other.

More important to them is:
Escorting, selling their ass, instead of working a minimum wage or higher job.
I talked about this with a couple of girls, and their response was , I can get 3 clients in one day and make more than what I would on minimum wage.

they want their louboutins , chanel, D and G and high end things and $200 dresses over hard work and learning how to save and get an education.

I would see these same girls, partying at the local gay/trans clubs, wednesday night through sunday night, paying up to $300 a night for shots for all their "friends" and then struggling to make ends meet to pay the rent.

And of course, that means selling their ass again. risking the disease, anti-trans violence, thefts and beatings as well as arrest.

All that for Louboutins?

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Well they arent really doing much to dispute those ideas. Girls everywhere year in and year out have the same complaint. Are we going to throw the blame back and forth or come up with solutions. I would say the girls for the most part have done what they can and have just resigned themselves to their "fate". What about the men who claim to "love" them so? Surely a type woman who is supposedly loved and desired so much, as evidenced by the large number of "admirers" on a site such as this, should have those said admirers PUBLICLY outraged and speaking vehemently about the indignaties she faces? Those are the actions that I understand TRUE love and admiration inspires. Am i wrong, sir?

I am glad you found a place you feel comfortable. Good luck and hope to see your posts more often.

Congratulations and glad to know you're taking steps on your right path.

I agree wholeheartedly that many TS aren't cut out for the biz and forcing themselves to survive in it erodes them psychologically/emotionally.

It's the same thing in the CIS porn game too.

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I consider myself a trans admirer and friend, and with this come alot of friendships and some relationships with transsexual females.

What I found to be self destructive and downright negative in many local girls was the almost complete lack of any regard towards men, and each other.

More important to them is:
Escorting, selling their ass, instead of working a minimum wage or higher job.
I talked about this with a couple of girls, and their response was , I can get 3 clients in one day and make more than what I would on minimum wage.

they want their louboutins , chanel, D and G and high end things and $200 dresses over hard work and learning how to save and get an education.

I would see these same girls, partying at the local gay/trans clubs, wednesday night through sunday night, paying up to $300 a night for shots for all their "friends" and then struggling to make ends meet to pay the rent.

And of course, that means selling their ass again. risking the disease, anti-trans violence, thefts and beatings as well as arrest.

All that for Louboutins?

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it definitely goes both ways... The materialism is a way of coping and compensating. Ive engaged in the same behavior before. There is a lot of pressure put on trans girls(by men... and even cis women in society) to OUT DO a cis woman in ways that a cis woman can't even realistically achieve. So you have the expensive clothes and shoes... but who ultimately fuels that fire?

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There is a lot of pressure put on trans girls(by men... and even cis women in society) to OUT DO a cis woman in ways that a cis woman can't even realistically achieve.

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how do they do this? and how can someone who wasn't born female hope to out do a person that was? are you sure this isn't your own perception?

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it definitely goes both ways... The materialism is a way of coping and compensating. Ive engaged in the same behavior before. There is a lot of pressure put on trans girls(by men... and even cis women in society) to OUT DO a cis woman in ways that a cis woman can't even realistically achieve. So you have the expensive clothes and shoes... but who ultimately fuels that fire?

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I think it's pressure put on by trans girls ON EACH OTHER and by their admiration for everything "glamourous and fierce" .

all my cis female friends could care less about louboutins and getting the most expensive shit. They look good with $50 heels , and $60 dresses. and so do trans girls. But oh lord, god forbid they have to wear $50 heels..

It's just the trans girls that wanna keep up with the RICH cis women that are in tabloids, "omg i must have thoseee heels".

they're out of touch with reality in that case. They think like is a non stop party, and the most expensive glitzy stuff, and when guys refuse to buy them the expensive stuff, they throw them to the curb as if they're not worthy. They do indeed choose Louboutins over love and respect.

so , yes it goes both ways

I can not agree. I recently had a dispute at school with the most rachet, ghetto , raggediest of cis females. Dnt even remember how it started, but as soon as it was known i was trans she said " Bitch how you supposed to be a muthafuckin transgenduh? You supposed to look better than a "REAL" wuhman!" So yes there is this silly expectation from society that transsexual women much be drop dead gorgeous where as cis women may look like "who done it and why". You see it with men who ry and pursue the most beautiful trans women(only for sex of course) but the cis woman they parade around is homely... and im being generos with that word. Also
Not to be rude but I feel that men are over stepping their boundaries by trying to question or doubt what im telling you is MY LIVED EXPERIENCE as a trans woman. Just sit and listen. I cant tell u what it is to be a cis man, so how can you question my experiences. And like it or not most of you are the perpetrators so how doubly offensive and insensitive of you to try and dismiss and silence an experience shared by me and many other trans women. Experience trumps opinion.

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I can not agree. I recently had a dispute at school with the most rachet, ghetto , raggediest of cis females. Dnt even remember how it started, but as soon as it was known i was trans she said " Bitch how you supposed to be a muthafuckin transgenduh? You supposed to look better than a "REAL" wuhman!" So yes there is this silly expectation from society that transsexual women much be drop dead gorgeous where as cis women may look like "who done it and why".

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so why are you taking the word of "the most rachet, ghetto, raggediest of cis females" and claiming she speaks for all of society? that's like if i told you i talked to the most hercules looking tranny and was asking me how much i bench press so all trannies much be the same.

i think the scenario you presented above is FAKE because you had to undermine that person's look. why did you have to stress she was "the most rachet, ghetto, raggediest of cis females?"

also you said men are overstepping their boundaries by questioning your experiences. i don't see the point of stating something if you don't expect a response.

the rest of what you said is really up to individual opinion: so when you say "men pursue the most beautiful trans women(only for sex of course) but the cis woman they parade around is homely" that's because beautiful women don't need to look like they're selling sex to be found attractive. believe it or not, most men adore natural, non-made-up women with a great personality. and sometimes, the personality trumps the looks

cheerio!

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I can not agree. I recently had a dispute at school with the most rachet, ghetto , raggediest of cis females. Dnt even remember how it started, but as soon as it was known i was trans she said " Bitch how you supposed to be a muthafuckin transgenduh? You supposed to look better than a "REAL" wuhman!" So yes there is this silly expectation from society that transsexual women much be drop dead gorgeous where as cis women may look like "who done it and why". You see it with men who ry and pursue the most beautiful trans women(only for sex of course) but the cis woman they parade around is homely... and im being generos with that word. Also
Not to be rude but I feel that men are over stepping their boundaries by trying to question or doubt what im telling you is MY LIVED EXPERIENCE as a trans woman. Just sit and listen. I cant tell u what it is to be a cis man, so how can you question my experiences. And like it or not most of you are the perpetrators so how doubly offensive and insensitive of you to try and dismiss and silence an experience shared by me and many other trans women. Experience trumps opinion.

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Yeah...It's us that are being insensitive and offensive! :rolleyes:

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lol. Wow. Forget this post was ever created. Moderator, administrator please delete this thread and my account. The men, as always, have found a way to shift blame and once again dominish and deny the experience of trans women when most of them have never even MET a a trans womaman in real life and those who have mostly frame their experience through prostitutes or porn actors. Stupidity is here to stay and girls will continue to suffer. Pethaps it is me who is oversteppng boundaries. Must learn to let sleeping dogs lie. Wtf... how did i THINK this post would be taken??? Naive girl... Its what i get for trying to do good. Why am i speaking for girls who CLEARLY enjoy subpar treatment??? I will just bow out gtacefully... can't sully my hands with filth. I atcually HAVE a man... not a chaser/trade/admirer/client/date....

I guess I'm just an evil man, keeping t-girls in bondage! :shrug
Actually, that's not a bad idea...All i need's a cellar!

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The bashing came from you in a blanket statement. You can't not expect the men here to defend themselves. Be it clear and distinct, or in satirical humor.

Your life experience is YOURS. Not mine, nor a lot of other girls here.

I do not suffer. I will never suffer any man nor girls alike.

You underestimate people and assume too far. You aren't really doing any good. If you want to do good, actually go out to where tgirls are abused and condemned and help them with their struggles.

Here, the girls are happy. I chose this life to be in porn. It was not forced on me. I enjoy my work and no one can "save" me, because I saved myself, by getting myself into a career that is my passion which I enjoy, and I am also in a loving relationship with a tgirl who is also in porn, and has the exact sentiments about our work as I do.

This is not sub-par treatment. For you, maybe it is, but you can not come into my home and tell me I am a slave to "The Man" and that I can not break through glass ceilings because of them. You clearly lack proper facts about the tgirls in porn, the true admirers, and the owner of Grooby ( who owns this forum ).

Only response i need is how to dismantle my account....thanks😉

Or..... you could just not post again, or not come to this site again.........

It's really easy.

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Look sweetie, I dont want to be rude but our differing of experience could be due to the fact that you are an older/late transitioner so of course our experiences dffer(Once again, i dnt know you but im making an educated guess on age due to the leathery texture of your skin. Im an aesthetician so i observe peoples skin all day long, and let me just say suncreen and moisturizer are VERY good friends to know) It is not in my interest to give chasers here the satisfaction of seeing trans sisters be discourteous and disrespectful
to one another. If you feel the need to be catty with me to impress some chasers, then blessed be to you. Im not about that life anymore, but if pushed and disrespected, you will quickly learn that a bit of that nasty trans escort attitude lingers in me. So please play nice�� You can continue to be disrespectful or you could be legitamately helpful with advising me on how to delete my account.i I dont want to just stay away.... i want it gone. Now if you can help with that im willing to be woman enough to appologize for my low blow remarks.

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log off, then never log back in. close browser. reopen browser and don't type hungangels or hungangels forum anywhere (including google)

it might prove to be difficult at first, but also avoid replying in this thread to help reach you're goal.

we'll all be praying for your success so good luck and best wishes etc.

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log off, then never log back in. close browser. reopen browser and don't type hungangels or hungangels forum anywhere (including google)

it might prove to be difficult at first, but also avoid replying in this thread to help reach you're goal.

we'll all be praying for your success so good luck and best wishes etc.

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Thank u mr. Chaser, but i already expressed that would not be satisfactory. I want no evidence of having been here. Its that shameful for me.What is the deal anyway? An administrator has yet to get back to me on this matter. Are they trying to keep me in their tranny data base?? Perhaps if i am annoying and offensive enough they may delete me???

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Look sweetie, I dont want to be rude but our differing of experience could be due to the fact that you are an older/late transitioner so of course our experiences dffer(Once again, i dnt know you but im making an educated guess on age due to the leathery texture of your skin.

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Really helping the sisterhood there! :hide-1:

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Thank u mr. Chaser, but i already expressed that would not be satisfactory. I want no evidence of having been here. Its that shameful for me.What is the deal anyway? An administrator has yet to get back to me on this matter. Are they trying to keep me in their tranny data base?? Perhaps if i am annoying and offensive enough they may delete me???

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You know, the funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven't done.

So today was the day you put your foot in your mouth a few times on the Internet. It happens. Lesson learned. One of the nice things about being a little older is that we've already made those mistakes.

So chalk this one up to experience, maybe in the future refrain from casting judgement upon people you don't really know, and be on your merry way.

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Thank u mr. Chaser, but i already expressed that would not be satisfactory. I want no evidence of having been here. Its that shameful for me.What is the deal anyway? An administrator has yet to get back to me on this matter. Are they trying to keep me in their tranny data base?? Perhaps if i am annoying and offensive enough they may delete me???

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If you remove your photo...then there is no evidence of you having been here...I just looked at your profile...there's nothing there. No one knows or will ever know who you are. Just do that and stop posting.

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Well they arent really doing much to dispute those ideas. Girls everywhere year in and year out have the same complaint. Are we going to throw the blame back and forth or come up with solutions. I would say the girls for the most part have done what they can and have just resigned themselves to their "fate". What about the men who claim to "love" them so? Surely a type woman who is supposedly loved and desired so much, as evidenced by the large number of "admirers" on a site such as this, should have those said admirers PUBLICLY outraged and speaking vehemently about the indignaties she faces? Those are the actions that I understand TRUE love and admiration inspires. Am i wrong, sir?

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You assumption is that "NO" men go to that extent to support the community. I don't know you or who you are but, your charge that NONE of us support the community in that manner is bogus. Admittedly, the large majority fall within your guideline. However, there are those of us that enjoy the banter on this and other sites AND are morally and actively supportive of ALL OF YOU! Your 'generalization' is a bit off base, as most 'generalizations' are. AND apparently, you started something you couldn't finish. Sad that you are so bitter....sounds more like you are the one with the problem.

What is "CIS"?

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What is "CIS"?

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Cisgender - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Or an insurance company! :shrug

If the point of the thread is to show you've moved on then at some point, you have to prove it, by moving on.

It can't work that you start a thread to say you have much better things to do and then linger for several pages to insult a bunch of people......(all the while claiming to be the one who's offended:).

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? I will just bow out gtacefully....

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Good one.