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First, let me state that this is admittedly a true "rant" which has no other purpose than to indulge the carnal side of me, which right now, is asking for a pound of flesh.
Second, for those of you just catching up: here is the thread referenced in this one, which you should read just for the fun of it.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=87122
Third, let's begin.
ACT 1: Moderating
Prospero:
You're a Moderator... it is high, fucking time you act like one. I've stayed out of all "Prospero as Moderator" type of threads but holy hell... If you're not going to act like one... then relinquish the title or create yourself a little stage name that you can hide behind so you're not pissing people off by abusing your role.
A role of a Moderator should be above reproach, and you should follow ALL the rules set forth by the board... without question.
You should not be going back and editing your posts after the time (for everyone else) has expired without saying that you've done so. You did this in the above-referenced Doughnuts thread, and I have the screenshots to prove it if you deny that you did so.
You should not be using the thumbs up / thumbs down thing (which I could care less about, really). You should be neutral... or have the appearance of it.
You should be watching everything you write to make sure it is above reproach.
That is moderating. You're not the owner and you're not a regular Member... you're a Moderator. You give up the privileges of having an opinion sometimes to enjoy the responsibilities given to you. You suck at doing your job.
This is your quote. I will destroy it following - point by luscious point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
First, let's be sure who us distorting here. When you quote someone, you should take the context. If you're not doing so, you're being dishonest. Which, you've done repeatedly here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
It is amazing that you left out the TWO times I stated quite clearly that MY point wasn't to insinuate that you were trying to be racist... it was to point out that your question could easily have been taken as such.
I've stated TWICE now, and I'll state for a third... it is not the [what could be perceived as] racist nature of your question that is the point; it is that it could be perceived as such. In other words, most everything we say, whether by accident or otherwise, can have the perception of being "insensitive".
So, if you're going to lecture on distorting and poisoning... best be sure that you're actually giving the full context of what people have said that you're quoting, OK?
This is such a ludicrous statement that it is almost comical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Unless you're just in the habit of objectively telling people something is "funny" or "unfunny" then when you say something that someone has said is "unfunny"... you're making a statement about it.
"Huge Joke Krissy.... unfunny I am afraid."
... you must have a reason. It is incredibly stupid to believe that you just go around judging "funny vs unfunny" completely and utterly objectively. The above quote therefore, decrying something as "unfunny, I am afraid" must have implication.
Let's break this down and deconstruct your terse response.
"Unfunny"... totally, utterly fine. Your opinion, and I wouldn't have said "boo" about it if you had just said that.
"...I am afraid"... THAT carries implication... weight... meaning. It is characteristically used when you wish to imply negative meaning to something done / stated or something about to be done / stated. The implication here is that what I did in posting the OP was, in some respect "negative"... in other words, "wrong", either morally or ethically. Since it is not really "morally" wrong, the implication is "ethically" wrong. Ethically wrong means it is breaking some inherent code of decency.
"Krissy.. it was so uncharacteristic that a lot of people here who like you took it seriously. There are plenty of people who DO post serious stuff about themselves, so why would we not take you seriously.
It is not a failure of our humour if we respond sympathetically and then when you reveal you hoodwinked us are a bit pissed off."
The above is a partial quote of your very next post to me. The implication is pretty easy to understand - People took it seriously (and BTW - when is "four" = "a lot" ?), including yourself and voiced concern. When they (since you use the modifier "us" I can only assume you're speaking on their behalf, right?) found out the concern was unwarranted, were "pissed off" about it.
You are partially correct in saying that you never actually accused me of being "insensitive" but nor did you oppose the other person involved in the thread at that point, who was. It is not a stretch then for me to assume that you agree with his point of view since you really never stated an actual reason for finding the joke "unfunny, I am afraid".
It is by implication and logic that you've accused me of being insensitive in posting the thread.
I blew nothing up and you did not "simply point out..." as you stated - as I already deconstructed above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
You seem incredibly unaware that it was I, as in ME, who stopped the thread immediately when I thought it was going too far... at FOUR (that's 1. 2. 3. 4.) responses... not very many.
You seem equally unaware to note, or give me credit for apologizing for creating the conditions that created those four responses - IMMEDIATELY and with no qualifiers. I ask you... what in the fuck of all creation could I have done more?
I love how you took on the offenses of those not even voicing them to try and make your point appear bigger that it was. YOU felt foolish afterwards... NOT THEY. YOU. And then you whined about it. And then later denied that you were whining.
GROW THE FUCK UP.
You do mean, Navajo Native Americans, right? I mean, we don't say "Indians" anymore. (Can you see how stupid it is once we start accusing people of being "insensitive"?) Anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Get this through your head, Prospero. I didn't accuse you of being a racist, I implied (and even basically stated) it could be taken that way. Three times now I've clarified that and yet you still are getting hung up on thinking I've called you a "racist".
But anyway... so there was no other way to make your point (still trying to actually figure that out) other than bringing the Navajo it it? And you didn't just "compare"... the question implies that if I was part "Navajo", it would explain why I was so "unfunny". This inherently implies that Navajo are "unfunny". While not being the most derogatory thing to say about a people, it is still, at worst racist and at best "insensitive" to phrase an argument around.
But just for kicks and giggles and because your argument about why what you've said isn't racist is completely amusing... let's pretend I am leveling that accusation at you.
BELOW THIS IS THEORETICAL PEOPLE AND FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION...
For fuck's sake... what you said WAS racist. It is the very definition of racism. You took YOUR [negative] observations / experiences with a culture and applied it to an entire and particular group of people, in this case the Navajo people.
"I spent several months with them. Have you?"
What in the bum-fuck of all creation does spending time with people have anything to do with racism? Are you fucking nuts? You've basically just given about 100% of all racists an awesome out for their beliefs. Oh, well, I've spent time with Black people and so I can say, "Don't bring Black people to my basketball games." WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF EXCUSE IS THAT?
Now, as I've already stated, I don't believe it was your intention to do so or to be so... but really. I could care less about your "record". By all accounts, Donald Sterling was about to be awarded A FUCKING LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD by the NAACP... so his "record" must have been great, right? Does that excuse his statements today?
AGAIN: I'm not saying Prospero is racist. I'm not implying it. I'm stating emphatically that I do not believe he is. I'm stating his phrasing of the question could easily be taken as such, and therefore "insensitive" to the Navajo.
It is obfuscation to post quotes out of context and change your original ones to better your argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
It is obfuscation to ignore the points and go off about how non-racist you are, while pretty much proving the opposite.
It is obfuscation to deny what you've implied and/or said implicitly.
It is obfuscation to blame others for what you've said... "but.but.but... Chaos said it... not me..."
Actually, I take that last one back. That's not obfuscation... that just plain cowardice.
GROW THE FUCK UP. Take responsibility for what you've written, implied, and / or stated.
I do. I have. I live with it.
Ciao everyone! 3.2.1... before this thread is mysteriously deleted so read it while you can!
I have no intention of deleting this thread nor of responding to it beyond this.
1. I did edit ONE post
this one...my first response.
"You're brave to post it here. Maybe that helps. I wish you success and recovery Krissy."
After I saw it was a dumb joke I added
"Thanks for the bullshit Krissy!"
2. Yes i used the word Indian in regard to the Navajo who, properly should be referred to as Dine. Their name. So what? I do not take this to be racist. But if you do - your prerogative.
As for the rest of your rant. Well - let folks here read it. It is, in a word, ludicrous and does you no credit..
This thread should never be deleted.
Well, there's not really much to respond to is there? It is pretty damn clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Well, I'm glad you admit it and are not forcing me to use the screenshots.
So, as a Moderator, it is entirely OK for you to edit your own posts after nobody else has that option without implicitly stating you've done so?
How many other times have you done this? In what other circumstances? Where is fucking Snowden when you need him?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE - DID YOU EVEN FUCKING READ ANYTHING I WROTE BEFORE MAKING A COMMENTARY ON IT ABOUT HOW LUDICROUS IT IS?
How many fucking times now do I have to state that I do not think you're a racist before you get that?
PROSPERO IS NOT A RACIST.
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PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
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PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
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PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
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PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
PROSPERO HAS ONLY SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS "RACIST". IT WAS NOT HIS INTENTION AND HE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON THAT.
Good. Fucking. Lord. Does that help with your reading comprehension?
LoL flooding the thread like a 7 year old
pathetic drama queen
How about some writing comprehension re: the meaning of "I left this board and once again, I find myself leaving." (link)
Prospero, if anyone uses the race card at you than odds are: "they are the racists". I've have only interacted with you for a short while but I will say I only sense good from you. No matter what anyone may attack you for, you will continue be in good company with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Ashlyn, you really are one helluva "ASS-KISSER." And someone as well that brings her own drama on herself. As per your thread, as you've noticed it had been discarded. "Who is this Guy Brian Daley?" Then the recent stupid-ass snapshot screen shot you reposted thinking it was me who was trying to chat with you on 6/5? What the hell is your problem bitch?
If you gave "GroobyKrissy" the TIME OR DAY to read her post in it's entirety, of which I for one did, and probably one of the few that did for that matter, as she anticipated, you would had been enlightened by her thoughts. Yes it was lengthy, but it was very worth well the time spent to read what she had to say. Everything she mentioned so applies to everyone, after reading your ridiculous comments Ashlyn!
Ammendment to previous post. I did not correspond with you on 6/5 on whatever network you allege I did. Prove it otherwise. With corresponding documentation including the IP Address!
And yet here you are bringing an argument from another thread into this one JUST to start more shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poubrian
IndeedQuote:
Originally Posted by Chaos
This thread is already a trainwreck. More shit is not needed.
What shit are you referring to? Just bringing up valid points that in a sense I felt were relevant. I don't give a rats ass who's side your on. What it boils down to is this board is obviously infested with a bunch of sexually frustrated assholes that pick and choose who's ass they want to kiss, and who's clique they want to be a part of, and bully the shit out of people who aren't part of a clique, or who's comments aren't in alignment with the majority. Then you have a moderator that is supposed to be more mature than the majority responding as he did? I am so sorry to no end I even joined this foresaken site. Throw my ass out of here! Don't wish to be associated with fucking assholes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos
L to the O to the motherfucking L.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8RaHB18ckMQuote:
Originally Posted by Chaingunner
You're kidding, right? I admitted right from the start that this was a puerile rant with no point, no redeeming qualities, and done purely as an indulgence (which it says in the subtitle).Quote:
Originally Posted by Weissmann
But, hey... let's applaud the person who states the obvious. Nice. :cheers:
Point. Here is your answer:Quote:
Originally Posted by scroller
Look. There are very, very few things that I won't just walk away from. One of those is being called a racist or being told that I've called someone a racist. The term is pretty much one of the worst things you can call someone and I find it so serious that I'll defend against it ad nauseam, as will anyone who is wrongfully accused of either should.
I could care less if the last thing people think about me as I leave this forum for good is:
Krissy is a fucking, egotistical twat who loves being right. Fine. I disagree. But fine... I'll walk away from that, as I've done. OR:
Krissy wants to turn all people into CD's. Fine. I disagree. But fine... I'll walk away from that, as I've done.
What I won't walk away from though is being charged with throwing out the term "racist" on somebody without an explanation. Which I've now offered FOUR times and STILL people think I picked on poor Prospero and called him a "racist". That was the only reason I created this thread... because it was getting lost in the muck of the others about what was actually stated and said.
After people finally start realizing that I've not called anyone a racist, fine. I'm gone and you can continue your life since you've obviously put it on hold for me.
I don't know you as many of your posts have been while I was not really paying attention to this board, so you get a pass. If you're saying that I, in fact, must be racist though... You had kind of better explain that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
Since you are posting in a thread started by me, and the only reference I have for your post is my own posts regarding Prospero, I can only assume that "I" amd the "they are the racists" that you're referring to. Care to clarify?
So, anyway, I find it amusing that everyone is totally OK with a Moderator changing and altering posts without stating so. To this very second, the modification still appears without any sort of statement about it. It took me saying that I had screenshots of the changes with times for this admission to come from Prospero himself. I find that fascinating.
Why do I care? Because it changes the entire and I mean, ENTIRE scope of the argument and it renders my stated timeline, incorrect. The way the thread now reads, it appears that Prospero called me out on the "joke" right away and then I attacked him personally for doing that, or because I was upset he ruined the "fun". If I was a casual reader, that is how I would now read the thread. That's simply not what happened.
So, all this griping about Steven being a bully, and being too harsh, etc. etc. but hey... Moderator Prospero can do whatever he wants, and do something that is far, far more egregious in my book... applause for him all around. How many of his other posts has he altered to better his argument for future readers? This admitted abuse of power... no apology... no change... just basically a "fuck you" figuratively and literally said. Thumbs up for that!
A Moderator that cannot moderate honestly should be something everyone should be against. They can potentially login as you, they can change old text, delete their own "mistakes", add to past conversations... they can do just about anything.
Honestly... I thought people would be more concerned about that. But, I guess the ol' boys club still rallies around the flag. Cool. Get out the cigars and smoke away... and by cigars, I mean cocks, and by smoke away I mean... well... you know. Oh that's right... nobody here is gay. Sorry for the mistake.
Edited by me for relevant portion:
Look... I appreciate the sentiment... I really do. However, yours is not really the kind of "help" that helps here. You've got your own issues to deal with and I am more than capable to deal with this small bit of amusement at the moment. I'm just happily writing blog posts for my network right now and kind of checking back in every now and then anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poubrian
As per your PM, I'm not angry or upset that you've entered into this conversation. That is the right of all Members here and if you choose to continue, do so. I just want it publicly stated that I haven't requested such.
I was also involved in a debate with Prospero when he also deleted words he said in the thread. It was some thread about Americans should be ashamed and showed a picture of Walmart. I went back to the thread and it was changed, so Krissy is quite correct in that respect.
Prospero can be an ass at times, but so is Krissy.
Yes. I have on a very few occasions edited postings. I add and amend postings of mine in the review section to offer update - If a girl reviewed has retired for instance or to add new pictures. I have also helped a few members by deleting the s on an http link when posting music so the YouTube visual can be made visible. Egregious? I don't think so. As to the rest of the silly accusations ... Well I have said my bit.
Please continue with your ranting if you like Krissy.
the accusations made in this thread are beyond insane and deserve no response.
;):kiss::D
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Originally Posted by Poubrian
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Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy
Krissy please understand, by no means ment to highjack your thread, I was simply replying to a members post
(a member which I have a social relationship with on other networks)
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Originally Posted by Prospero
I just wanted to publicly explain to Prospero that if he feels people are wrongfuly calling him racist that I would be on his side of the argument because I choose to like him.
I admit that I did not read any of your post from this thread, my apologies for being so inconsiderate. I promise that from now onI will read all of your post before I make any reply.
Are you implying something?
my utterly meaningless three cents on this.
1.Krissy make any joke you want. funny or unfunny.
2. Prospero and Chaos. grow up. who cares if you think something is insensitive.
3. And by far the most important thing to come out of all of this "What in the bum-fuck of all creation..." is a phrase that will now enter my DAILY usage HILARIOUS!!!!!!
lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by scottnapx
I'm impressed by your self-awareness if not your restraint:).Quote:
Originally Posted by scottnapx