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Now i'm saying fat.
So all of you brothers from Spanish Harlem can just sit down!
I'm not talking about thick....i'm talking tank ass double sheet cake top women who demand that I look at them as if they are in anyway a sexual being.
I'm talking about women who are no joke one cupcake away from diabetes!
When did being morbidly obese become....the norm?
I have to agree..
http://www.returnofkings.com/25103/f...-airplane-seat
and the video in the end......i lost my lunch!
http://demotivationalpost.com/demoti...fat-people.jpg
Yeah ok...if a guy is fat he's just a fat fuck....but if a girl is 40 lbs over weight ... i have to be ok with it?
Bitch! WTF! Why do you think i go to the gym three fucking days a week and am not stuffing my face with food!
Not only do i want to look good but fuck...i want to live a long happy life! WTF!
So, you're saying you like the big girls?
That's cool.
Saying 40 lbs overweight is not really a good way to say it. You could be 40 lbs over in lean body mass.
I think bigger people have a lot to offer, but it's only 'just a number' if it's not a reflection of how lazy or unhealthy a person is. Health is more important than size. There's a reason they sometimes call it 'morbid' obesity. And as has been alluded, some people really are just genetically predisposed to being overweight.
~BB~
I don't mind someone being overweight. I do mind constant bitching about it, behavior which suggests it is an incurable condition out of their control, or attempts to rationalize it. Yes, some people do have legit medical conditions which predispose them to obesity. No, most overweight people don't have said conditions. If being fit is sufficiently important to you, you will find the time to exercise -- 30 minutes, 4-5 times per week is sufficient for most adults -- and you will keep track of what you eat and always ask yourself whether eating that cookie or extra helping of dinner is worth the extra calories. I'm not gonna judge UNTIL you start acting like this isn't a straightforward thing to fix.
Considering how I look, I'm in no position to judge ANYONE on their looks. For folks seriously overweight, I DO worry about their health...but I'm to nice to say their overweight to their face.
I do love a bit of thickness though. See the three young ladies below. None of them are a size 2, but goddammit they're still very attractive to me.
In fairness, being overweight is usually a result of a complex pattern of learned behaviors, and thus getting back to a healthy weight means disentangling those behaviors and modifying them. In that respect, it's not an easy task. That said, the fundamentals of weight loss/gain are VERY straightforward, and the principle steps of exercising regularly and eating fewer calories are not particularly hard.
Just how big is she? If you dont fit in a seat, you need to rethink some choices.
The question "when did fat shaming become such a NO NO" is the topic. It should always have been a NO NO. Why shame someone for who they are? Does it make you feel better about your own inadequacies?
This is where school bullying starts and it continues through their lives. You may as well ask why does "race", "hair colour", "height" or "disability" shaming become a NO NO.
It's more about you - then it is about them.
Actually not really, there are many factors at play, including genetics. Straightforward methods work for some people but sometimes the body has a set bf % ratio to lbm that it will maintain and ultimately hormone levels will make it impossible to use the straightforward method.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsmirandameadows
I actually hate looking fat T-Girls, Girls and Guys... and even fit when they have those ass implants what seems to be like half a football inserted under skin... it look just ugly :why
My favourite thread in here is Hardbodied T-Girls :Bowdown: :Bowdown:
It's understandable that some t-girls have more work than usual guy when she's in hormones and testosterone level's are 0. It's not easy but if U' want to stay in shape it's not impossible..
She's big boned...Got those big fat bones in her arse! :hide-1:
Yes and no. I don't discount that some people have certain factors, such as genetics or disease, which make it difficult to lose weight. But the simple reality is that sedentary work environments and lifestyles, coupled with abundance of high calorie, addicting foods is to blame for most people's weight problems, not hormones or something of that nature. Even if one does have a condition which makes it harder to lose weight or keep it off, the fundamental arithmetic doesn't change: your body stores excess kCal consumption as body fat, at a rate of about 1lb of fat for every 3500 surplus kCals.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordworm
Losing weight is simply a matter of creating a kCal deficit, no more no less. Again, some people have conditions which reduce the number of kCals their bodies need to function, which in turn makes achieving that kCal deficit harder and stumbling into a kCal surplus easier. Likewise, the more body mass you have, the more kCals your body needs to sustain it, and conversely the less mass, the less calories, so past certain points it becomes more difficult to create a sufficient kCal deficit or surplus for continued weight loss or gain. BUT, it's still the kCal surplus which causes weight gain, not glandular magic or hormones -- certain endocrine profiles just reduce your baseline caloric needs, that's all.
The point of this is that weight gain/loss is a function of calorie intake versus calorie needs. Both of those input variables are subject to adjustment through behavior modification. Ultimately then, the largest barrier to weight loss/gain for most people isn't their physiology, which admittedly can make loss/gain more difficult, but the psychology of changing their behavior. Behavior change is a terribly difficult process, and THAT is the impediment, where as having an endocrine profile which reduces your baseline kCal needs by 150 kCals/day can be overcome by simply no longer having the can of Coke you like to drink with your lunch each day. Such a change is simple, except when it means changing a habitual behavior -- that's the hard part.
Ditto. I've yet to read a post from a guy who claims to prefer only thin ladies because they like feeling her bones in her ribcage and arms whenever holding them close. I'm far more particular about a woman's height because I like tall, full-figured ladies with some heft so I'll had someone warm and soft to cuddle up with. Now that's the way to spend a cool evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben in LA
As long as youre healthy thats all that should matter.
As long as they're healthy AND happy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rockabilly
in a society that preaches acceptance, fat girls are just feeling empowered and not going to let anyone make them feel bad about themselves, which is why they are full of themselves. also, that said, there is someone for everyone so that they can attract a mate that likes more cushion means that they don't really need about being shamed for being fat. the bitchy attitude a fat girl may have is really no different to me than a bitchy attitude a hot skinny girl may have. neither is deserved or warranted and neither girl will have my attention or respect.
As always Miranda speaks the truth in her clear scientific analysis. We can't change our race or height or various congenital deformities. But we can reduce or grow our soft tissues - fat and muscle. Neural physiologists have even shown we can change our brain tissue through long hours of meditation practice. Our food culture is still based on a midwestern farm diet - dairy, fatty meats, grains - without the farm work to burn it off. If we're going to sit in front of computer terminals all day we've got to cut back on the sugar and carbos and fatty meats and most dairy or we're going to work our way back to the fattest nation in the world. We slipped to #2 this year behind Mexico. If there wasn't a certain amount of societal shame in being fat how much more obese would we be as a nation.
The problem is of course that being thin is a relatively new fad and the actual evidence indicates that it may not be the healthy thing it has been portrayed as.
Traditionally through history being slightly heavier has been healthier. The average life span is higher than countries where people are thinner.
It's not that long ago Marilyn Monroe was a sex symbol and she was a size 16. Look at the women up to the mid 60's and they were curvier.
Obviously being morbidly obese isn't good but what is described as fat by some people really isn't.
Don't forget that we live in a celebrity-obsessed society where the media pounce on a woman for putting on two pounds, rising to above a size 10 or losing it and being judged as anorexic. All this crap has a terrible impact on young girls, their self-image and therefore their self-esteem. And yes, family environmental and economic factors have a lot to do with it too, but body fascism is something we could control if the media were prepared to act responsibly.
And Seanchai is absolutely right. It starts in the playground and goes on all life long.
People come in all shapes and sizes. I don't care if somebody is chubby but if somebody is morbidly obese and they get upset about being called fat than they should start going to the gym and implementing nutritional changes. If you can't be bothered doing that then you shouldn't be bothered being called fat.
Anybody who is cowardly enough to "shame" somebody for something they probley dont allready feel good about, deserves to get there fucking ass beat, im suprised to you people are so insensitive, maybe you should be shamed into dressing as the sex you where born? or shamed not to be a tranny chasing cock loving faggot? come on now, offcourse i agree people should live healthy life styles.
Lord we know what we are but not what we may be... say hi to Carbiedoll
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/a...n_1882410a.jpg
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/dat...iIgAiIgD//2Q==
I'd probably still be a fatass if no one called me fatso. Now they just call me dumbass. Progress. Evolution.
You do realize that nearly half of the united states is obese right?Quote:
Originally Posted by SXFX
heeyyyyy ;) lolQuote:
Originally Posted by beatlephil
This came from about two months ago like this guy this rhino offended there i was after god 7 days away from home and working on a saturday all i wanted was my own bed. I grabbed the early morning flight back home....and like this hung of chunk this fat midwestern woman gets to the door just as it's about to close. It's me and this other guy with a seat open in between both of us and all i can think if...fuck why does god hate me.
sure as shit that's where she sat uffing and puffing and reeking of what ever the hell low end perfume she had bought from the discount bucket of vickies....
and if that's all she did then ok. But this woman was so big that well she was eating up half of my seat and half the seat of the guy in the isle.
I looked over at him and the look was the same...WTF!
It looked like this
\0/ and well i'm a dick so I looked over at her and stated that could she adjust herself such that she were better seated....
You would have thought i walked into a church in harlem and screamed at the top of my lungs....nigger
sweet baby jesus this bitch flipped her lid telling me what right i have to my seat....don't think about this too long it will hurt your fucking head...what right do i have to sit in the seat that was assigned to me when i purchased the ticket......
she threw enough of a shit fit that the 60yo stew came over....speaking of which when the fuck did american airlines start hiring it's stews from the AARP catalog?.....
And guess who got lectured? me.....
So i did what any guy with a cock would do, took names and while in flight drafted a letter to the company stating WTF is going on here!
Now here is the really fucked up bit.....I tell this story to people....and thus far it's been the same thing....i can complain about the woman's attitude but i should not talk about her size.....
You know...and that really fucks with my brain...i can complain about her attitude but don't dare touch her weight?
And before you go down the line of "Oh she had medical issue"
please take this moment to shut the fuck up!
50% of all the women in the us are fat...and of the 50% another half of them are down right obese. Now how the fuck can 25% of the female population be "sick"
Really? FUCK NO!
Just like the woman who was stuffed in that airline seat they are just fat and lazy!
She was sweating just sitting there! It was a 3 hour flight from Chicago to NJ
On that 3 hour flight she consumed three cans of diet soda and one foot long sandwich..
This was an 8am flight.
Maybe some shaming would convince her she has a problem and she may have just eaten some fruit and some water and a few handfuls of nuts.
Now i don't mean to be a dick, i get it...if you broke your back or you have a very serious issue...ok ok i get it.. But this new breed of fat fucks makes me want to drop kick kittens int wood chippers. Not only are they annoying.....and self in powered....but now that we have universal health care....they are costing YOU AND I MONEY!
Judas PRIEST!
Man if only fat people just ate less...why the hell didn't they think of that? Fucking Sherlock here...Quote:
Originally Posted by SXFX
Simple.....please study a bit of anthropology.
You are designed to EAT EAT EAT and pack on fat.
Loosing weight actually hurts! Not only physically but also mentally!
But we are human, we have free will and we can over power our basic animal urges in order to live long happy lives!
This woman was in her i would say mid 20's but looked like she was in her mid 30's and i'll be amazed if she sees her mid 40's without any major medical issues!
I'm afraid you have no idea what you're talking about, but nice try bullshitting. Whenever you want some actual science on the biochemistry behind obese people, please feel free to ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by SXFX
uh huh....really....all these years we had the plethora of calories that we have today at our disposal?
Ever been to a third world country and seen the limit of how little we use to eat back when were were substance farmers and gatherers?
Either way this woman needed to have been fat shamed from the moment she started gaining weight! Maybe if she had she would live to see her 60th birthday with all her limbs attached!
I remember when I used to be fat. Now I can run marathons and only need like 4 hours of sleep without getting wore out. There are a lot of people out there with medical conditions that can't help being over weight (but most aren't). I really feel sorry for ones eating excess amounts of food without exercising enough to become a healthy weight. It's really not rocket science, they just need to burn more calories than they consume. The problem is people are just plain lazy and look for shortcuts like magic pills or videos to buy when they should be doing it their self.
Fuck, you could eat 1 full meal of McDonalds everyday and be a healthy weight. That Supersize Me movie is full of shit. Consuming 3 huge calorie meals a day of ANYTHING and sitting on your ass will make anyone become obese (duh). I only eat 1 good sized meal a day after my exercise routine and do fine (obviously you should eat a lot more if you're building fat content to shape into muscle). 3 portions a day is ridiculous, do you really think if you lived in the wild you could get 3 full meals a day? I doubt it. You would probably be lucky if you got 1 good sized meal every other day and cavemen then were probably burning 10 times the calories we are today.
So let's do the math, the average person burns A LOT less calories than 100 years ago (because of technology), yet a lot of them are still eating 2-3 meals a day, meals are 2-3 times bigger portion, and they tend to eat more junk food causing more fat. No wonder so many people are over weight. I don't know what's worse, how unhealthy the average person is today or the fact that so many people can't figure out why the population is so obese.
I really don't think you understand why fat people are fat, and yes I have been to a third world country. A third world country is not a representation of what was being eaten by the average person back when we were "substance farmers and gatherers". Which by the way are two very different periods in time just so you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SXFX
Sleep is so very vital to the healing of the human body. You really should be sleeping 8 hours a day, and if you are working out catching a one or two hour nap plus your regular 8 hours of sleep is extremely beneficial. No, people aren't lazy, that is just a very unfair statement. You don't realize that these people are literally addicted to food. Do you tell a heroin addict they are lazy because they can't kick the habit? A fat person has more will power than the normal individual. A fat person needs more will power to get out of bed in the morning than a normal person even exerts throughout their entire morning routine. I don't think you were ever really fat, I don't think you understand what happens when you hit 100+ lbs. overweight. It isn't as simple as "eating less calories". We are talking about the nutritional content of the food you intake. I challenge you, I seriously challenge you to become obese on fruits and vegetables.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilyRox
There is nothing wrong with eating throughout the day. No, most of the hunter gatherers and even the human beings in agriculture ate throughout the day. Do you know how Sumo wrestlers add fat to their bodies? They workout in the morning until noon, they eat a huge meal, then they go to sleep. That is how they add all that fat to their body, now why don't you tell me again how you love eating one meal a day. There is a lot of misinformation about nutrition, it isn't as easy as you're making it out to be, especially if you are addicted to sugar and the processed food you've been eating since you were 3.
I lost 72 lbs in about a year and a half, most of it was in a year. I think I know what it's like to work towards something.Quote:
Originally Posted by algebra1900
I am not trying to knock your achievement. I know it was hard work, and I congratulate you on your weight loss. However knowing what it is like to work has no bearing on your knowledge of nutrition. I mean you literally just suggested someone eat McDonald's once a day and they could lose weight. Why do you think that? Do they have the same genetics as you? The same biochemistry? No, they don't, your anecdotal evidence isn't helpful in the overall picture of why 50% of America is obese.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilyRox
Anyone can eat 1 McDonalds meal a day with exercising enough to either stay the same weight or lose a little. I'm sticking by my statement. I would even be willing to do a 30 day challenge to prove it to you. The problem is people get that whole exercising thing lost in translation.Quote:
Originally Posted by algebra1900
I think shooting a Super Size Me parody is an excellent idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilyRox
Yeah well the Supersize Me thing was rigged from the start. He was eating like 4,500 calories a day and literally sitting on his ass. You can't blame McDonald's for that. He was eating McDonald's 3 times a day for like 30 days that's like 90 full meals, no one does that. McDonald's is horrible crappy food, but basically the idea is with the right portions and exercise you can pretty much eat anything, though it may not give you the energy you need. Soda is the main thing to stay away from.