X-critic also against Transsexuals

Just fucking sad.

For those who missed the drama last week, Xcritic entirely ignored transsexuals in their "fan awards" and claimed the work just wasn't good enough.

A number of us called foul and the owners of xcritic claimed it was not a slight and that they were supporters of our genre.

Now today, when AVN published an article on the AIFD situation xcritic has come out in support of them AND is now insisting they are going to stop covering our genre.

https://twitter.com/xcritic/status/284379753266429952

At least we've seen their true colors... sad.

I haven't had time to write on this properly but I will in due course. It's a simple fix to differentiate trans performers from either gay or "cis" women - either of their datebases could accomodate it cheaply and with little effort.

I think AIFD is the more important one, I don't know how much significance I'd place on XCritic and their threats to consider "to revisit the depth of our coverage of the genre." is pretty pathetic. They're a business and if they don't want part of this genre, then that's THEIR business choice.

I think what is really sad about this whole thing is simply that the company (x-critic), in MY opinion, just aren't willing to own up and be honest about it. I would have more respect for them if, last week, they had just said, "We made a conscious decision, based upon our readership, to not include/cover the genre." Instead, in my conversation with them, they repeatedly said that the genre was considered fairly... which turns out to be a big lie after all (who would've guessed).

So, all this mock outrage about having their nomination process questioned now seems reasonable after all. Who would've thunk?

That's what really, really irritates me... is just the mock outrage when being questioned, and then having it thrown back in your face as if you're being a spoiled child crying about spilled milk... and then being called whiners... and then being called aggressively negative... and then... and then... idiots.

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Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy

I think what is really sad about this whole thing is simply that the company (x-critic), in MY opinion, just aren't willing to own up and be honest about it. I would have more respect for them if, last week, they had just said, "We made a conscious decision, based upon our readership, to not include/cover the genre." Instead, in my conversation with them, they repeatedly said that the genre was considered fairly... which turns out to be a big lie after all (who would've guessed).

So, all this mock outrage about having their nomination process questioned now seems reasonable after all. Who would've thunk?

That's what really, really irritates me... is just the mock outrage when being questioned, and then having it thrown back in your face as if you're being a spoiled child crying about spilled milk... and then being called whiners... and then being called aggressively negative... and then... and then... idiots.

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I suggest we all stay out of the conversation - I think Grooby is handling it well. In fact everything proposed so far shows a class act on Grooby's part.

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Originally Posted by Wendy Summers

I suggest we all stay out of the conversation - I think Grooby is handling it well. In fact everything proposed so far shows a class act on Grooby's part.

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Oh, I'm done with this. I have little patience for stupidity and x-critic's twitter spokesperson has no capacity for reasonable conversation at all. I had my say last week and obviously, little can be done at this point.

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Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy

Oh, I'm done with this. I have little patience for stupidity and x-critic's twitter spokesperson has no capacity for reasonable conversation at all. I had my say last week and obviously, little can be done at this point.

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Does anyone actually know who their owner/spokesperson is?

Not shocking..

And how is it bullying asking for the proper pronouns of how a performer lives their lives?

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Does anyone actually know who their owner/spokesperson is?

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Maybe Chris? I know they're Portland based... not sure of anything else.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Does anyone actually know who their owner/spokesperson is?

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Based on what I was told by some "birdies" during the first discussion, the @xcritic account is the owner.

Don Houston

who actually cares about xcritic anyway just another wanky review website at end of day .. just another parasitic company trying to make affiliate sales off the back of reviews of content blah blah guinea bahh ...

Why do people even give a rats ass about this bell ends ..

There is countless mediums for studios/models etc to use to promote/get reviews etc one site like that is hardly any issue ..

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Originally Posted by LibertyHarkness

who actually cares about xcritic anyway just another wanky review website at end of day .. just another parasitic company trying to make affiliate sales off the back of reviews of content blah blah guinea bahh ...

Why do people even give a rats ass about this bell ends ..

There is countless mediums for studios/models etc to use to promote/get reviews etc one site like that is hardly any issue ..

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I think they care more about their names being associated with gay/male terminology.

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Originally Posted by LibertyHarkness

who actually cares about xcritic anyway just another wanky review website at end of day .. just another parasitic company trying to make affiliate sales off the back of reviews of content blah blah guinea bahh ...

Why do people even give a rats ass about this bell ends ..

There is countless mediums for studios/models etc to use to promote/get reviews etc one site like that is hardly any issue ..

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To an extent you & Seanchai are right - the IAFD is the bigger fish to fry.

This thread was more to highlight that unlike last week's issue with xcritic, this time the website's true colors have been shown.

Is the owner's name Don Houston by any chance? Because thats what it sure seems like:

http://www.xcritic.com/review/37932/...she-male-cock/

Read this review on xcritic and you see what I mean.

Don Houston is NOT the owner

Owners name is Chris and he isnt based out of Portland anymore.

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Originally Posted by LibertyHarkness

who actually cares about xcritic anyway just another wanky review website at end of day .. just another parasitic company trying to make affiliate sales off the back of reviews of content blah blah guinea bahh ...

Why do people even give a rats ass about this bell ends ..

There is countless mediums for studios/models etc to use to promote/get reviews etc one site like that is hardly any issue ..

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I disagree with this sentiment entirely for the simple reason that when you ignore what one company is doing, it makes it easier for others to follow suit.

While I would agree that there are other various mediums to use as promotional vehicles, I also don't believe it is in the best interests of the TS community to simply ignore those who are actively participating in exclusion / discrimination on the basis of gender.

Let me say I have dealt with Xcritic for years and I have NEVER had an issue with him and in fact he has took my side on reviews that had bad pronoun's etc. He has ok' every Interview I've submitted, allowed me to post my PR stuff, I have submitted company DVD's for review for years. I am truly shocked that he feels we are "bullying".

Of course I am not going to say he is "against" us however I can just simply stop contributing to his site and respect his opinion.

Thanks for the link Amy, I'd say "Don Houston" clearly has some issues with transgenders:

"Foreword: The following review deals with the TS, tranny, transsexual, or other term used to describe those who were born men but took great efforts to become more feminine through implants, hormone shots, surgical procedures, chemicals, or other means. Most of them prefer to be called females and the related descriptors (some taking great offense when referred to as “him”, “he”, “dude”, etc.). They and their followers also tend to be very sensitive to being called “gay” or having their self-described gender identity questioned in any way. For the purposes of this review, it should be noted that I use labels in the descriptive sense only, my comments more in keeping with describing the basic elements for a general audience rather than one dedicated to the genre or specific performers, those truly into the subject likely already having the source material of these compiled scenes. If you are really into the TS genre and have yet to watch most of Joey’s releases in the field, you have been missing out as he is usually widely regarded as the best in the field, his mainstream credentials giving him a greater audience to spread the word for those even slightly interested."

One of XCritic's reviewers (and I know he reads here occassionally) "Apache Warrior" is a good reviewer and a good advocate for transgender erotica, I hope he can weigh in with the editors somewhat.

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Let me say I have dealt with Xcritic for years and I have NEVER had an issue with him and in fact he has took my side on reviews that had bad pronoun's etc. He has ok' every Interview I've submitted, allowed me to post my PR stuff, I have submitted company DVD's for review for years. I am truly shocked that he feels we are "bullying".

Of course I am not going to say he is "against" us however I can just simply stop contributing to his site and respect his opinion.

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I'm still confused how the conversation which occurred last week was bullying. There was a flurry for about an hour then dropped by all involved.

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Originally Posted by WendyWilliams

Of course I am not going to say he is "against" us however I can just simply stop contributing to his site and respect his opinion.

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I really don't think they are against us either...I just don't get why they are supporting these guys. Way before this was even an issue, I wrote to them over a year ago asking them to change it in which they promptly responded with no. Recently, many people emailed them and asked them to fix it and they said no. They could of easily changed us all to female like many other sites do which would of been not insulting anyone.

I honestly think that IAFD refused was not only because of the work it would require, but because of their own personal opinions against transwomen. It is sad to see XCritic say we are bullying them when they have been being asked for over a year now to fix it and only responding with No that we were born men, so that's what it will stay as.

That review by Don Houston who sounds more like hes doing a review for Porn Wiki Leaks than Xcritic by the way.

They feel the article on AVN that was posted was "bullying"

Ok - so against was strong language - got it... lol

They also feel that even if they separated the category to ts/transsexual genres

That the "pronoun committee" Don's words...would be mad about that too. Since they are not labeled female.

Don also said "He is old school if you have and use your penis, your male"

But he does feel there should be a category for ts just like there is for gay genres...

So they have the option not to look at trans porn/stars when searching females..

But like he said he believes girls wouldn't be happy with that and still scream discrimination..

He also said "If Steven spent more time advertising and getting involved with getting his dvds etc reviewed it may bring more of a transsexual audience, which would push the views for our type of porn"

I plead complete ignorance on this issue, even after reading the entire thread I am left with this understanding, that the transgender performer's community as a whole want to be 'tagged' as female in descriptions pertaining to awards consideration by various committees? Am I way off base on this? WOOF-WOOF!! Throw me a bone please ladies (no pun intended).

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He also said "If Steven spent more time advertising and getting involved with getting his dvds etc reviewed it may bring more of a transsexual audience, which would push the views for our type of porn"

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Where did he say this?

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I plead complete ignorance on this issue, even after reading the entire thread I am left with this understanding, that the transgender performer's community as a whole want to be 'tagged' as female in descriptions pertaining to awards consideration by various committees? Am I way off base on this? WOOF-WOOF!! Throw me a bone please ladies (no pun intended).

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Sorry, most of this is transpiring off website.

There are a few different issues:
1) IAFD (separate from xcritic) runs a DB where TS performers are listed as male. There have been several requests made to either change this or remove TSs from the Db entirely for at least a year.
2) XCritic's Fan Voting Awards announced last week did not include any TS performers or content. There have been varying explanations as to why. A number of us raised concerns over that last week
3) AVN published an article which called out IAFD for their stance.
4) XCritic Tweeted their support of IAFD and called the political pressure "bullying".

Hilarity ensued.

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Where did he say this?

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Sent you a private message

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Sent you a private message

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Thanks Kelly.
A bit pathetic when a review magazine suggests that if more TS companies spend money with them, they may consider changing the terminology to the proper one.

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Originally Posted by Wendy Summers

Sorry, most of this is transpiring off website.

There are a few different issues:
1) IAFD (separate from xcritic) runs a DB where TS performers are listed as male. There have been several requests made to either change this or remove TSs from the Db entirely for at least a year.
2) XCritic's Fan Voting Awards announced last week did not include any TS performers or content. There have been varying explanations as to why. A number of us raised concerns over that last week
3) AVN published an article which called out IAFD for their stance.
4) XCritic Tweeted their support of IAFD and called the political pressure "bullying".

Hilarity ensued.

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Thank you so much Wendy, I'm enlightened! :Bowdown:

Short, consise, and factual...my favorite!

XCritic ‏@xcritic @GroobySteven A vocal few aggressively attack on behalf of a silent majority. Calling someone with a penis "he" is not degrading or bigoted.



There you girls. Straight from the donkey's mouth.

Well I will no longer be wasting money on sending DVD's for review or submitting Interviews and I hope other companies do the same.

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Originally Posted by WendyWilliams

Well I will no longer be wasting money on sending DVD's for review or submitting Interviews and I hope other companies do the same.

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I'm not sure if we still do - but we're stopping. We stopped sending press releases when they said we had to pay for them (for a press release?). They could easily turn some revenue on that site by putting in a few good affiliate programs but I think they're clearly small minded on both business and their thinking.
I actually have no idea of how much readership they even have, I'd never heard of them until a year or so ago when the PR person at the time suggested we send to them.

It's a shame because I think over-all they're probably good eggs - but that quotes above show that they're either incredibly ignorant or just don't care about alienating a whole bunch of people. I think the owner/editor has just became obstructive as he didn't like being called out in public.

Fuck it - bigger fish.

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Originally Posted by Wendy Summers

Just fucking sad.

For those who missed the drama last week, Xcritic entirely ignored transsexuals in their "fan awards" and claimed the work just wasn't good enough.

A number of us called foul and the owners of xcritic claimed it was not a slight and that they were supporters of our genre.

Now today, when AVN published an article on the AIFD situation xcritic has come out in support of them AND is now insisting they are going to stop covering our genre.

https://twitter.com/xcritic/status/284379753266429952

At least we've seen their true colors... sad.

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I know I am going to get a lot of heat for this. I think X-critic has a point about the quality of TS porn films. TS porn is a joke. TS Seduction, Devil's Films, and Reality Junkies are the only companies that produce quality TS porn films. Their scenes have up to date video quality. Everyone else is way too behind in video quality. Most companies are way too cheap. Their production sets are way too cheap. The scene sets are cheap.

The fact that Shemale Strokers is nominated for an AVN is bullshit. I've been a member! Their photo and video quality is terrible.

Another problem is that the top girls rarely appear for most companies because the companies are too cheap to buy them at good rates. We want Kimber James, Kelly Shore, and Yasmin Lee at other sites other than their own. Pay these women their fair share! This also affects the quality of TS porn. People want to see the best. This is expected in porn. You don't see straight porn going for 5th best like you do in TS porn.

TS porn doesn't have any standards in terms of model quality. Anyone can be shoot in TS porn. Hell, some sites cheat members by shooting a TV. Most TS women who enter porn are just starting out and do not have the look to be in porn.

However, I do agree with the TS women and fans about how they are incorrectly labeled in the database. They should be labeled as Transsexuals, not as gay men. They are not men. Show them some respect.

I just got this from Don - I blacked out certain parts

Big problem, easy solution.
Transphobia is still real apparently and it's unfortunate business professionals who work in the adult industry don't bother wasting their time to educate themselves.

I just got email from iafd.com they posted a blog and are changing:

http://blog.iafd.com/2012/12/27/an-o...ual-community/

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I just got email from iafd.com they posted a blog and are changing:

http://blog.iafd.com/2012/12/27/an-o...ual-community/

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Good job Michelle!

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Just fucking sad.

For those who missed the drama last week, Xcritic entirely ignored transsexuals in their "fan awards" and claimed the work just wasn't good enough.

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I believe they said that but you dont think so? These sites/producers make all their money off the fact that we want to see the girls but are lacking on the actual product. Dudes shouldnt have to debate what site theyre going to join and pray that their money isnt wasted on shitty camera angles, poor quality videos, highly anticipated girls in scenes where all they do is walk around in lingerie, girls not getting fucked, lame positions, poor direction, etc.

There needs to be a serious overhaul in quality of product in this genre of people are just going to stop buying from these weak sites all together.

Look at how Extremeladyboys.com at 40.00/mon and LadyboyGold.com at 30.00/mon rarely offer any discounts. They have a steady fan base b/c they offer a quality product. One hardcore one solo per week. The scenes are well produced and the look great.
These are the only two sites where I know what I getting all the time. What they do should be the standard.

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I believe they said that but you dont think so? These sites/producers make all their money off the fact that we want to see the girls but are lacking on the actual product. Dudes shouldnt have to debate what site theyre going to join and pray that their money isnt wasted on shitty camera angles, poor quality videos, highly anticipated girls in scenes where all they do is walk around in lingerie, girls not getting fucked, lame positions, poor direction, etc.

There needs to be a serious overhaul in quality of product in this genre of people are just going to stop buying from these weak sites all together.

Look at how Extremeladyboys.com at 40.00/mon and LadyboyGold.com at 30.00/mon rarely offer any discounts. They have a steady fan base b/c they offer a quality product. One hardcore one solo per week. The scenes are well produced and the look great.
These are the only two sites where I know what I getting all the time. What they do should be the standard.

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I'm not saying all TS porn is technically great... hell, my own content is grind house level quality -as in is there is no quality LOL. I agree most of TS porn won't stack up for many reasons.

But that being said there are moments of brilliance out there: Nica Noelle's Transromantic film is one of them. Xcritic's own reviewer raved about Amy's performance in that. If we pick through all the work generated in the past year there's other stellar examples out there. I'm not saying TSs should have dominated the list or had a strong showing, but nothing? That I had concerns over.

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I believe they said that but you dont think so? These sites/producers make all their money off the fact that we want to see the girls but are lacking on the actual product. Dudes shouldnt have to debate what site theyre going to join and pray that their money isnt wasted on shitty camera angles, poor quality videos, highly anticipated girls in scenes where all they do is walk around in lingerie, girls not getting fucked, lame positions, poor direction, etc.

There needs to be a serious overhaul in quality of product in this genre of people are just going to stop buying from these weak sites all together.

Look at how Extremeladyboys.com at 40.00/mon and LadyboyGold.com at 30.00/mon rarely offer any discounts. They have a steady fan base b/c they offer a quality product. One hardcore one solo per week. The scenes are well produced and the look great.
These are the only two sites where I know what I getting all the time. What they do should be the standard.

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I agree and disagree. I don't think Extremeladyboys and LadyboyGold set the standards. TS Seduction, Reality Junkies, and Devil's Films have much better video quality than the sites you listed.

You don't know how to shop for porn. No one should be paying $40 a month for any site. There are discounts everywhere. You can get Devil's Films and Reality Junkies memberships for $5 a month and their TS porn has good quality. You can get a TS Seduction membership for $18 at certain review sites and blogs.

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I'm not saying all TS porn is technically great... hell, my own content is grind house level quality -as in is there is no quality LOL. I agree most of TS porn won't stack up for many reasons.

But that being said there are moments of brilliance out there: Nica Noelle's Transromantic film is one of them. Xcritic's own reviewer raved about Amy's performance in that. If we pick through all the work generated in the past year there's other stellar examples out there. I'm not saying TSs should have dominated the list or had a strong showing, but nothing? That I had concerns over.

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TS porn doesn't deserve coverage. Like Mac B said the product needs a MAJOR overhaul in quality and production. The quality in TS porn is a joke.

Remember last year when everyone was so excited for the first ever TS Parody movie featuring TS Foxxy? That was such false advertising. one scene out of 4 was actually focused on the Parody. While the other scenes were just a bunch of old scenes put in the DVD to make it 2 hours. Reallly? Really?

There is way too much solo content, and not enough hardcore content in TS porn. That's another reason why some people do not want to cover TS porn. Bailey Jay was a joke. However, TS porn doesn't have any standards so she won AVN two years in a role for providing solo and POV content. Straight men who buy porn want hardcore content. We always hear producers saying that straight men want TS porn. However, the type of content they want isn't being produced.