Why do most TS admirer/chasers wouldnt tell they had sex with a guy before?

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls.

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If they suck cock well, there's your answer (sometimes). :shrug

Beats me, I guess they are embarrassed or afraid that you will think them less of a man. I don't get this- who you have sex with shouldn't determine how manly you are, rather it should be your values, the way you treat people, honor and integrity.

Well coz they wont admit to themselves they are gay ;)

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Originally Posted by KittyPride

Well coz they wont admit to themselves they are gay ;)

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That's true too. I guess guys need to get over this- there is no shame in being gay

Hm, I'm not really sure. It could be they're in denial or embarrassed of their sexual experiences with other men or they're scared of what you'll think of them. I know if a guy was interested in me and he had told me he'd been with guys, I would be pretty put off. I really wouldn't ever want to imagine a future boyfriend of mine having been with guys, it would just change the whole way I saw him and I think if I had any feelings for him before he told me, they would be gone after that conversation, and I'd only be comfortable being friends with him. It's sad that people feel they have to hide or be ashamed of who they had been with, and I think it's probably something somebody should say in the beginning stages of a relationship just in case the other person has some sort of issue with it. Now, I have no problem with guys who have sex with guys, or bisexual guys, I just can't picture myself with a guy who isn't just solely attracted to women. :)

I have never had sex with a guy. I never want to, A man does absolutely nothing for me, in fact dudes are for the most part gross.. I'm not even slightly curious about anal or assholes or anything like that. I look at myself as a guy who would just like to experiment with a tgirl, primarily oral. I don't even know if I would go through with it once I got there. I love beautiful women and everything about them, and a beautiful woman who has something extra just turns me on. I have no fears about being labeled anything. I know what I am, and if given the choice I would always pick a GG. I am simply open to try and experiment.

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

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I dont know how conducive to the truth it is taking a survey with clients...cats will say anything to get the ass, to keep the ass. while getting the ass.

By the way, how difficult is it to suck cock "good" Sucking is an instinctive act and other than teeth getting in the way, has anybody been bad a cock sucking or had a bad cock sucking experience.

Finally, men do not think a blow job is a "sexual encounter" the ass and the pussy is the sexual encounter. A BJ is just passing the time until a guy gets the ass. I think semantics is part of your dilemma

they r all faggots and married with children

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Originally Posted by Nikka

they r all faggots and married with children

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Did you wake up with all the antagonistic rhythm today?

Or are you being sarcastic?

Why do most TS admirer/chasers wouldnt tell they had sex with a guy before?

Because they're cocksuckers AND liars!!!

Oh, and Buck, there are blow jobs, and then there are blowjobs....
Kathy, sweetheart, rest in peace, you will always be the best...

Why are you even asking??
Let's see, what is it saying about a TS provider if she has a belief that most men she sees as clients have had at least one prior sexual relationship with a male before, even if it was as an adolescent??

IMO too many tgirls are really insecure in their own sexuality and they project that insecurity onto MEN.

If I'm dating a woman who had a 'girlfriend' in college, does that mean she's really a closet LESBIAN?? smdh.

IMO if a gay man (prefers the emotional/sexual intimacy of other men) is still willing to pay a TRANNY ESCORT to have sex, professionally speaking, you as an escort should feel LUCKY because you're attracting clientele that normally wouldn't seek you out.

That's why I think I was such a homophobe before I had my psychological tranny cherry broken, I first went down on a tgirl and allowed a tgirl to make me cum.

Intuitively, most men know that ALL women, TG and GG, are superior shit talkers. They may say one thing, 'please don't judge me!', but when it comes to the men in their lives everything is a double standard.

If a TG escort thinks the majority of her clients are closeted fags, then what is a transgendered woman really???

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

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Ihave had sex with every possible identification of human of legal age that wanted to except transmen. I liked it all. I have no shame. if it makes me gay in someone's eyes I equaste it to the same person calling you a man. it's derived from a basic ignorance of human sexuality. Frankly, I understand you are all woman. I was taking to girl who hadnt started hormones and she was calling herself a "girl" I thought it sad. I mean she was a girl when she popped out of the womb. That said a penis is a male appendage and the contortions straight men go through to justify they are all straight amazes me. I dont bottom is a great one...wghat they only suck cock?

I joined a cheezy sex site and had some nudes up. I put them in a friend only folder i had so many straight guys msging wanting my ass. it was a good picture real but flattering . Things with sexuality generally are not of the extrme rigid black and white labels. if anyone would understand I would think it would berthe girls here who first hand had to confront the false definitions on gender and chose to be true to themselves rather than be a square peg painfully jammed in a round hole. There is a perception in men that it emascuates. that's bs I dont know anyone as willing to speak truth to power despite risks in their orivate and work life. I do know lots of peopel to scared to speak there mind. I have never had an issue sayng what I thought whether it was populat or not and think thats a far better measure of masculinity than number of guys I fucked or let fuck me. If anything it's emascualting to pretend one is soething one isnt to fit in better. Once in a while someone says something to me and I have np looking at them and saying its fucking great to not be hung up on sex. it's a sex act not a charactor definition.

So, I am not surprised they dont tell you for some you may be a gateway. It's shame based behavior for them still because of internal conflicts and peer standards. if ever you come to the east coasst I'd have to spend the first hr with you going over the men i slept with but I am an exibitionist and would be going into detail first therwas this timein bandcamp... lol. If no one is harmed there should be no shame or hesitancy in owning it. I also just remembered I owe you a picture of a very high mileage member:yayo: I feel bad for repressed people internal conflict is toxic.


Of course straight men like socking xcock so I am probably way off.....:ignore: gay straight bi who cares. it's sex. What defines sexuality in the general terms but not black and white isd who you can form emotional connections to. I would make a lousy ideal of societiy's homosexual even though I am good in bed with a guy...no electricity outsode of sex

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Originally Posted by Nikka

they r all faggots and married with children

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Kind of ugly language. Generally when you make all or nothing statements your a bigot..... feel free to insult me but they are your words. If you pause and think of sterotyes a seconfd amybe you can grow as a human being and loose some really useless hate. Some clients are gay in denial and some just arent peopel to be neatly stuck in a labeled package, For the life of me I really thought people who had probably faced being told their truth was a lie wouldnt be so quick to do the same to others. It isnt that saying what you said "hurts" anyone either it just makes you ugly frankly

LOL read the whole thread feel sorry for so many of you. You transcend and escape the false beliefs on gender held by society and turn around and carry the water when it comes to shaming others with false ignorant understanding of human sexuality... I am actually laughing it's so sad and so ironic. i guess on some level I expected personal experience would of been enlightening about how medival beliefs on gender and sexuality are in society

You know sometimes it could just be true?

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Originally Posted by allurstouse

LOL read the whole thread feel sorry for so many of you. You transcend and escape the false beliefs on gender held by society and turn around and carry the water when it comes to shaming others with false ignorant understanding of human sexuality... I am actually laughing it's so sad and so ironic. i guess on some level I expected personal experience would of been enlightening about how medival beliefs on gender and sexuality are in society

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you sir are gay and a faggot

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Originally Posted by buckjohnson

you sir are gay and a faggot

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lol!!:ignore:

Only swallowing is faggoty behavior btw.:dancing:

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

lol!!:ignore:

Only swallowing is faggoty behavior btw.:dancing:

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Then i must be gay :dancing:

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Originally Posted by KittyPride

Then i must be gay :dancing:

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The point I wa trying to make is the OP premise was slightly false. She took a survey in a situation where truth is not valued and thne came to a conclusion based on the falsehood, including the cock sucking skills of her clients. Anybody can suck a cock. not much skills involved there.

Great cock sucking joke. (partial)

A six year old and her sleepover friend look through the peephole of her parents door and watched her mother gloriously sucking her dad's dick. She turned to her friend and said "last week that bitch slapped the shit out of me for sucking my thumb". (Paul Mooney)

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Originally Posted by buckjohnson

you sir are gay and a faggot

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heal thyself
http://daily-grind.net/troll-psychol...rnet-bullying/

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Originally Posted by buckjohnson

I dont know how conducive to the truth it is taking a survey with clients...cats will say anything to get the ass, to keep the ass. while getting the ass.

By the way, how difficult is it to suck cock "good" Sucking is an instinctive act and other than teeth getting in the way, has anybody been bad a cock sucking or had a bad cock sucking experience.

Finally, men do not think a blow job is a "sexual encounter" the ass and the pussy is the sexual encounter. A BJ is just passing the time until a guy gets the ass. I think semantics is part of your dilemma

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they dont really have to do or say anything to get sex...thats the whole point of seeing an escort.easy,painless and impersonal sexual encounters

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Originally Posted by allurstouse

Ihave had sex with every possible identification of human of legal age that wanted to except transmen. I liked it all. I have no shame. if it makes me gay in someone's eyes I equaste it to the same person calling you a man. it's derived from a basic ignorance of human sexuality. Frankly, I understand you are all woman. I was taking to girl who hadnt started hormones and she was calling herself a "girl" I thought it sad. I mean she was a girl when she popped out of the womb. That said a penis is a male appendage and the contortions straight men go through to justify they are all straight amazes me. I dont bottom is a great one...wghat they only suck cock?

I joined a cheezy sex site and had some nudes up. I put them in a friend only folder i had so many straight guys msging wanting my ass. it was a good picture real but flattering . Things with sexuality generally are not of the extrme rigid black and white labels. if anyone would understand I would think it would berthe girls here who first hand had to confront the false definitions on gender and chose to be true to themselves rather than be a square peg painfully jammed in a round hole. There is a perception in men that it emascuates. that's bs I dont know anyone as willing to speak truth to power despite risks in their orivate and work life. I do know lots of peopel to scared to speak there mind. I have never had an issue sayng what I thought whether it was populat or not and think thats a far better measure of masculinity than number of guys I fucked or let fuck me. If anything it's emascualting to pretend one is soething one isnt to fit in better. Once in a while someone says something to me and I have np looking at them and saying its fucking great to not be hung up on sex. it's a sex act not a charactor definition.

So, I am not surprised they dont tell you for some you may be a gateway. It's shame based behavior for them still because of internal conflicts and peer standards. if ever you come to the east coasst I'd have to spend the first hr with you going over the men i slept with but I am an exibitionist and would be going into detail first therwas this timein bandcamp... lol. If no one is harmed there should be no shame or hesitancy in owning it. I also just remembered I owe you a picture of a very high mileage member:yayo: I feel bad for repressed people internal conflict is toxic.


Of course straight men like socking xcock so I am probably way off.....:ignore: gay straight bi who cares. it's sex. What defines sexuality in the general terms but not black and white isd who you can form emotional connections to. I would make a lousy ideal of societiy's homosexual even though I am good in bed with a guy...no electricity outsode of sex

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bdsm playdate with ftm tommorow night so no longer asll true. ZAm I a faggot or is he a self hating dyke min denail though...so confusing if you are enough to think about it

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Originally Posted by buckjohnson

Finally, men do not think a blow job is a "sexual encounter" the ass and the pussy is the sexual encounter. A BJ is just passing the time until a guy gets the ass. I think semantics is part of your dilemma

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that is some amazing gynnastics but i guees it would allow a straight guy to like dick because he was bored

the reason why im asking if they had sex with guys before is first it turns me on lol
and second if they say yes most probably they are powerbottoms in bed so i would know what to do by then *wink*

Do you mean with guys or do you mean with TS? Crucial difference. If i were to meet you I'd admit the TS bit - and read on I'm admitting the other but with qualifications. (I have actually tried it with guys and it was NOT my thing, You gotta find out these things. Big turn off.)

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Originally Posted by Prospero

Do you mean with guys or do you mean with TS? Crucial difference. If i were to meet you I'd admit the TS bit - and read on I'm admitting the other but with qualifications. (I have actually tried it with guys and it was NOT my thing, You gotta find out these things. Big turn off.)

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with the guys i find it so HOT! :jerkoff

thats why when they confest after the session that they did had sexual encounter with guys before i tell them why just now, i could have fucked you much better if you told me before for i find it very sexy

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I d be so annoyed having sex with an escort who dabbles in low grade psychology. More sucky less talky please

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Originally Posted by londonpirate

I d be so annoyed having sex with an escort who dabbles in low grade psychology. More sucky less talky please

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thats weird i was going to say the same thing to you...shut up and stuff a dick in it..

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Originally Posted by buckjohnson

The point I wa trying to make is the OP premise was slightly false. She took a survey in a situation where truth is not valued and thne came to a conclusion based on the falsehood, including the cock sucking skills of her clients. Anybody can suck a cock. not much skills involved there.

Great cock sucking joke. (partial)

A six year old and her sleepover friend look through the peephole of her parents door and watched her mother gloriously sucking her dad's dick. She turned to her friend and said "last week that bitch slapped the shit out of me for sucking my thumb". (Paul Mooney)

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You can't be serious. lol

That's nonsense. There is an incredible amount of technique and skill that can go into giving oral. You must be really missing out if you think everyone's the same.

And not only are some people great at it, but some people are horrible at it.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

You can't be serious. lol

That's nonsense. There is an incredible amount of technique and skill that can go into giving oral. You must be really missing out if you think everyone's the same.

And not only are some people great at it, but some people are horrible at it.

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truly true. I thought teeth were always bad till a gf was barely touching me with them on the way up. I've had the pleausre of being on both end of the exercise and it is a skill and and an integral part of sex not an afterthought out of boredom and the nice thing is everyone involved knows the quality of the effort it just stands out is all:hide-1: yah just cant fake an erection! I think with the exception of those here only for porn there are two kinds of people lurking on this forum those that have given head and those that lie

Because they want girls to think they are straight, but in reality they are bisexual but ashame to admit it.

im a 24 yr old guy who liked/likes girls very much and lately been into ts.....but ts only......there is nothing that turns me on about a guy sexualy, nothing about his physicall

in my opinion, a ts can please a guy sexualy better than a women only bc they once were a man and to a certain level know what a man likes.....i mean i can put in my perspective, if im sucking a pussy im never really 100% if im doing it right, as i never had one and dont really know how it feel.....meanwhile for a TS, they can easily give the best bjs because they have/had a cock and know what it requires for it to be satisfied....

but still even though i like to be bottomed every now and then by a ts, i would never imagine having sex with a guy as im not attracted to men

still i cant dare to ever tell anyone about the ts fantasy (even tried only once), my family, friends or anyone, as i might be looked as gay (which for my society is WRONG)......even though I totally dont feel like gay (if i consider that im not attracted to guys but still would have sex with a pretty TS before than with a pretty girl, probably because its still a fantasy), am i gay or not?


ive read a lot of things about this, but still dont know dow to define this inbetween.

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

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i'm going to guess you're an escort/sex worker. most men don't see the point of being truthful to someone in your line of work due to the connotations that come with that (legality, embarrassment etc). also, it's likely the "client" is there to have sex, not seeking legal advise, so truth isn't really an issue. as a matter of fact, your line of work requires one seek truth only in spoonfuls, and work focus more on the fantasy at hand.

if you were a lawyer, legal adviser, doctor or such, it's likely the men would be truthful from the get go. i'd chalk it down as an occupational hazard and not worry too much about it. nice attempt at a discussion though

I continue to find it curious that TS girls will insist that men who enjoy their sexuality are bi-sexual. I do not claim to be straight. But I know from trying sex with men that i am certainly not bisexual. I enjoy sex with GGs and with TS girls and, occasionally, with a very convincing TV. I have genuinely plumbed the depths of my own sexual identity to see if i am attracted to men as men and I find that I really am not. I feel convinced this must be true for many other men here. There is no easy label for us (confused?) but I think bisexuality is not accurate. A bisexual - as far as I am aware - is someone who is attracted to men and women (and those in between).

I agree with Propsero (once again). I have stablished early on that i m not gay, i m just not attracted to men. I like gg and ts. The latter need to be convincing as women, not just a shaved guy with a wig. They need to have a feminine personality. Put it simply, i want a passable woman with a penis.
When i used to go see escorts, i did it to relax and have fn, not to be subject to questioning about my life and sexuality. Found those escorts that were too chatty and inquisitive a big turn off and , despite not having met her, it seems alyssa fits that bill.. I know it might sound crazy but i expect some discretion and privacy.
Keep calling your clients powerbottoms and gays, i m sure they ll come beack...not.
Find it also very ironic that ts women want to be recognised as women (and i certainly see them as such) but some call their clients gay. Well, what does that make you alyssa? Yes, a man....

I think i know who the confused one is here. In some countries, homosexuality is not accepted, gay men are seen as inherently feminine and are only accepted if they transition (see iran). I ve certainly met thai ladyboys who told me they didnt see themselves as women but that it was easier for them that way. Since you're in the business of discussing personal matters, alyssa, are you a ts or just a confused young gay man?

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Originally Posted by Prospero

I continue to find it curious that TS girls will insist that men who enjoy their sexuality are bi-sexual. I do not claim to be straight. But I know from trying sex with men that i am certainly not bisexual. I enjoy sex with GGs and with TS girls and, occasionally, with a very convincing TV. I have genuinely plumbed the depths of my own sexual identity to see if i am attracted to men as men and I find that I really am not. I feel convinced this must be true for many other men here. There is no easy label for us (confused?) but I think bisexuality is not accurate. A bisexual - as far as I am aware - is someone who is attracted to men and women (and those in between).

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The labels are the problem. They don't reflect the range of human sexuality. They are social labels not really accurate biological ones. Not straight is probably a far better descripitive term for anyone who has ever thought about dick than bi sexual and being heteroflexible*( i love that one) I learned a lot of straight guys are often DL closet cases and not straight. I dont mean majorities just a signifigant enough number to make me believe the "not straight" catagory is bigger than admmitted.

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Originally Posted by bluesoul

i'm going to guess you're an escort/sex worker. most men don't see the point of being truthful to someone in your line of work due to the connotations that come with that (legality, embarrassment etc). also, it's likely the "client" is there to have sex, not seeking legal advise, so truth isn't really an issue. as a matter of fact, your line of work requires one seek truth only in spoonfuls, and work focus more on the fantasy at hand.

if you were a lawyer, legal adviser, doctor or such, it's likely the men would be truthful from the get go. i'd chalk it down as an occupational hazard and not worry too much about it. nice attempt at a discussion though

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i understand your point. i think the sad thing is people arent truthful because they are offten ashamed of themselves or worried about peer judgement. A truly crappy existence imo.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

thats weird i was going to say the same thing to you...shut up and stuff a dick in it..

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I just spit coffee out my nose I was laughing so hard I missed this yesterday. 8 words to completely and totally eviscerate. You have a gift. He wont get an erection for a month

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.