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Does he have shot win the republican nominee? I could see him using "Obama, you're fired" as a campaign slogan. And he is willing to spend 600 million dollars for advertisement. I don't think the republicans are too fond of this guy in the first place but I could be wrong.
I'm guessing it'll be Mitt Romney. He, well, looks presidential. It's all in the look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
Ya need to be tall (Mitt is over 6 feet) and have a full head of hair. Policies are irrelevant -- ha! ha! What matters is height, is hair -- ha! ha!
republican's go by who's turn. Romney has passed his healthcare thing so I don't think he'll be running. How about
YouTube - WCW HULK HOGAN FOR PRESIDENT
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Not a chance. Perhaps I can see him as ambassador to China...that would be interesting given he despises the Chineese, or maybe as head of the NLRB beating the public sector unions into submission. LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
he will not be the nominee.
Again, it'll be Mitt. And, too, he's backed the by the Koch brothers. Ya know, the two brothers who run America -- :)
Tea Party Billionaire David Koch Hosted One Of Mitt Romney’s First Fundraisers For 2012 Campaign
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/...david_koch.jpgLast year, the New York Times revealed that petrochemical billionaire David Koch was among a small group of multibillionaires quietly promoting a presidential candidacy for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Today, a report by investigative journalist Peter Stone states that Koch actually hosted Romney last summer for one of his first large fundraising parties:Romney’s team boasts veteran bigwig bundlers such as Woody Johnson, who owns the New York Jets; Wayne Berman, who chairs the lobbying firm Ogilvy Government Relations; and David Koch of Koch Industries. This trio and other big bundlers have done yeoman’s work already. Last August, Koch and his wife hosted an evening soiree at their home in the Hamptons for Romney. Since the November elections, Romney has done about one conference call a month with a nationwide group of some 300 fundraisers to keep them in the loop.The Koch brothers have historically played a key role in selecting GOP candidates. Last year, they guided a large contingent of climate change-denying candidates to victory using their Tea Party “Americans for Prosperity” and “No Climate Tax” front groups.
During the ’90s, Koch heavily supported Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole. At one point, Koch “turned his Gatsbyish estate in Southampton, New York, into the site for celebrating Dole’s 72nd birthday in July 1995, raising $150,000 for his campaign.” Dole reciprocated throughout his career; at one point offering legislation to suppress an investigation into Koch Industries’ massive theft of oil from Indian reservations and public lands.
Glad to see Trump is sticking to important issues -- ha! ha! :crazy
YouTube - Donald Trump Wants to See Obama's Birth Certificate
He said some interesting things until he got down to the birther thing I mean really come on my dude.
I'm curious....what's your take on the birth certificate thing ? And what did Trump say that offends you so much? He said he felt Obama was born here, but says every one of us Americans has to present a birth certificate for a variety of things. Basicaly he said show the damn thing and let's move on....I don't find that outrageous ........not in the least. I urge you...go to the post office for a passport and take with you a birth announcment...see how far you get. Even Tingles Matthews said..."just show the damn thing"Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
Funny....the press dug into Bush's past for all sorts of shit....A DUI in Mass, some indiscretions while he was in his 20's,
every day he spent in the Air National Guard, and good for them....that's thier job....but strangely they lost all intellectual curiosity when Obama entered the scene...That's all I'm sayin'. Suddenly everything changed. It used to be we all said, regardless of party...that a politician is generally lying when his lips start moving, but you're perfectly willing to put that on hold for Obama, and just take what he tells you as gospel.... Curious.
To what official body does is the president to show his birth certificate? What will make you happy. The republican governor of HA has inspected the certificate. The hospital has had it photocopied and you can find it on the web. It's the same kind of certificate that any Hawaiian shows to obtain a visa or a passport. I must admit, there's not much here to challenge the intellect or spur one's intellectual curiosity. Of course if you want to stir the dumbasses of the republican base, that's another thing.
It will never happen. That guy has way to many skeletons in his closet. I would however love to see him make it on the POTUS' salary and open all his financial records. I'm sure his records alone would tank his chances. They poured through both of the obamas histories and I seriously doubt they are anywhere near as shady as TrumpQuote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
As you know I am not a citizen of the USA -was there some talk of General Petraeus going into politics? The view here is that Palin is too much of a liability so I think we can count her out although she might have a run at the nomination. My guess is that there is a Governor out there somewhere who might emerge during the nomination process rather like Clinton did in the 90s. but you people probably know more about it than I do.
The "Birther" thing is just another republican tool of hate to keep the base fired up. And the stupid weak minded conservatives are buying it. I believe even the republicans know in their hearts that Obama was born in the USA. But it is a way to spread more hate for the right wing base, so they keep pushing the lie anyway. It's called propaganda. Hell it worked for Hitler.
The man has shown the same photocopy of his birth certificate that every president has shown to prove they were a citizen and eligible to run for the office. The press (Except FoxGOP of course) have even produced announcements of Obama's birth from the ORIGINAL newspaper at the time he was born. I suppose his mom had a master plan way back then that Barack would someday run for president, so they faked the announcement to be prepared all these years later. How stupid can right wingers be?
Hey right wingers. He's a citizen already. He HAS proved it. Accept it, get over yourselves, and move on to important issues.
Trump doesn't stand a chance in hell of being president. He can bull shit like a republican, but his record is way too dirty. He is rich, but he is in debt up to his groundhog hairdo. He almost lost is ass a few years ago but got backing from the guys with crooked noses, (if ya knows wut I means). Trump will be president when FoxGOP channel finally tells one item of truth. Meaning when the earth explodes, and Beck's last words are, "UH OH! WE'RE FUCKED".
Certificate of Live Birth
A certificate of live birth may have been given to your parents before leaving the hospital after you were born. However, this has not been certified by your state's Department of Human Services.
Evidence of Citizenship
To get a U.S. passport, you must have primary evidence of U.S. citizenship. A certified birth certificate should satisfy this requirement, but a certificate of live birth will not.
He couldn't get a passport with the document he provided. He HASN"T proved shit, only that he is hiding something.
Bullshit. It's exactly the document every Hawaiian uses to obtain a passport.Quote:
He couldn't get a passport with the document he provided.
This is silly -- and racist. And wasn't John McCain born in Panama? Yes! A Naval Air Station. But still. And: Sarah Palin. Anyone question where she was born? Maybe it was Canada and her parents slipped across the border. And, too, I mean, was Ronnie Reagan born in America? Was his country of birth ever questioned? What about Jimmy Carter? Gerry Ford? What about tricky dicky Nixon? What about Kennedy? Maybe, just maybe he was born in Ireland. I mean, Georgie Washington was born in a British colony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faldur
Your as wrong as you could be, you could NEVER obtain a US Passport in any of the 53 States Obama has campaigned in. NEVER, EVER its un-questionable a certificate of live birth blessed by the fricking Pope will get you a free cup of coffee as you leave the post office, and thats it!Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Taken from the US Passport Office..http://travel.state.gov/passport/get...tml#step3first
3.Submit Evidence of U.S. Citizenship
When applying for a U.S. passport in person, evidence of U.S. citizenship must be submitted with Form DS-11. All documentation submitted as citizenship evidence will be returned to you. These documents will be delivered with your newly issued U.S. passport or in a separate mailing.
Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):
Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport
Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*
Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
Naturalization Certificate
Certificate of Citizenship
*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.
Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant's parent(s). For more information, please see New Requirement for all U.S. Birth Certificates.
NOTE: If you do not have primary evidence of U.S. citizenship or your U.S. birth certificate does not meet the requirements, please see Secondary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship.
McCain had to submit his birth certificate, there was questions about where he was born. He needed to be born on the base to qualify to be a US Citizen. Why is that so damned difficult for someone to understand. There are requirements in life, deal with it.
Racist? What are you an idiot?
From the above link:*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.
Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant's parent(s). For more information, please see New Requirement for all U.S. Birth Certificates.
The republican Governor has confirmed that Obama's certificate is real and that it has the raised embossed seal.
Thats a beautiful UNSIGNED document Trish, they should be proud of it. You would get laughed out of the passport office. There is day and night difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate. I can only direct you to the post office if you want proof, bring an unsigned Cert of Live birth and see how far you get in the passport process.
Who signed yours. LMAO Birth certificates are either signed or sealed. Rarely both. As you can see by your own link the current policy is to have them sealed.
Mine was signed by Dorothy E. Geuleu, (sorry handwriting so sloppy hard to make out), and Roy O. Gilbertnal, (again sorry no written name, just signatures). They were the listed "Certifying Registrar's", the county recorder listed is Ray E. Lee.
It is racist. If Obama were a white male, well, this birther bullshit would've never got off the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faldur
It's an attempt to appeal to what Martin Luther King Jr. described as: unconscious or inadvertent racists.
Plus it's conspiracy nonsense.
Focus on what Obama is doing or not doing. Focus on policy.
Good for you. Your children or grandchildren only need the seal, as per the document you linked.
you are so over sensitive about this it lends itself to suspicion. The Republican governor is full of shit, and with all due respect....so are you. The new Democratic governer...(you know, the fat guy that looks like he just came from a Dead concert) Abercrombie was going to make it his bussiness to put all this nonsence to rest. Now be mindful he was a very close ally of Barry....so he let the word go forth that as the State's Chief executive...he wanted the birth cirtificate and he wanted it ASAP....Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
"snap it up" as Tingles Matthews cheered him on ..Well my dear...here's the result of that search...I link to the NY Daily News below...
Incredulously...after making a huge deal about embarking on his search, then coming up empty...he lashes out at those who are perplexed !! What a fat fool ! So...your contention that the Republican Governor verfied the document is the biggest fail of all time. It may make that Guiness book !! LOL
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...resident-obama
Ben....don't cheap shot, or I'll copy and paste you to death !! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben
I have said it before, and have yet to be proven wrong....we know less about this man than any President in 100 years. Does it make him a communist? NO. Does it make him a Kenyan ? Absolutely NOT . Does it make him a Manchurian Candidate...of course NOT....but I can go on any search engine and read Millard Fillmore's thesis, and a complete history of his life from birth to death. Since you're calling me a racist....you need to back it up. So your homework assignment is to fill in the many gaps in Obama's life. Certainly your left wing buddy Glen Greenwald should be able to help you in that regard...But If you can't....I'd like an aplology for questioning my curiosity
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For the record....I personally have no dog in the birther fight...I think it's a waste of time, but those like you who have no explanation for the lack of it...or many other documents, reach for the tried and true race card. The efforts of the desperate !
What other president was dogged out like this before? None of the previous 43 presidents were questioned about there birth certificate. But they were white of course. And what other president has been called a secret muslim before? Whoops none of the 43 before Obama they were white. I have no issues with people that question his policies but thus birth certificate BS and muslim shit is nothing more than right wing tactic to drum up hate and fear.Quote:
Originally Posted by onmyknees
With all due resect, onmyknees, you're full of shit. (BTW I suppose you don't like Chris Christie then, 'cause he's a fat fuck. How many different fucking prejudices can reside in one skull? oops but Christie's a republican, so I'm sure you'll make an exception)
OMG..are you serious? They sure the fuck did question McCain about his birthplace. You must have missed that news flash....BTW McCain's father was on active duty when he was born on a military base...which is US territory. And the NYT completely fabricated a story about him having an affair with a staffer during the campaign...who now has a liable suit against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
You really have to get a clue....they sent teams of reporters to Alaska to search every piece of paper from the time she was in High School to the day she was named VP candidate. Shit...some left wing loon even moved right next door to her...so these phoney cries about Obama being sooooooooooooooooooooo mistreated are frankly a fucking joke. Look...the press got down on it's collective knees and performed journalistic fellatio on this guy, and it really did a dis-service to him. He was never vetted, thus these questions presist.
And as far as all the other presidents....many had long military distinguished careers and thier place of birth was never an issue. They were readily avaibale...as were all those who were not in the military....in fact I'll bet I could find them all online. So that's another red herring.
OK...now answer me this Mr. I'll play the race card everytime I don't have an answer.....why has he (obama) fought this in court numerous times? And do you know the first person to challange this in court??? Let me inform you. Alan Keyes..a black man....so your bogus cries of racism are hollow. Stick them right there in the back closet next to Obama's birth cirtificate. LOL
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Look...it's either 2 things at this point..Obama is either the supreme
Machiavellian...and will lay the paper work on us once all the birthers are about to go insane, and do so with a big smile...........OR he doesn't have it and can't produce it. It can't be anything but those 2 possibilities, but race has nothing to do with it.....but keep using that. It worked well against the Tea Parties !
Or he's already produced a legal birth certificate and all you deniers are just having a circle jerk.Quote:
Look...it's either 2 things at this point (...) OR (...). It can't be anything but those 2 possibilities...
I dont understand why this is such a toxic issue among Americans. We have had three Prime Ministers who were half-American and one who part of his life in Canada before he came to the UK, joined the Tories and became PM. I am not even sure I understand WHY people born in a foreign country -eg Schwarzenegger- cannot run for the Presidency: where do you think HIS loyalties lie, in Vienna? I have never heard of a 'live birth' certificate? Maybe from now on you will need a video of your birth to prove it, though I guess that can be forged by some supergeek in Idaho...
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
The whole birther issue is a pathetic political ploy. And, too, it's an attempt to instill fear in voters. Ya know, Obama is a "secret" Marxist, a "secret" Muslim. Ya know, we should all be afraid. And plus he could be an "angry" black man. Gimme a break. It's patently racist. And xenophobic.
You know, Obama is not only black but he could be a foreigner too. So we should all be afraid. It's completely disgusting. (I mean, there are some absolute crackpots who really believe that Obama is the Anti-Christ.)
Again, if Obama were a white male, well, none of this would've got off the ground.
And: was Obama's mom in on the conspiracy?????????
The Republican Party is playing to the crazies -- in its voting base. Rather than correcting those who think he was born in Kenya, well, the Republicans want to use them. Much like they've been using white supremacists since Nixon's Southern strategy.
Lol, I have to say Trump has played the main stream press like a pro. Releasing a certificate of live birth on Monday, the press was foaming at the mouth "He has released an un-official document!!" Only to come back with the official document a day later.
Oh the hypocrisy, you progressives are far to much fun. Were going to have to keep you around.
He has no documentation whatsoever for that "hair."
Right? How long you figure that comb over takes him? I think half of that shit is pulled up for his lower back.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Here's a comical pic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faldur
And the hair might be odd and bad. But the wife is certainly hot. Man! She would be an amazing looking shemale. Maybe she is -- ha! ha! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben