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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
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Originally Posted by peggygee
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Originally Posted by Bunzee
i often think about it too what do tgirls do when they get older ... would love to hear from older girls about this ...
I'm one of the oldest women that I know of. Of the women that I came up
with, of my contemporaries all are dead, and none died of old age or
natural causes.
Back in the day, I was wild and adventurous, engaged in a lot of "sex,
drugs, and rock and roll." But I also knew that I wanted to live a long
time, and that was a possibilty given the genetics on both sides of my
family.
Thus I made a good foundation for the future by furthering my education,
seeking counselling on things that troubled me, and basically solving
problems in my life that I had the ability too solve.
As a result many of the goals that I strived for in life have been achieved.
I was able to obtain GRS, I'm clean and sober, I work a mainstream job.
Basically I have assimilated, and I'm just a regular Black woman, which
was pretty much what I desired from the onset.
Today, I observe and speak with quite a few younger transwomen, who
by choice or necessity seem to live only for today.
They appear to live as if their mantra was
'Live fast, die young and leave a
good looking corpse'
With all due respect, after the 3 or so years you've been here, I really have to question what the big motivation is behind all of the endorsing you do of SRS. I do know that for for some older TS, its a jealousy/"misery loves company" thing. At this point, I think the urgency for SRS, and even stealth, is nowhere close to what it was when you transitioned. The idea that SRS makes you "complete" is disappearing. The HBS are borderline offensive, although they were indeed all we had to legitimize our yearning to make a little progress for so long. Back in the day, the first thing they did when you said you wanted to transition was give you an orchi, which in retrospect is a very extreme course of action. In contrast, now it's generally the second to last thing girls do.
I also think stats on TS are probably some of the most inaccurate of all. Most TS aren't coming forward to actually
say they're TS, unless they work in the adult industry where it only behooves them. In addition, most of the girls doing well in that industry, like most of the ones who regularly post here, are beating the odds of your observation. Stealth girls don't share info. Younger TS have more love and support from they're families and won't face these same struggles that the girls before them did.
And how many not-so-attractive late bloomers do we see, who live to a ripe old age but couldn't pass if they're lives depended on it? They lived 75% of their lives as men, and now they want to champion the cause of going to a 3rd world country and buying a firecracker pussy with their 401k money. But what they do, inadvertently or not, is make us all look like freaks. Look at the UK where they've made srs part of their social medicine program. They're sending brick after dickless brick into the world, and they talk like they represent anyone more than themselves.
So I dunno, Peggy. Maybe you're being helpful, but I think these anecdotes you often share are are a bit insular, if not sanctimonious at times. I have to wonder if you're not romanticizing more about being a crusader than you are being an instrument of practical change. Tell me more about what you do for your sisters beyond copy and paste stuff onto forums, and perhaps you'll change my perspective.
Are there potential trappings in the sex worker lifestyle? Yes. But many GGs and gay men are up against the same thing, and no operation is the cure-all. And plenty of pre-ops, in fact, do just fine.
Nicole, if I am not mistaken the question was "What happens to tgirls when
they get old(er)?", and the followup question:
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Originally Posted by Bunzee
i often think about it too what do tgirls do when they get older ... would love to hear from older girls about this ...
Not what are "the pros and con or merits of GRS."
To those questions I shared some of my insights as an older transwoman. I
pointed out that I furthered my education, garnered marketable skills, got
clean and sober, and basically live a mainstream life.
That I had GRS was mentioned as an aside, and by no means was the main
theme of my response.
I will agree with you that GRS isn't appropriate for everyone, indeed
transitioning isn't indicated for everyone. Thus by no means am I imploring, or
encouraging anyone to have GRS as that is a very personal, and life-altering
decision that does not impact me.
I will say now, I will most likely say again in the future that it was the
appropriate course of action and the right thing
for me, and is by no
means a case of :
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I do know that for for some older TS, its a jealousy/"misery loves company" thing.
I will add that though I am now a middle-aged woman, that I transitioned at
a relatively young age, indeed I have been full-time nearly 40 years.
Which is yet another reason why I don't have to copy and paste responses. I
have done formal academic study on the topic of transsexuality, and I have
lived it the majority of my life.
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Tell me more about what you do for your sisters beyond copy and paste stuff onto forums, and perhaps you'll change my perspective.
I will also say on the point above that I feel that my record speaks for itself,
the thousands of posts that I have made on this and other sites, as well as
my own web site tell the tale. And I have always felt that it was crass to blow
your own horn about any charitable or phillantropic contributions that one has
made.
Well I'm hoping that I have sufficiently answering your concerns, and perhaps
we may all may return to addressing the topic at hand, which is
"What
happens to tgirls when they get old(er)?".