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just come out of a recent 1 with a tgirl,and i must admit it as left me quite scared.
all she seemed to be interested in was money.
i was just wondering what other people"s opinions are on this subject,i hear some girls slagging the guys off and vice versa
it is prob more difficult for me to find someone who is honest as well because normally i"m attracted to asian girls,and like it or not most of them seem to be gold diggers.
i may just stick to gg in futrue less headache lol
It's best to deal with people, be they t-girl or g-girl on an individual basis. Your experience with one shouldn't inform your experience with the next. You can't accurately asses everyone in any group with a shared trait, be they transgendered women, or asians.
I think most woman can be money motivated TG or GG.
Unfortunatly a lot of transwomen get a little wrapped up in cash. It can be xpensive if you want to have surgeries to make yourself more your ideal and this leads to a certain drive to accumulate money. It is by no means exclusiv to ts girls but xperience tells me that you do tend to see that as a driving motivator in a lot of them.
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Originally Posted by raybbaby
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Originally Posted by raybbaby
put a shirt on
Andy,
Thats a bunch of bullshit. What did you do? Take the first TS hooker you had sex with and ask her to be your girlfriend?
My last two girlfriends were both Asians, and I love them both. Neither of them used me for money, but then again, niether one of them were hookers.
Ive never been in a relationship with a ts but i believe it could work..just remember one thing its how YOU feel about the other person not what everyone thinks
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Originally Posted by dan_drade
personally think your the 1 talking bullshit but hey ho not going to get into a war,
if you dont think most asian ts are in it for the money,then you need to get your head out of the clouds.
and btw she was not a escort,i met her on a dating site,mind no doubt she as escorted in the past,i have no problems with that anyway,just the constant lies that drove me mad
If your hanging around HA, most of the women who post here are here for the business. You have to look in other places, and not just places where TG hang. You woul dbe surprised how many transgendered women are looking for someone nice, like any other woman. ANd they turn up in places other than bars.
Have those of you who had bad experiences with transwomen considered that you simply choose the wrong women?
Let me put it this way. If you choose a woman GG or TS who is beautiful, glamorous and has expensive taste, and cosmetic surgery, and is highly educated... what do you expect? A woman who spends that much on maintaining herself, is going to expect allot of a boyfriend.
It would be like me getting in a relationship with a man who has bad hygiene and expecting him to change. People don't change for relationships. You can't make a ho into a housewife, she has to become one by herself.
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I try to tell the guys this all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendaQG
True definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over
and expecting different results.
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maybe theyre trying to be scientific about itQuote:
Originally Posted by peggygee
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yes! they do work1
I think raybbaby is right and you can't take a few experiences with TG and make a generalization that TG act mostly in a certain way. But it sure is tempting ! Like the OP, I feel it may be simpler with GG -- on the average -- in that the chances of things going smoothly are better. That's just been my limited observation.
Sure they can work, if both individuals are willing to put in the effort. TG or GG relationships are about trust, respect and honesty. I've never been in a relationship with a TG, and I'm sure that there are plenty of complications, bug GG's aren't exactly simple either. When it comes to relationships thought, I think if both people are honest and open then it can work out.
A friend of mine who's an unabashed romantic told me once that all relationships end... except for "The One". I don't necessarily believe in "The One", but I think she's got a point.
not exactly clearing things up here, but I think two questions are necessary to throw this into perspective:
1.) how do you define 'work'?
is it based on a set amount of time 'together'?
is it based on some arbitrary level of commitment?
-get married?
-move in together?
-something else?
2.) do you think relationships work?
not to come across as facetious, but how many relationships work, period?(gg/m, m/m, gg/gg, ts/m, ts/gg, ts/ts, whatever combos omitted...)
You frequently hear the stat (no idea about the accuracy of it...) that ~50% of marriages end in divorce. but, for each marriage, there was likely a handful of relationships preceding that marriage (for either partner) that didn't 'work'. And even after that, ~1/2 of those marriages don't 'work' (and who's to say that every couple who doesn't get divorced has a 'working' marriage?)
Not trying to pick fights or anything here, so please don't take this that way. I'm just reminded of my time in college, when I had a couple friends in 'open' relationships. No one every really said anything directly to them, but behind their backs, it was frequently whispered that open relationships don't 'work'. I was still a bit sheltered at the time, so this made sense to me then, but later when I looked back on it, I don't think any of the nay-sayers remained in a relationship with the same person, so I began to wonder if any relationship 'works'.
Again, not trying to pick a fight or cause trouble or anything, but to a certain extent, I think the OP's question needs some qualifiers in there...
Oh I think I'll just sit back and watch this one.
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Originally Posted by lochaber
i think people look for differnat things
but if like me your looking for a serious relationship,then it is a lot more simple to find it with a gg.
not knocking anyone on here,but that as been my expericance.
for example,most of the asian girls are after money or visas.
and the few ts girls i have met over here,hvae not really loved themselves,so i dont see how they could love anyone else.
the others are mainly escorts,and i could never date a escort,just would never work.
i know the 1 ts in america who is the most beautifull girl inside and out,now if i met someone like that then im sure it could work,but i cant help feeling that is a rare thing .
I am involved and feel that both GG's and TG's have emotional issues and personal journeys that effect how they approach personal interactions. Chasing demons is almost always losing battle.
nope
Depending on the individuals involved..sure it can work. As someone else pointed out also - it all comes down to your personal interpretation of what a "working relationship" consists of.
People are people. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
I was in relationships with 2 different TGs when I was in my early to mid 20s. Both were around the same age as me. Both were very nice people, but both had rather complex issues, besides them dealing with the obvious in their life. It is true, looking back, that both were more money-oriented than any GG girl I have ever dated. Looking back, I am not sure where the love with money comes from, but most likely has to do with the hormones and such.
Both girls had issues that I wasn't ready to deal with at the time. I am now married to a GG and am about 10 years older, and looking back, am still not sure if I could deal with those issues now. At first, I thought it was me being immature and being caught up in a different world.
At times, both of the TGs I dated were really, really nice people and the sex was awesome, but the head games, the emotional outbursts, and the whole TG world were too much for me.
I am not saying a relationship with a TG won't work out, because there are thousands that do work out, but I was 0 for 2.
Have you ever been in a relationship with a girl? I'm sure you'll probably have similiar feelings.
I have been very happy in a relationship for about 2 years now and before my current boyfriend I was in 2 relationships that lasted 4 years each.
every relationship has its challenges and each individual is different be it gg or ts. and lets not forget that men do come with their own special issues as well.
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Originally Posted by pittsburghadmirer
Impossible to answer with a general 'yes' or 'no'. Relationships work or don't work- it depends on the partners. It would be dumb to make a blanket statement.
This question is one that will always have a ton of variations in regards to an answer. I can sit up here and type to you all that they DO work, or that they DON'T work but in all honesty I'm talking about things related to me, how can I tell you what will work for you.
IMO the women on this forum are the complete opposite of the women you get grabbing your dick every chance they get at a pickup bar. These women typing on here [IMO] are sitting or laying in bed on a laptop or desktop keyboard in front of them relaxed, sober, and willing to read & write to you dudes about their feelings. Try getting that shit at a party, a club, a beach gathering, etc. You'll most likely fail.
If I had a quarter for each guy that sat in a party telling me how the girl I just saw jump in a car across the street after I parked to give a quick $40 b/j was their dream chick I'd write NYCE a check and send him to South America on a well deserved vacation for a year all expenses paid.
Instead of asking if relationships work between transgendered women and men interested in them ask yourselves this:
- When a TS calls you around noon and asks you if you want to go to the beach do you hesitate or do you say you'll be on your way in a few?
When a TS calls you and you're out with your GG girl/wife & kids, or your buds at some male bonding bullshit and wants to see you do you run through excuses to brush them off or are you honest with them knowing it might definitely ruin your chance of having anything with them later but keeping a friendship (which should be more important to you!!!)
When a TS you know and talk to on a regular basis sees you out shopping during the daytime do you completely ignore her and try to foolishly explain yourself later or do you walk up say hello, have a brief convo, and go about your business [treating her how you'd like to be treated]
Things like this are things that need to be answered before threads like these can be taken seriously. And please don't think because I'm typing this fucking mini novel I am innocent of any of those questions above. There are some women on this very board I've called up in the middle of the day to take to lunch, go to a movie, run to a store for a sale, etc. and their are some I've completed avoided doing those things with because of my foolish fear of how I'd be perceived with someone in early stages of transition. I'm no saint, far from it, but at least I'm being honest about it.
When you can answer shit like that you'll have YOUR answer.
i was like married to tgirl for seven years and they were great i was the one who stuffed it up
Been in two multi-year relationships with Trans-ladies, so yes they can work, at least as well as other relationships work.
There are three things that run a bit different to my mind...
One is up front cost of their lives. Most of us have limited expenses until mid life or later, with the possible exception of education. Even in the case of the one exception we can usually get long term loans at decent rates with a raft of protections. Imagine trying to live life having to buy your house flat out before you can date. Once it's paid for life proceeds as normal, but the up front cost can will easily be the center of your life for a bit.
When puberty happens. It's personnel drama, hormone driven thinking and social adjustment that we all go through, but they go through it twice and often at ages when there is no one else to share it with. Makes it harder and last a bit longer... but again, once they get past, same as everyone else.
Social stigma and self image. Linked issue with why do you want to be with them and is for reasons they want. All girls have trouble finding prince charming... these girls have to check their charming twice to make sure everyone agrees on who's who. This is the only one that doesn't change to my knowledge.
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Originally Posted by pittsburghadmirer
I love how men that only dated escorts...pass judgement on that experience.
You knew she was escorting, and unless you are going to compensate for the money she is missing out on, I highly doubt she is going to quit.
Doesn't take brains....
Ive posted a profile in a dating site before and met a few guys there and I was really shocked with what most of them said to me "Youre the only ts girl in that site that i keep in touch with who didnt asked any money from me".
Yes I think many ts girls who lurks in dating sites have secret agendas so careful careful careful for I think they also have expenses communicating and keeping in touch with ts admirer/chasers.
And just an added info I have many TS friends who posted an ad in dating sites and you know they are earning a lot just by asking money from guys in there. At first i didnt believe them but one of my friend showed me all her western union and bank transactions and almost every 3 days theres a guy from US or Europe or Canada or Australia who sends her money just by chatting with them and saying bullshit sweet words to them crazy. And the guys really think the TS girl really love them when in fact they are just after their money. My TS friend were even able to have SRS surgery in Bangkok for 10,000-15,000US$ just from guys who sends her money from all bullshit talks.
If you think escort girls are no way better than girls who advertise in dating section then think again lol
don't have a lot of money yet. but a relationship with a tgrl will be a dream cum tru 8)
('_^
Oh, balooney! He was right on the mark with his statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybbaby