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Sounds to me like he was being arrested for being an arsehole, but i'm sure you can put a different spin on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
It was later revealed to have been a scene from Soul Man 2 the sequel nobody demanded. :lol:
Yeah i was thinking he got arrested for being a loud and disruptive, i mean he was arrested after yelling at the oficer, it isn't like the officer arrived on the scene and arrested him.
from the police report it seems like he was being a bit of a dick but that town has a well earned reputation of racism and I'm sure the police officer had a few choice words that weren't in that report
you are right. You cant just yell at a cop all willy-nillyQuote:
Originally Posted by Legend
If he would've just shut his big mouth, he probably wouldn't have been arrested.
a person cant just mouth off at a cop but when a person feels that he is being discriminated against then its hard to stay quiet. I know i couldn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by loren
his stock just went up
he can now (if he chooses) leave Harvard and go to another University and probably have a best seller book on the NY Times list in the coming months if he so chooses.........
up until now no one really knew who he was
Another link to racism http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/17/...uit/index.html A lot of cops ARE racist. And the reason I know is I have a family member who is one. (cop and racist). Funny thing is (kind of) he makes a big deal about going to church every Sunday.
This was a catch 22 for the cop, if the house was really getting broken into and he didn't ask the Prof to come out the prof would have said the cop didn't want to investigate because he was black and didn't care if his home was under a home invasion.
This guy teaches at Harvard? arrogant asshole is what he is, plus he was the racist here not the cop.
Those Harvard students, nerd and geeky types are hot. Met a couple of guys from Harvard yum yum!
for the heinous crime of being "uppity" a term used mostly by descendants of former southern plantation owners.
Nobody knew who Henry Louis Gates Jr was before now? are u serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
Gates has been the recipient of nearly 50 honorary degrees and numerous academic and social action awards. He was named a MacArthur Fellow in 1981 and was listed in Time among its “25 Most Influential Americans” in 1997. On October 23, 2006, Gates was appointed the Alphonse Fletcher Jr. University Professor at Harvard University. In January 2008, he co-founded The Root, a website dedicated to African-American perspectives published by The Washington Post Company. Gates currently chairs the Fletcher Foundation, and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He is on the boards of many notable institutions including the New York Public Library, Jazz at Lincoln Center, the Aspen Institute, the Brookings Institution, the Studio Museum of Harlem, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, HEAF (the Harlem Educational Activities Fund), and the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences, located in Stanford, California.[2]
In 2002 the National Endowment for the Humanities selected Gates for the Jefferson Lecture, the U.S. federal government's highest honor for achievement in the humanities.[9] Gates' lecture was entitled "Mister Jefferson and the Trials of Phillis Wheatley"[10] and was the basis for his book The Trials of Phillis Wheatley.[11]
In 2006, Gates was inducted into the Sons of the American Revolution after he traced his lineage back to John Redman, a Free Negro who fought in the Revolutionary War.[12]
The popular Harvard-area burger restaurant, Mr. Bartley's Burger Cottage, sells a Professor Skip Gates burger topped with pineapple and teriyaki sauce.
All this and a man cant tell the police everything is ok, and they just leave?
It was his frigging house and he identified himself by name and then showed them his Harvard ID but the cops didn't buy the explanation. So the professor justifiably got angry because it was fuckin racist. And then the cops arrested him. That's fucked up. We've heard of stops and arrests for being "Black while driving" and "Black while shopping". We got a new one, "Black while being at home". Nobody in this country ought to put up with this shit.
LOL. Did you even read the article? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobzz
lol, he had too cause thats the same thing the article said, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 2009AD
According to the linked article, "...Gates was arrested after he yelled at the investigating officer repeatedly inside the residence then followed the officer outside, where Gates continued to upbraid him." Also according the article, "He was booked for disorderly conduct..."
I may be wrong but generally disorderly conduct requires a public context; e.g. loitering, public intoxication, sun bathing nude in view of your neighbors etc. Had Gates not followed the officer outside to continue his tirade, there would've been nothing to hang on him.
Why Gates was upset with the officer to begin with is unclear to me. The officer may have said or done something inappropriate or something at least perceived by Gates as inappropriate. Good policemen are skilled at diffusing such situations. This one either wasn't, or didn't care to. Policemen are used to demanding and getting respect and Gates wasn't giving any. I can image some officers in this situation would be itching for a chance to arrest this uppity black professor. To create such an opportunity all the officer would have to do is continue the argument while luring Gates to step outside. That was Gates' mistake, he should [have] said good riddance at the door.
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DUH!Quote:
Originally Posted by 2009AD
Having seen Gates give a lecture at my alma mater, I can say that he's pretty freaking awesome. He's done a lot for academia and African-American studies throughout his career. Personally, he could have ass-raped the officer and poured sugar in the gas tank and I still think he should have not been arrested. He is just that awesome.
That being said, he hardly seems like the man who would have gotten into the predicament it seems he did. Although that doesn't make it an impossibility, I doubt the circumstances as reported by the police.
Gates is like, enormously famous (possibly the most well-known academic today?). He can already teach anywhere he wants. He's written/edited 16 books and filmed/hosted 8 documentaries that play on PBS all the time. He was one of Time magazine's 25 Most Influential Americans. Didn't Harvard create the WEB Dubois chair just lure him from Duke?
Now, I'm not a big fan of Gates. Personally, I find him grating and I'm unable to watch his movies for long. He seems like just the kind of person to quickly and completely flip out at a cop and aggressively berate him.
That said, there's no way he deserves being arrested for this. There's a bunch of horror-movie scary stuff here: (1) Being required to show ID in your own home. (2) Being arrested for no crime whatsoever, just because a cop personally disliked something you said. (3) Being lured onto your front steps for a trumped-up "disorderly" charge.
I hope the cop loses his job, and I hope other cops learn from this. If it takes a Gates to demonstrate that cops serve the citizens, then it's the best thing he's done in his career.
Isn't that a bit much, the guy doesn't deserve to lose his job he just arrested someone who was being loud and disruptive,you can't talk to cops any kind of way and expect nothing to happen just because this guy was a high class professor doesn't mean he deserved any kind of special treatment.Really if me or anyone on this forum would to get loud and disruptive with a cop we probably would get arrested,you have to be smart about these things.If you're stupid enough to get loud and belligerent with a cop you deserve to be arrestred no matter who you are.
Wrong for him, and wrong for the rest of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
Charges have now been dropped according to AP: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090721/...lar_disorderly
If a cop comes to your door, accuses you of B&E and then refuses to believe that you're who you claim to be, don't you think you'd get loud and belligerent? I'm thinking his response was within reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
He was arrested after showing his id and liscense, so i think they probably know he who he was, he was probably making a big deal about them coming to his home and wanting to see his i.d, the cops probably didn't have any kind of idea who he was before hand so they asked him to identify himself after all someone call them about a breaking and entering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobzz
You read the article but you didn't understand it. He never accused him of B&E he said that someone reported a possible B&E, so the cop was following protocol, there was a possible home invasion going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobzz
So if anyone wants to do a home invasion in Boston this house is now open game, then cops will then be accused of not asking him out of his house because he is black, the truth would be because he is a ignorant asshole that likes to accuse people of being racist for trying to make sure he is safe.
Think about this, if it was a black cop that came to his door and asked him to do the exact same thing would he have reacted then same way? Who is the racist?
He failed to listen to Chris Rock and he paid the price. Good chance that you will be arrested if you insult the officer's mother too.
Maybe, just maybe, the cop was simply being an asshole and maybe, just maybe the good professor was itching for an opportunity to show that the system is biased against blacks (this is Boston, ya know). I'm pro cops but I'm also pro educators. I just think it's fucked up to have anyone get rousted out of their house and get arrested because he or she mouthed off to a cop.
Cops are not gods, they're people with guns, tough jobs and often, out of control egos. There's no shortage of egos with Harvard types either. This was one of those situations when an irresistible force meets an immovable object but an arrest? I don't think that's right.
Deee, no disrespect but if you walked into any barbershop or stripclub or hair salon in the hood prior to his arrest the odds of anyone knowing who you were talking about had you said his name would have been rare if at all acknowledged.............cmon now.Quote:
Originally Posted by deee757
Not true, I dont know who has conversations in strip clubs, but in hair salons and barbershops gates and his work (along with Cornel West) are constant subjects. Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Black Man and The African American Century: How Black Americans Have Shaped Our Century Are some recent books discussed the last time I was in a barber shop. Not to mention any hip hop purest knows that he spoke on behalf of Two Live Crew's Luke Skywalker in his freedom of speech victory. Test your theroy and go into a black barbershop and see how many people are up on gates. Ask about cornell west too, he was not recently in the news.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
Educated bruhs are definitely up on both Gates and West. And the Barbershop is one of the last bastions of intellectual conversation.
As well as tthe educated Sistahs. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by ed_jaxon
You'd be surpised at the variety and depth pf the conversations that
we will have while undergoing our many hours of beautification.
Also, it is no secret the amount of racial profiling that happens on Harvard
Yard or at some of the other so-called ivy leauge schools in Boston.
Perhaps those of the caucasian persuasion believe that lady justuce is
color-blind, but we people of color, are painfully aware she is not.
No doubt Peggy.
The beauty shop and barber shop both are places where things kind of equal out.
Everyone needs to get their hair done, both rich and poor. Also, by sitting in a confined space for hours on end it is natural to have wide ranging conversations.
Copy of the arrest report, here: http://bit.ly/oe9VA
Gates story: http://www.theroot.com/views/lawyers...louis-gates-jr
Bruh should've checked himself. Don't care how emo you get, cops have guns and have been taught to control situations. Gates losing control and calling the cop a "racist" ratcheted up the emotions of the situation. All Gates had to do was explain himself and let the officer make sure nothing was amiss.
Imagine your career going down the tubes as a black guy called you a racist for no apparent reason and you could see the conundrum the officer faced (he was responding to a call of a man breaking into a house). The cop allowed them both to save face by leaving, but Gates wouldn't let it go.
The cop had little choice but to arrest him, as needless as it was.
The charges will be dropped, but Harvard should reprimand him for being a total d-bag.
I'm scared of white cops.
i'm scared of black professors...
im scared of your avatar;Quote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
Ah, so your comment about angling for moving from Harvard to another University was in reference to hood-based/stripclub-directed institutions of higher learning. That makes more sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
Reading comprehension is an under-rated skill.
Too bad.