I wonder how many of you here have or has earlier a transexuell girlfriend.
is it just a fantasy or do you realy live toghethr whith a transexuall???
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I wonder how many of you here have or has earlier a transexuell girlfriend.
is it just a fantasy or do you realy live toghethr whith a transexuall???
Easier said than done. I'm sure there is a strong contingent of guys here, if the opportunity presented itself, would actively pursue relationships. Unfortunately for those of us not in a larger market, there is often a scarce pool of potentials (See: Non-Existent) I think there's a distinction to be drawn between motivations such as those and a pure fantasizer interested only in sex, where some are left with only fantasies as an option. It does a disservice to everyone involved if potential transsexual girlfriends aren't held to the same standards are genetic girlfriends, choosiness isn't lessened simply because of a cock. So there seem to be quite a few obstacles to pursuing a relationship with a TS, but hopefully not insurmountable. Only my personal point of view - but I think it explains many situation here - so this is a great outlet for at least....some sort of....contact with the TS community, and at the very least I'm thankful for that.
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Originally Posted by TheGuard
Do you or any of the guys utilize any of the trans related dating sites?
Whenever I'm single I never can find a guy online cause they are loco or in love with the stigma of who they think I am.
The few I'm aware of; TS Girlfriend, URNotAlone, some lesser sites such as Adult Friend Finder. By and large they turned out to be dead ends. Suggestions are more than welcome.
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Originally Posted by KellyShore
Yeah online dating sites seem to not always get me the best results,
whether it's transrelated ones or mainstream ones like Match.com, or
True.com, etc.
Online dating - that's a whole other issue - personally it isn't an avenue I would normally go down - but it feels next to impossible to find a real world connection. I recently graduated from a large University, and I'll be damned if out of our 50,000 + students there weren't some transwomen, but they were completely off my radar.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
...and that isn't to say that you ladies don't have your own issues seeking men who are attracted to transsexuals, The whole thing is just fucked.
Well, who knows? A rebound time is required between relationships. Sometimes us guys forget that.
I'm gonna fuck the slutiest club rat girl I can find Sunday.
:wink:
TS Girlfriend's not too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGuard
TG Matchmaker - booty calls
AFF - definetely booty calls
LVTG - booty call
TSMatch -they're not too bad
Match.com, True.com are always cyber pimping,
filling my email with bs
I made a couple profiles across different sites (TG-specific and general), but never expected much to come of it. I did it more to see what might happen instead of using it as a serious medium for meeting anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by peggygee
TSGirlfriend, and TSMatch seem to have people that are looking forQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGuard
LTRs, and TGirltalk is a maybe for meeting someone, and is great for
convo.
Location seems to be the biggest issue, so at the end of the day it's no ones fault but my own - Harrisburg just isn't going to cut it.
Peggy, thanks for the overview - haven't heard of a few mentioned, worth perusing.
How were your results?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
For me it seems like the fairly decent guys are half a world away. At one
point I could have relocated but now that's a difficult option.
As I'm mildly bi I've widened my search to include natal females and
or drama free trans females.
Oh, and there were a few Myspace groups that have people looking for LTRs.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGuard
I've forgotten their names as I have been doing as much
circuit riding for transrights as I used to.
The guys should try adding a few current and good clear photos to there profiles and ads for dating... Face and body pics (Not Cock pics) with a nice profile may help That will show me your somewhat serious about dating a TS woman in public and not embarresed about it or scared someone will out you.
Unfortunately not a real one. Perhaps online if that were to count (I wouldn't say so), but that's pretty pathetic I know. Still, she adores me (and I her), but lives on the other side of the world. Were the chance ever to arise that the option of us being together were possible, I would do it.
i've never had a t/s g/f but i would if i met the right girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpion
I occasionally post on those sites, but they keep banning me... something about paying in installments rather than after the divorce I guess...
PS - I'm available for a LTR with a very wealthy gentleman, with or without Jessica. Not really. But I will go for a weekend!
Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)
YEs i have...
I had ts girlfriend. We lived apart though - 5 hours by driving. Was best time of my life. If ts is passable, then i dont think it's much different than having gg girlfriend.
i have had 4 ltr ranging from 1-3 years..i have dated many other in my short time in the scene..internet dating isn't 4 me ..i am good at real time and not computers...met one girl once online ..we dated for a few months..we usually hook up when i see her at the parties...i know what works for me and what doesn't..that is the key to success..
first of all I would love to see more posts about topics like this.
Second, I have tried tgpersonals-there used to be a great site to meet, but of course escorts invaded it and now it sucks. Honestly Myspace seems to be the best spot. Just post your real pics and IF you're so scared of people finding out you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway or you can hide your friends from your profile(a bit cowardly).But I have met a few girls on there (as friends) and they are cool as hell too. I've dated a few women that were transsexuals...1 good experience...2 bad ( told me they had real jobs and ended up seeing them on a porn site)
I remember tgpersonals, met a few decent people,but then theQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam_Thompson
site fell off.
About 4-5 years ago, I had this thing that I really, really, really a LTR with a TG. Call it a pipe dream or what not. I don't exactly live in the TG mecca of the world (Pittsburgh), but through the Internet and several sites, I was fortunate enough to meet quite a few around my age. Most of them were students at one of the many colleges in the city.
I ended up dating a couple. Nothing really long-term, but several months for each. They each had issues that weren't talked about sooner, and while they were both nice people, their respective issues really hindered the relationship.
Another TG I took out on a date or two was really, really, really attractive and one of the more passable TGs I ever saw. But, alas, she moved and nothing more came out of it.
I haven't dated a TG since that and am now happily married, but that was a fun time in my life.
I've had two serious relationships with TG women in the last few years. No shame or embarrassment here, I'm proud of the women I date.
...I've been in three LTRs with a t'women. Two moved in to my house and one had her own place she wanted to keep.
[damn-trying to get photos, still]
It was like a GG relationship. One, being a Japanese national, One a Finnish national and the other was the trusty North American Caucasian model. Dated a few others since-nothing serious. Mind you-the ethnicity wasn't planned-just happened out of coincidence.
I met them through this thing some of us have; a modicum of bravery to go up to someone at start a conversation. Mind you-I'm not in possession of a models' looks, a stock-brokers salary or a big house and toys. I did the online thing, too.
Online---kinda flaky...I got and still get the, "are you generous?" And in fact-you're most likely going to be in communication with someone who's second home is the club scene...not all, but a good majority. Most have confused me as an ATM; a lot of taking and very little, if not anything in return...sayonara.
A trip to Peanuts or some other places around LA/OC---just having some of those...ya, balls...to go up, say hi...some are stuck up and rather unhospitable...so-I tend to leave those chicks to the goons willing to put up with chasing them around the club all night. Some "working girls" have approached me via the crotch-grab.
It's not like you're gonna be at the market and run into some chick, introduce yourself and walk her out to her car and grab a drink later that night...maybe for some, but the Whole Foods near my house is full of those Earthy snooty chicks with a Volvo wagon...not cool.
Gee, they wonder why I date t'girls...I guess it really doesn't matter if they're GG's or T'Girls...there's some good ones and bad ones in every bunch...I think it's harder to meet T'Girls. I've been dating for 14 years now and my partners have been loaded on 'mones and have been about as stable as a house of cards, some have been silicone blow-up dolls, cut/ uncut, smart/dumb, tops/bottoms and some have assimilated into the population unnoticed...they're people...people do things...people are hard to meet and keep...in a relationship, that is.
...me; I think I'm interesting, attractive, and generally a nice guy...enough to captivate someone into more than just buying them a drink at a bar or going through a barrage of online dating emails to get their attention.
Sometimes it's the "metrosexual" thing the chicks like...Sometimes it's the "guy-guy" thing...Kelly Shore elluded to guys being attracted to her "stigma"...right on.
I can't tell you how many chicks–GG or TG–ike the idea of a guy that has a garage full of [cool] motorcycles, living-room full of guitars, hates sports on TV, has a house, plays music and digs art and eats food he can't pronounce...but when it comes time for me to travel for a race [see you in Europe this Spring, ladies], put some long hours at the office or weed my flowerbeds...shit, that cuts into their time shopping at Sephora, the mall or taking three hours to get ready to go out to the local gay bar, or disco...so, Kelly---it goes both ways, sister...I hear ya...
Maybe the "stigma" of an LTR is suicide to some folks? I think that with some maturity--the LTR comes easier? Sometimes-people can't articulate what they're looking for? I don't know...
..phew. women...regardless of what's between their legs...shame I can't keep away from them!
i ike the way you're thinking hiwatt1000 :)
Yeah Hiwatt and me are on the same page here. And Adam nailed it that the dating sites are hijacked by the hookers: "Want to catch a movie and some pizza?" "Sure. sounds great. My rates are 100 per hour for movie time as long as I don't have to look at your fugly face, unless it's a double feature and then I might do a discount if it includes a shopping spree. Sitting through pizza AND having to look at your fugly face.....250. Sex, well that's included if you go for the 500 companionship package." Or something like that.
Please. I've lived with the Superstar. I've lived with the not-so-superstar. Just the other night I fell off my chair for the sweetest thing on two feet. Bright, educated, so sexy. She came clean though....just a wee bit of escorting on the side......"to make ends meet." This chick could have worked anywhere.
So maybe all the thrillseekers and fantasy boys, the perverts and the masturbater set, needs to be excluded from the conversation. The real guys, the ones that are gentlemen and could give fuck all what anyone thinks, and the all aroud great guys like me!!!!!, well it's still a nightmare.
What is it in the girls that make them so elusive. Won't put all the blame on them. But it starts with leading a lifestyle that might be conducive to the relationship. I feel for Kelly. I think. Who wouldn't go out with Kelly? But beyound "the Kelly" and I'm only using her as an example, what's it all about? Educated, articulate, beautiful.....what are the aspirations of these girls in general? Is their life before the end result of transition, so filled with heartache, ridicule and loneliness that they've become alienated from being able to tell what is good and if someone that truly cares? Or are they permanently removed from the mainstream? A self imposed exile from everything? I think it might be. Partly based on society's shortcomings and partly their own lack of will to just be average. Just because you're hotter than hell doesn't mean that you have be exploited.
And I'm coming from a point of view where I'm not exactly considered a monster or out of shape. I'm a gentleman, I'm in great shape yadayadada.....
So this is more my protest. And a challenge to these fucking beautiful great girls here that I love.....to take the next step toward the mainstream. Contrary to what many girls think here, there's no gold in them hills. But, a simple plan . With a simple partner. It's all building blocks to greatness, wealth and prosperity!!!! MY FELLOW AMERICANS!.
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Originally Posted by hiwatt1000
Great posts by the both of you. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by bezane
You both come across well on paper, or at least in bits and bytes. You both
sound like keepers. You both say all of the right things.
Yet from the both of you I get the sense that you dip your worm in the
ocean quite a bit in an effort to catch a fish.
Now if either of you have read my posts, I hope that you can trust me
enough to believe that I didn't mean that in a shady way.
And I do realize that men have needs, and that sometimes you want to
try the milk before buying the cow.
I also realize the nature of many of my Sisters, the things they do, and to
some extent the reason that they say they do, the things they do.
So the question becomes where is the disconnect. Why is there the
difficulty in finding an adequate mate.
Are you fishing in the wrong rivers, looking for love in the wrong places,
bars, escort sites, using the wrong bait, the wrong pole, trying to make
a ho a housewife?
I've mixed enough metaphors, so folks can have a field day responding
to this post.
peggygee......a ho a housewife? LOL Yeah. I do that.
But that life has become so "normal" in the TS community and encouraged. Take someone on this board as sweet and nice as Jamie. While I'm sure she meant no harm she stated a couple of times recently that why would a girl that lost her job look for one at $20 an hour when they can get one for $200?
And then she added on another thread they they simply put a single ad on Craigslist and made $2000 the very first day.
Well not to be Mr. Responsibility here but this is crazy talk. I'm sure Jamie has made a cool million at the game as others have. Especially at 2K a day.
But I will say this without mentioning any other names. I know some elite girls. They don't make that type of dough. As a matter of fact I lived with an elite escort that travels the world with A-list clientele and never made it. Okay maybe 2 or 3 times.
And $200 an hour? I'd rather see a girl have an 8 hour a day job making $200 with benefits and security then gambling their future on a business that has so much risk. And I'm often met with the bit about it being that I don't want my girl fucking all these men. Well, to a degree I'd like my girl to myself. Who wouldn't? But thats just a poor excuse because it's not like there's not a wee bit of risk.
Glamorizing the escort life is just plain fantasy. High price call girls that have made hundreds and hundreds of thousands to millions like Jamie are a scant few. Bless them.
But every time I meet a girl that isn't an escort the temptation is there because of how great another TS says it is.
Your posts peggygee may be unpopular because no one likes a grim fucking reaper when it comes to self-reflection. And this thread will go unnoticed because of the same feelings.
Even the little girl Ashley when saying that she wanted to turn her academics into a great job was met with the idea of go get into porn or why give it away for nothing. Some said in joking fashion I understand. But c'mon already. I truly believe that I have more to offer than just $300 an hour to a girl for some gratuitous sex. And if thats true then I'm sure she has bit more to offer the world than her services as a hooker.
My conclusion is that the TS world is deteriorating. While I have no issue with the porn business, let's not confuse it with the escort business. You can use them hand in hand. But the escort business will assist in destroying people's lives. Period. And to the survivors that love their jobs, thats great. But the future will be unkind to you. At least thats what I have witnessed.
Thanks though peggygee. I see your points. And as you see I've been a visitor here now again since the beginning of this board. I know the biz better than some of the Queen Bees here. And I support the girls that are caught up in the business. My advice is to form an exit strategy early on. Get an education. Legitimate business can make more than an illicit one. And love is something that should inspire, not inhibit.
You've made many cogent points, some that I have touched on elsewhere,
and some that I may yet touch on depending on other answers to my
posts, and your response.
But I would like to re-iterate the question:
Do you feel that many transwomen are not in relationships because they
escorting, or are there other variables to factor in.
...I hear ya with the worm, cow and ho things.
Nope, I think it's a damned good thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by bezane
...Kira's comments about posting a real profile and real photo, sans cock---been there, done that.
My favorites are: "looking for a real relationship" Which means-drive me to the disco and buy me and my friends drinks...then drive us home. And the next famous--drop me a line, which means, "if you look like the Adonis at the Gay Bar I frequent, I might call you so you can take me out and buy me drinks...yadda, yadda, yadda...And concluding with the all-time fave: I like long walks on the beach, fine dining and the finer things in life. Which I found out means, "here are my rates".
It's hard to take these situations seriously...who doesn't like fine dining--so I'll swing by and get you, dressed like a disco-whore and hope I can get a seat at Matsuhisa and dump $300.00 on Sushi...no, better yet-we'll go for that long walk on the beach after I play phone tag with you for three days so by the time you and I actually speak--that long walk on the beach is from the Beverly Center parking structure to the front door of Bebe...ya, right...and then there's the party-chaser...sheesh...
I'm not bitter about it-sounds like it-yes. Just some observations I've made while dating. I mean-who the fuck in their right mind would date a GG that acts like that? Perhaps, we call that the Gold-Digger...ya, look hot so that some dumb guy comes along with his deep pockets and funds your existence...
I guess in some countries like Brazil, Thailand and the Philippines–T'girls are [big guess, here] doing it for just the downright need for money to support themselves and their families-then the mysticism of being a woman trapped in a man's body, second...I'm sure there's some indignities tht go along with that...but when there's a German tourist blown out on the boozer waving a hotel key and cash...the Ladyboy goes with that, instead of the guy trying his best to try his Thai, Portuguese or Tagalog out on his date at the bar...amazing how it all transcends one way or another...
I hate to bore you guys/girls with what borders a diatribe...but I dig T'Girls as much as the next dude, does. But...c'mon...Women's Lib stops when the wallet opens.
I admire the chicks I've dated that endured my lengthly, boring dialogs about Post WWII Modern Art, the complexities of Robert Fripp's guitar playing, my latest race and how I can fuck-up cooking a Quiche after attending cooking school and can paint for fuck's sake while holding and MFA!
...kudos to the wonderful "Lady" I took on my Honda to a wedding at the Wayfarer's Chapel...and didn't worry about getting "outted"...
Your a rare breed of man who dates TS woman you do know that. I've yet to find someone like you. :D Gives me hope, Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by hiwatt1000
Hiwatt & bezane:
Those were great, great posts. I agree with both of you on many points. I see many of the same things with many of my friends.
I really don't know where to start. So many factors involved that I think I'll just go the "stream of consciousness" mode.
I believe there is peer preasure from TS's to get into escorting & porn. It seems to be one quick way to be validated. Having guys worship you feels great to someone that may have just been struggling with their identity. Also some fast, big money. And if you are OK with having sex with a lot of strangers, then you have it made. But I also think there is a price to be paid... sometimes girls don't know that until the bill comes down the road much later in life and it's too late. Every girl I know that escorts and/or does porn could easily get a regular job. They look good enough, they are smart enough. But the escort life makes them lazy, flakey, sometimes a little bitter & hard and they always want a job that will pay as much as $200 for 30 minutes.... and they aren't going to find that.
But by the same token, if guys are just going to use you as some kind of fetish, why not get paid for it? if people are going to love you & leave you, I would certainly want to be compensated.
As far as the new girl, I was one of the people that told that new girl that if she was going to post nude pics, she should get paid for them. PERSONALLY, if I was her, I would NOT post ANY nude pics, but as long as she is going to, she should get compensation. It's stupid not to.
Relationships:
It seems that about 85% of BOTH guys & girls are really messed up and have a lot of issues. And that makes it very, very difficult for the rest of the 15% of sincere guys & girls to trust one another. People have been burned on both sides.
I'm one of the lucky ones. I didn't get into drugs or drinking and I went to school and got "edgukated". I also have my dream career that many people would kill for, but I have the same problems as many other people when trying to meet someone. You meet flakes, "playas", drunks, druggies, unemployed people, married guys, DL guys, blah, blah, blah.....
Also, many guys expect all trannys to be exactly like the sex machines they see in the clubs & in film. Just going to the movies holding hands & kissing??? How boring!!!! And going shopping at Whole Foods??? No way! Trannys don't go shopping! :wink: And if you don't meet their ideal look in any way, they don't even bother to get to know your personality. (A big problem with the girls, also.)
And one other thing I've noticed, in the TS world, most guys want the sex first, and THEN they will decide if they want to pursue that person for a date or a relationship. And I think that's a very difficult thing for a TS that may have trust issues with guys.
LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN..... this is NOT man bashing. I'm just pointing things out from my point of view. It's definately 50-50 when it comes to difficlulties between TS's & guys.
Trying to have a TLR in the tranny world is no picnic for either side.
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(Sorry for the jumbled up post.)
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now i am prolly steering towards the "ranting" area, but fuck it:Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
I hear that a lot, the guys blow it (no pun intended) , but seriously, there are few Trannies out there who ARE ltr-material as well.
here is my story: I had one, for about one year. It was a lot of drama, but thats not the thing that made it stop.
I met her at a club, we exchanged numbers.....and met some time later on. I dont regret anything, but I was lied to, about her job that is. I am not the dumbass as I may look, I was suspicious for a few reasons (why the heck do you need three mobile phones but I got the number only for two of them?????) and a little check regarding the escort-pages revealed, indeed, she was working as one on the side. I confronted her with my findings and offered to talk about the situation, but she was in total denial, refused to adress that BIG issue.
And you know what? She was indeed educated, very nice and prolly could have a "boring" normal job. But she chose the easy route.
As about myself - I hold a job, I am not that much of an ass all the time, but I cant easily support two people at once. And also for principle reasons I would like to see my girl working a job of her own. A fucking boring 9-5.
Dont get me wrong, I dont have anything against escorting, but I cant see that as a long term perspective in life. Its similar to sports, you have your prime between 20 and 30, maybe 35, and what next?
That means I am a write-off already from the start for may T-chicks, who seem to be steady members of the gold-digger-crew.
So am I ready for another TS-relationship? Not now and not in the near future.
Do you know what "stigma" means?Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
No one knows who you are, because you have created so many cockamamie stories and personas it makes a persons head spin.
If a guy fell in love with YOU online, he would have to be the harbringer of a myriad of serious issues.
LOL
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Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
FUCK ME!!!!! True Beauty TS whoever the fuck you are. Maybe your just an apparition. Maybe I know you. But that post makes my life complete. I don't like to cry. It shows weakness. But I feel different after reading that. I hope the girls read it too. Thank you.