What the f*ck is up with some girls?!? Only date straight?

The following was my first post on this board:

"Okay, I just joined and this may not make me very popular, but I have to get it off my chest.

Okay...I am NOT an "admirer" or a freakin' "tranny chaser". My preference for transsexuals happens to be my sexuality, who and what I'm attracted to. I'm really sick of seeing guys like myself referred to by transsexuals as one of the aforementioned names.

Look, I know society treats transsexuals as oddities and lacks understanding of the decisions you made for yourself. I also understand the sick and twisted cyclical oppression that goes on in our community.

Wait a minute...did I say "OUR" community?

That's right, I said OUR community. The simple fact of the matter is that when I realized my sexuality and entered into a relationship with a transsexual, I became part of the transgender community. I, as a young white male open about who he was and is, became an oddity, a pervert in society's eyes.

And I'm not. Pisses me off to no end.

So, I refuse society's labeling of me. And of you. And because of that, I also refuse to let you, the people I support and love and am attracted to, demean me and the men who are similar to me for liking and supporting you for who and what you are.

peace. "

Now I bring it up again because, well, what the f*ck is wrong with some of you girls?

This whole "I only date straight men" is ludicrous.

I mean...come on! I never understood why transgender women would NOT want a man who loves and respects who they are, where they came from, and won't have any hangups about it. And it's fucking self-defeating for them because they choose guys that DO have hangups.

Arrrggghhh!!

*breathe*

i feel better now. carry on.

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I'm curious to hear what the "straight" dating ladies have to say :popcorn

"I only date straight" is another way for a TS to say that she only dates top guys. It doesn't really have any other hidden meaning.

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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter

"I only date straight" is another way for a TS to say that she only dates top guys. It doesn't really have any other hidden meaning.

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Well, thanks for letting me in on that. I'm a top....so I guess that makes me "straight" in a girl's mind? It sounds like too easy of an explanation...there's got to be more...no?

Hmmm. now that is interesting Vicki. That means I'm straight.. Hooray!

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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter

"I only date straight" is another way for a TS to say that she only dates top guys. It doesn't really have any other hidden meaning.

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Well, thanks for letting me in on that. I'm a top....so I guess that makes me "straight" in a girl's mind? It sounds like too easy of an explanation...there's got to be more...no?

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I think there is,maybe a little labeling!

But I often heard some girls say that they wouldn't date anyone who knew that they're a TG. They consider the men that don't know their TG status as "straight". They want a "straight" man to fall in love with them. Not an "admirer" or "trannychaser".

well, its confusing.

The question is among us "straight men who like transexuals" are we gay?..

Our minds tell us we're straight. My mind tells Me i am straight.. I have only been with ONE tgirl and I didnt go downstairs and i didnt want too. I am sure everyone here is slightly different about that. But as for me that's how i feel..

so we are straight.. but then there is the little issue down below to deal with. wait a minute.... but..
uhm
I dont feel like getting graphic here... but.... its confusing..

Also, from what I gather "trannychaser" is more applied to creepy guys that chase/stalk ts women on the d-l than an upfront no-nonsense fellow like yourself.

You sound like a nice guy so I'm sure there's someone out there for ya. Take care.

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

But I often heard some girls say that they wouldn't date anyone who knew that they're a TG. They consider the men that don't know their TG status as "straight". They want a "straight" man to fall in love with them. Not an "admirer" or "trannychaser".

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And that's what pisses me off. It's my sexuality. I'm not judging the girls for who they are. I just want to know why, to some, maybe not Vicki, it's bad thing to like them for who they are? What's up with that? A little self-hatred, maybe? Low self esteem?

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But I often heard some girls say that they wouldn't date anyone who knew that they're a TG. They consider the men that don't know their TG status as "straight". They want a "straight" man to fall in love with them. Not an "admirer" or "trannychaser".

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Which is exactly what the OP is. 'Hot Pursuit'.

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OP?

Well, sadly some women of all types are going to have irrational hang-ups. C'est la vie! Just take it in stride and eventually someone will come around to appreciate you.

Its funny to use the word "straight" meaning "top"... Plenty of gay guys are only "tops".

In my experience, girls don't mind whether or not we're "straight" when giving them oral sex...

Lets now define the word "amnesty"...lol

well if a guy that is interested only in topping is "straight", i can understand that i suppose.

but any transwoman wanting to only date "straight" guys that don't know their gender right off the bat is a pretty slim chance in hell. i mean honestly if a guy doesn't or never has dated a transgender, and is surprised later on that she was not born a woman. what are the chances that he is gonna be cool with it and be down? 10%? more? less? and that is assuming that she is unclockable enough to go anywhere and not be noticed. and what are the chances of that with the majority of transwomen? truly?

i think any transwoman that thinks she can honestly only date "straight" guys that never had any previous interest in women like her, will not be dating very much. or she will look for a guy like that but take on the occasional "trannychaser" at her whim we she needs the attention... and how often is that?

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

But I often heard some girls say that they wouldn't date anyone who knew that they're a TG. They consider the men that don't know their TG status as "straight". They want a "straight" man to fall in love with them. Not an "admirer" or "trannychaser".

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That's right, that's what I've always said. They want a guy who is not usually into trannies, just into her only...A guy that meets the girl in question thinking she is a genetic female and then falls for her "regardless" of her having a dick. This is like the ultimate ego boost for a TS...landing a "straight guy"

I asked this in the other thread. Do some transwoman feel like guys who like them more for having a penis than for their female qualities do not "validate" them as women and perhaps feel some resentment towards them.

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But I often heard some girls say that they wouldn't date anyone who knew that they're a TG. They consider the men that don't know their TG status as "straight". They want a "straight" man to fall in love with them. Not an "admirer" or "trannychaser".

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Which is exactly what the OP is. 'Hot Pursuit'.

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OP=Original Poster

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So, you're saying I'm a trannychaser? Exactly why would you say that?

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

A guy that meets the girl in question thinking she is a genetic female and then falls for her "regardless" of her having a dick. This is like the ultimate ego boost for a TS...landing a "straight guy"

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The movie "Princessa" was all about this subject. In the middle of the night, the main character tried to fuck her boyfriend, when he was receptive, she flipped out and left him.

....then she went back to working the streets, wtf... its just of movie though.

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

A guy that meets the girl in question thinking she is a genetic female and then falls for her "regardless" of her having a dick. This is like the ultimate ego boost for a TS...landing a "straight guy"

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The movie "Princessa" was all about this subject. In the middle of the night, the main character tried to fuck her boyfriend, when he was receptive, she flipped out and left him.

....then she went back to working the streets, wtf... its just of movie though.

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That was a great film. And that was a great scene.

I just sparked a bowl and reread the thread.. I have to say. It makes less sense now..

Unisex seems to be taking it in the right direction.

Tgirls are both male and female.. In the end it is not a question of gay vs. straight. as NEITHER actually apply to this situation.

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Originally Posted by Tanuki

I just sparked a bowl and reread the thread.. I have to say. It makes less sense now..

Unisex seems to be taking it in the right direction.

Tgirls are both male and female.. In the end it is not a question of gay vs. straight. as NEITHER actually apply to this situation.

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Right. So why is someone that is attracted to that considered less than?

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Originally Posted by Tanuki

I just sparked a bowl and reread the thread.. I have to say. It makes less sense now..

Unisex seems to be taking it in the right direction.

Tgirls are both male and female.. In the end it is not a question of gay vs. straight. as NEITHER actually apply to this situation.

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Right. So why is someone that is attracted to that considered less than?

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Maybe fear that you are attracted to her for her dick and therefore "gay"

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

But I often heard some girls say that they wouldn't date anyone who knew that they're a TG. They consider the men that don't know their TG status as "straight". They want a "straight" man to fall in love with them. Not an "admirer" or "trannychaser".

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Russian Roulette! LOL They are playing with fire and could be beaten black and blue or worst killed for not being upfront with their status Kabuki. We all know alot of tg's suffered that fate repeatedly. My two cent. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

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Originally Posted by Tanuki

Unisex seems to be taking it in the right direction.

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Unisex referred back to me saying I was in "hot pursuit". And to me that's just a fucking off the wall thing to say without even knowing me.

Truth be told, I was in a relationship for 13.5 years with a ts. Since then I haven't "chased" anyone. Yes, I've gone on dates and am looking for someone to date, have a relationship with...but I haven't even fucking slept with anyone for years...and I don't visit escorts. I'm here because I find answers and others like me here...and maybe there's the off chance I'll meet someone through here...but "hot pursuit"? WTF?

You know. I dont really know anyone here but I have to say. I have carried these types of questions around with me for a long time now and it is really great to have this forum to figure it out. Nice place.

Yeah. I'm officially stoned.

For me I'll gladly be either top or bottom... I get pleasure from giving her pleasure, so I'll be "straight" if thats what they want...

I guess I'm "situationally" straight or bi or whatever...

I suppose many girls would prefer for guys to just ignore their penis, but its an elephant in the room.

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Russian Roulette! LOL They are playing with fire and could be beaten black and blue or worst killed for not being upfront with their status Kabuki. We all know alot of tg's suffered that fate repeatedly. My two cent. ;)

~Kisses.

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Exactly like my post upthread said... the chances of getting what is desired in that circumstances is very slim.

I prefer or tend to date guys that never really were interested in being with a transexual or what they are about. I don't know why I just tend to like those guys more, than guys that are "into" transexuals.

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I prefer or tend to date guys that never really were interested in being with a transexual or what they are about. I don't know why I just tend to like those guys more, than guys that are "into" transexuals.

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It sounds like you are looking for a 'virgin'.

Perhaps that type of attitude is why there are so many escort ads mentioning first-timers. Not saying that you escort as I don't know but I'm just saying...

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I prefer or tend to date guys that never really were interested in being with a transexual or what they are about. I don't know why I just tend to like those guys more, than guys that are "into" transexuals.

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A young TG friend of mine (the little sister I never had) who is getting her SRS and I were hanging out the other day, talking about some of the girls around her age she knows here in NYC. A few of them specifically started taking hormones and got breast surgery because they saw the older girls dating "straight" guys. Now, those young girls are miserable, angry, depressed, and pissed off. They were attracted to a fantasy, not the reality.

Hi, just stopped by...

I think everyone has their own sexual identity. I know for a long time I though I was gay, but I always wanted to be a girl, and "the" girl.

As a professional I've found that the vast majority of the men I date consider themselves "straight." Maybe 10% acknowledge themselves as "bi" and about 2% identify as "gay."

To me just because a man enjoys the company or experience of being with a TS doesn't automatically make him gay or bi, unless HE feels he is. This is because straight men see TS's for the most part as women, not as femme gay boys with boobies. So they are relating to us as women - which is the wany most of us like it.

I think gay men tend to want guys who identify as men, even if they are super femme. One of the cutest "girls" I've ever met is a gay guy I used to buy my cosmetics from. Beautiful skin, I thought he was trans and invited him to a workshop one time and he was like, "Nooo-way, I'm gay."

My partner Jessica, who's so passable she fools TS's, doesn't really even consider herself a TS. She identifies as being a girl with a birth defect, nothing more.

And to me anymore sexuality and gender is just a totally fluid thing and I'm trying not to catagorise myself as much. If anything I'm a straight, bi-sexual lesbian...

I like men as a straight girl, I like women too, and I'm in a same sex relationship with another trans woman, so I guess that makes us lesbians.

And why does it even matter?

Giggle,
TS Jamie

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

I prefer or tend to date guys that never really were interested in being with a transexual or what they are about. I don't know why I just tend to like those guys more, than guys that are "into" transexuals.

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Its ironic for a TS to like guys that aren't "into" transsexuals...

For a guy, I suppose its similar to being attracted to a good looking lesbian who's not really into men....very hot.

I can see why girls feel that way, but I can only imagine that life could be better for them (and us) if that feeling wasn't there.

well with me if i find some attractive it would not bother me if they were female or TS as i found them attractive


but i have seen it in films and tv where a ts will try to seduce a straight guy and the straight guy clearly does not like that

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Originally Posted by Unisex

The fact that you also posted this is;

Your thread

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Uhm, sorry? Wanting a tshirt to express who I am is wrong? Makes me a chaser? say what? Brother, what planet are you from?

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Right.... You're attracted to Transexauls as the label. Not the Womanly attributes she identifies herself as. That's where the Trannychaser label starts to trickle in.

You support what? Their Financial transition (as a Trick) or their emotional transition? (as a spouse)

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I support the movement. And part of that movement is you. No, I'm not a fuckin' trick...if you took the fuckin' time to read my response to you, you would understand that.

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She identifies herself as a Heterosexual, and you're running around with a shirt that basically says "Strictly Dickly" , then why would they want you?

I'm not sure if you ever taken up Electronics or followed Ohm's Law before. But there is a factual statement of, "Like Charges Repel, Unlike Charges attract".

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Where do you get "strictly dickly" from? If you read the thread you linked to you would see my first idea was this:

My transgender girlfriend always knew she was a woman,
so when are you going to start treating her like one?

To me, that's support. Being open and proud, and getting the backs the of the girls, getting on the street and sayin' it.

And Ohm's law...yeah, I'm very aware of it. Maybe that's why I'm feeling repelled by you?

Actually no, I think it is reasonable for trans women to be attracted to men who aren't necessarily attracted to TS.

Id' say perhaps the majority of non sex industry relationships with TS's are with partners who formerly may have never met a TS, but fell in love with the person, not the equipment.

It's easy to forget when involved with the trans porn and sex industry that trans women ARE women inside, so it's normal for them to prefer straight men and relationships.

Asa I think what most of us (everyone not just TS) are looking for is connection and love with someone. And if that girl just happens to have a dick, it's really a non-issue.

Which doesn't mean that just because a guy is attracted to sucking cock that he's gay - though he might be using a TS as a surrogate.

It's all too confusing, let's go have a beer followed by some HOT TS sex!

Giggle,
TS Jamie

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Originally Posted by Unisex

And Ohm's law...yeah, I'm very aware of it. Maybe that's why I'm feeling repelled by you?

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Thats a good response!

In general, I can't imagine life for person who feels like they've been born with a wrong appendage. Its incompreshensible what that would feel like, nor do I want to comprehend it....

In a perfect world, I'd like a girl to enjoy what she has, as many girls do.

Sorry...my response was to someone else...but this is what i was referring to:


Unisex referred back to me saying I was in "hot pursuit". And to me that's just a fucking off the wall thing to say without even knowing me.

Truth be told, I was in a relationship for 13.5 years with a ts. Since then I haven't "chased" anyone. Yes, I've gone on dates and am looking for someone to date, have a relationship with...but I haven't even fucking slept with anyone for years...and I don't visit escorts. I'm here because I find answers and others like me here...and maybe there's the off chance I'll meet someone through here...but "hot pursuit"? WTF?

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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter

"I only date straight" is another way for a TS to say that she only dates top guys. It doesn't really have any other hidden meaning.

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I believe Vicki stated it cogently and succinctly.

The first thing out of many men's mouth is that they
want a dick in their mouth or up their ass. Those
words and sentiments are uttered countless times
on this forum, and others like it.

All too often the women is secondary, it is the cock
that the man is primarily seeking.

Some women see their penis as a source of angst,
and would prefer that little to no attention be paid
to it.

Then, there are other women who are ultimately
seeking SRS, but during the period while they have
a penis they will utilize it and derive pleasure from
it.

Though a woman who is in the sex trade may 'top'
a man for monetary gain, her preference in a
relationship is for her to be the receptive partner.

hmmmm I think ill add my own spin on this....they want a guy who has never been with a ts...never looked at ts porn....especially never been to any ts bars or events...that way they control the situation...therefore there is no support system for him but the girl... I think its total bullshit cause it sounds more like they want a guy they can mold and manipulate...these labels are so funny ...

I had a girl I know casually , ask about her boyfriend...I told her I saw him hanging in VIP hanging out years back...she was gonna break up with him cause ,he wasn't totally honest about going to a club....fucking so funny cause this was years b4 they met...

oh well I date ts girls!!!!!so fucking what...I had some ts pluck me out at a ts club..then she was done with me...where did it leave me? ill tell ya , real fucking confused about my current sexuality (never saw ts porn or sites b4 this)...I never had any problems with going out in public and shit with a ts...but inside I didn't know what is going on...it wasn't till I met this wonderful person who helped me find my way and cleared the air for me..If I hadn't met her I can tell you that I def wouldn't be here today...

like I had posted in an earlier post " if she's into you . U are str8 ... when she's done with you U are a fag...well I guess im str8 enough to have a gg sleep with me, cause her boyfriend can't make her orgasm...well enough of my rants...I will be returning to my one liners..

Oh - and before I go...

The t-shirt thing. I think we have to all keep a sense of humor.

I for one applaud a guy who is willing to takea chance and stand up and say "I like TS's" even if it's a corny saying on a t-shirt (so long as it isn't demeaning).

And back to the label thing, so what if you're a guy and someone calls you a tranny chaser. Isn't it kind of like being a "whoremonger" in the straight hobby community? It doesn't mean anything.

Anyway, I gotta get ready, we're shooting a video tonight and I'm going to have my favorite guy!

So remember everyone this is supposed to be FUN!

Giggle,
TS Jamie