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NEW YORK -- Don Imus said he's sorry for a controversy he's created.

On his "Imus In The Morning" show Thursday, he referred to the Rutgers women's basketball team as "nappy-headed hos."

He was talking to Sid Rosenberg with Sports Talk on the phone about the Women's NCAA Championship game.

Imus started out talking about the Rutgers team as, "some rough girls from Rutgers. They got tattoos," and then went on to call them "some nappy-headed hos."

He compared them to the Tennessee team, saying "The girls from Tennessee -- they all looked cute."

The conversation then went on to compare the game to "the jigaboos versus the wannabes." Media Matters reported that the show's executive producer, Bernard McGuirk, made that comment.

# To hear the controversial conversation, click here.

On Friday morning's show, Imus said, "I want to take a moment to apologize for an insensitive and ill-conceived remark we made the other morning regarding the Rutgers women's basketball team, which lost to Tennessee in the NCAA championship game on Tuesday.

It was completely inappropriate, and we can understand why people were offended. Our characterization was thoughtless and stupid, and we are sorry."

Thursday, The New York Times reported that Imus said people should relax and not worry about "some idiot comment meant to be amusing."

A Rutgers spokesperson issued a statement saying, "We agree with Mr. Imus that this was, in his own words, an 'idiot comment.' We are very proud of the success of the Rutgers women's basketball team. Coach Stringer and the Rutgers players are outstanding ambassadors for this great institution."

MSNBC released a statement saying, "While simulcast by MSNBC, 'Imus in the Morning' is not a production of the cable network and is produced by WFAN Radio. As Imus makes clear every day, his views are not those of MSNBC. We regret that his remarks were aired on MSNBC and apologize for these offensive comments."

He won't be the 1st shock jock to say something foul, and he certainly won't be the last.................

Here's my question to you all reading this post: Wouldn't it be wiser to let him pay a fine and stay on a radio station where he will be closely monitored for the rest of his airtime?

OR

Would it be smart to let him go KNOWING that satellite radio (Howard Stern or not) would JUMP at the opportunity to sign him where he could practically say whatever he wants?

Why not a third option like, say, repeatedly kicked in the nuts? Not that I advocate violence, but this is a big issue...especially when you have all these fuckers like Imus, O'Reilly, Hannity, and all the rest spilling hatred onto the airwaves 24/7. It's been said before, but "Network" was the most prophetic film ever made.

I never listen to radio and I gave my television away ages ago...but this weekend I was visiting someone and they had a tv so I channel surfed. What a fucking wasteland of mindless entertainment. I mean, when will people say enough is enough, when will they go their windows and say"i'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore"?

Sorry for the rant, but why the fuck do people even listen to the radio or watch television anymore? It's pathetic.

This appears to be a typical diversion from real issues at hand.

It would be wise just to fire him,this guy isn't a shock jock he has had presidential candidates on his show and for people to use the shock jock thing as excuse is wrong.Remember when mahr was fired from hbo and savage was fired from msbc because of similar comments imus should get the same treatment as those guys.

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Originally Posted by TSChaser

This appears to be a typical diversion from real issues at hand.

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From what I read Sirius 'screwed the pooch' by paying Howard Stern
$500 million, and was forced into a merger with XM Satellite Radio. So
having Imus go over to satellite may not be the best course of action.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...illDoomed.aspx

Millions of people bought Sirius shares at $6 to $8 for their retirement
accounts, and rode them down to $3.50, never losing faith in Stern. At
this point, they need to face up to the fact that they're screwed. Stern
made half a billion. They will make nothing. They can file SIRI stock
certificates away under "S" for stupid. They blew it.

In the Imus instance I say fine the hell out of the Imus.

never underestimate the power of listeners, while it's true that Stern's faithful followed him sparingly to Sirius, IMUS is a whole other story. The merger was also a save for XM more than it was for Sirius, which was failing dramatically due to Sirius signing Stern and XM's own shock jocks leaving briefly afterwards to go back to FM.

my point was that IMUS makes a good profit now, but satellite radio would make him a killer offer, it would not be in the same league as Stern's offer but he'd be set for life and free to say what he wants without the FCC, NBC, or CBS breathing down his back.

whatsupwithat sez
I gave my television away ages ago

so, uh, how do you follow transvids? :whoa

Imus has a LONG history of offending other groups.
He called his bosses at CBS "money grubbing jews".
The anti-defamation league got involved but Imus didnt get fired.
If he wasnt fired for that then he wont be fired for this.
Imus says things that should not be said over the airwaves....he has no filter......he speaks as if he is in a bar talking to his boys.
The funny thing is those women at RUTGERS could EASILY kick Imus up the ass and their is nothing he could do about it!
If said it before and I will say it again......all these people on radio and TV that act this way are WHITE.

Im sorry but i have to take the opposite road here...Im very opposed to any kind of censorship.

Fuck the FCC....

If the dude wants to make a comment, no matter how backwards or retarded, he should be free to say whatever the fuck he wants to say.

DO NOT LET THE SHEEP ERODE YOUR FREEDOM...

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Originally Posted by BlackAdder

Im sorry but i have to take the opposite road here...Im very opposed to any kind of censorship.

Fuck the FCC....

If the dude wants to make a comment, no matter how backwards or retarded, he should be free to say whatever the fuck he wants to say.

DO NOT LET THE SHEEP ERODE YOUR FREEDOM...

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He can say whatever he wants be there are consequences......
What if someone goes after Imus or anyone else for that matter?
He should censor himself.......what he said was fucked up.

On Imus's show everyone is a target, his name calling is certainly not limited to any age, race or gender. For lack of better term he is equal opportunity for rants, snide comments. Anyone in the public forum is a target for Imus and his cohorts. I saw that he will be suspended. But to say only white people make these type of dumb remarks, lets not forget Tim Hardaway, Tyrell Owens, Isaih Washington, all have said and will continue to say things that are offensive.

Uhh...dont you see the illogic of your statement?????????


If there are consequences to what he says, then ergo, he cant say whatever he wants now can he??

He shouldnt have to censor himself, thats the whole point of the 1st Amendment. In case youve all forgotten:

Freedom of the press (or press freedom) is the guarantee by a government of free public press for its citizens and their associations, extended to members of news gathering organizations, and their published reporting. It also extends to news gathering, and processes involved in obtaining information for public distribution.

In the U.S. this right is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution

AS WELL AS

Freedom of speech is the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly WITHUT FEAR OF CENSORSHIP OR PUNISHMENT. The right is preserved in the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights and is granted formal recognition by the laws of most nations.

Do you get it now???

Have you listened to rap lyrics, and heard how they describe women?
Is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson advocating boycotting their cd's and concerts?
NO.
What he said was fucked up, but there is a double standard.
btw, i'm not a republican.

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Originally Posted by johnb

Have you listened to rap lyrics, and heard how they describe women?
Is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson advocating boycotting their cd's and concerts?
NO.
What he said was fucked up, but there is a double standard.
btw, i'm not a republican.

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double standard or not...calling college basketball players "nappy headed hos" is wrong. I guess some of you wouldn't mind him call them "niggers" next. It's freedom of speech though...hmmm...

FCC rules usually get you punished for this. If you want to look at it that way. I haven't heard any talks about fines or being fired. Others have been fired for less.

For what it's worth, here's my assessment of this drama's current main players:

1) Don Imus: a complete tool.
2) Jesse jackson: another complete tool.
3) Al Sharpton: yet another complete tool.

That about sums it up.

-Quinn

PC retards the progress that has been made under the radar. I don't see color, I see a face, I see eyes. I hear what they say! I judge them based on this.

My daughter, has had no racial bias in her upbringing. EVER! Yet the media and the so called spokesmen of the black race are keeping in the forefront. Things like Imus said would be unnoticed if flame wasn't applied to the fire. I could go into Black comedians doing the same thing, but that isn't the point. I don't think they should be censored nor should Imus.

What they say should be evaluated by each individual and each individual should act according to their beliefs. Stop letting a bunch of talking heads decide how you think. It's seems every statement anyone makes is disected and .......

Oh fuck it. The blacks have self centered retards and the whites have self centered retards and our fucking beloved media keeps keeping them in the forefront!

Imus who? I mean who really listens to these dregs of radio society... Shock jocks have to be the lowest form of intelligent life by making their pay, humiliating, degrading, and otherwise filling space on the radio dial with sophomoric repetative drivel. Why should anyone be appalled that this guy made a comment like that...he's not being payed for his intellect to elevate prose to anything more than sub-sapien poo flinging. He's a wart on a fly's ass.

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Originally Posted by ottorocket

Imus who? I mean who really listens to these dregs of radio society... Shock jocks have to be the lowest form of intelligent life by making their pay, humiliating, degrading, and otherwise filling space on the radio dial with sophomoric repetative drivel. Why should anyone be appalled that this guy made a comment like that...he's not being payed for his intellect to elevate prose to anything more than sub-sapien poo flinging. He's a wart on a fly's ass.

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Cogently well put. Unfortunately, there are those out there who follow their divisive and hateful slop as gospel. Yes, there are some Americans that are that fuckin' naive, ignorant, gullible, and stupid.

When Imus comes back from his two week suspension, he should be required to wear a shirt that says "Don't Mess With Rutgers" on it.

BABA BOOEY BABA BOOEY HOWARD STERNS PENIS

Why does this remind of a recent South Park episode?


I work in radio,I've met Don Imus numerous times. My grandma said if you can't say anything good about someone you shouldn't say anything at all? No more comments from me on Don.

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Originally Posted by peggygee

From what I read Sirius 'screwed the pooch' by paying Howard Stern
$500 million, and was forced into a merger with XM Satellite Radio. So
having Imus go over to satellite may not be the best course of action.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...illDoomed.aspx

Millions of people bought Sirius shares at $6 to $8 for their retirement
accounts, and rode them down to $3.50, never losing faith in Stern. At
this point, they need to face up to the fact that they're screwed. Stern
made half a billion. They will make nothing. They can file SIRI stock
certificates away under "S" for stupid. They blew it.

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I don't know... SIRI ran up on a possible merger with XM, and drew back when the FCC decided they were going to make them jump through a bunch of hoops limiting any possible upside to the deal (read - wouldn't allow a possible monopoly), but in terms of finances, XM is in much worse shape. If there is a race to the finish, XM beats Sirius to bankruptcy allowing Sirius to recover by raising rates.

XM is trading at a higher price, but their market cap is only 75% of Sirius even after SIRI took a dump. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't buy either but at least Sirius has a glimmer of hope.

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Originally Posted by gregh512

On Imus's show everyone is a target, his name calling is certainly not limited to any age, race or gender. For lack of better term he is equal opportunity for rants, snide comments. Anyone in the public forum is a target for Imus and his cohorts. I saw that he will be suspended. But to say only white people make these type of dumb remarks, lets not forget Tim Hardaway, Tyrell Owens, Isaih Washington, all have said and will continue to say things that are offensive.

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Big co-sign.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel

never underestimate the power of listeners, while it's true that Stern's faithful followed him sparingly to Sirius, IMUS is a whole other story. The merger was also a save for XM more than it was for Sirius, which was failing dramatically due to Sirius signing Stern and XM's own shock jocks leaving briefly afterwards to go back to FM.

my point was that IMUS makes a good profit now, but satellite radio would make him a killer offer, it would not be in the same league as Stern's offer but he'd be set for life and free to say what he wants without the FCC, NBC, or CBS breathing down his back.

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That occurred to me, also. But I think that despite all his bitching about MSNBC, he really likes having both a TV and radio audience. He can tout his favorite charities more successfully. The political guests and analysts have a better audience. And the comedy bits by Rob Bartlett, for example, are better on TV.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel

never underestimate the power of listeners, while it's true that Stern's faithful followed him sparingly to Sirius, IMUS is a whole other story. The merger was also a save for XM more than it was for Sirius, which was failing dramatically due to Sirius signing Stern and XM's own shock jocks leaving briefly afterwards to go back to FM.

my point was that IMUS makes a good profit now, but satellite radio would make him a killer offer, it would not be in the same league as Stern's offer but he'd be set for life and free to say what he wants without the FCC, NBC, or CBS breathing down his back.

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Sparingly isn't accurate. Sirius had 600,000 subscribers when Howard first announced his move, and now they have well over 6 million. Most of those are are Stern fans.

Are far as Imus moving to satellite, why would they offer him anything? His ratings are in the toilet, he's damn near 70 years old, and he's just plain boring. Hes reinvented himself as some sort of beltway insider, which is the only reason he has any notoriety.

Imus's comments and suspension have nothing to do with the FCC. It's not a censorship issue, it's about keeping him respectable so politicians will continue appering on his show.

It's funny b/c I'm black and when I first heard it I was a little shocked, but now I'm kinda like "so what, get over it". These shock jocks say ALL kinds of insulting things. They insult all types of people, yet when it's a black person the media gets in an uproar.

It's also funny how long we've come since the days of when insulting black people was considered "ok" and a norm. It's good to see we've made that kind of progress, but I think Whites are now being over apologetic, and it's mainly b/c many blacks are now in more positions of power (and by power I of course mean money)

And why does anyone give a fuck what Don Imus has to say? He's an old irrelevant douche bag.

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Originally Posted by peggygee

In the Imus instance I say fine the hell out of the Imus.

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Fine him for what? Making an unfunny joke?

nappy-headed hos

I get the 'ho' part, but "nappy-headed"...Uh?

I dunno --I think there's a huge double standard -----and I think any punishment is too much ---I dunno ---like yeah --rap music ---Dave Chapelle ----if we are all equal --we should all be able to say the same things ---------------yeah --maybe rap music and Chapelle's statements and insults --or racial slurrs ---are in jest ----but it wasn't like Don Imus was YELLING --or DAMNING these women to hell eternal ---he was being a wise ass --tongue in cheek --smirk smirk -carry on ---trying to be FUNNY ---kinda like Chapelle --------seriously ---if Dave Chapelle called some chick a "nappy headed ho" ---in a sketch/skit ------do you think anyone would give a crap? ---



and yeah ---what the hell is "nappy-headed" ---anyways?

hey thanks for the answer ---I honestly have never heard that description in my life ---

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hey thanks for the answer ---I honestly have never heard that description in my life ---

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LOL I remember when Ice Cube came out with a song called "The Nappy Dugout" it took me awhile to figure out what the hell he was talking about.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

Nappy here is when a persons here is of a wool like texture as seen on sheep. The hair is so thick that the average comb may not be able to make a full sweep through. Mostly Africans or decedents of africans have this type of hair. It's generally portrayed as being a negative in white society. And Since it's seen as a negative, calling someone nappy headed is grounds of disrespect. Trust, if someone outside of the urban community was vocal about that in person, they get their asses whooped.

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Are you genuinely offended by this? Why do you care about some stupid joke an old crypt keeper, that no one listens to, made?

I always say, Speak your mind, but mind your speech. This isn't a first amendment issue, at all. He has the right of free speech and he used it. This is over the consequences of his use of that right. He was given the privilege of using the airwaves to express himself and in my opinion, he badly abused that privilege. Now other people get to use their right to free speech to express their disgust at his comments and his bosses are listening. If he gets fired, as I think he should, its an economic issue, not a first amendment one. He can still say whatever he wants. He just won't get paid to do so or have the same lofty platform to shout from. He can spout his unfunny bigotry from a bar stool, not a broadcast booth.

FK

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Originally Posted by Unisex

Nappy here is when a persons here is of a wool like texture as seen on sheep. The hair is so thick that the average comb may not be able to make a full sweep through.

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Thanks for explaining that.
Over here, a "nappy" is something you wrap around a baby's arse.

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Originally Posted by Mac_Hine

Are far as Imus moving to satellite, why would they offer him anything? His ratings are in the toilet

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You don't know what you are talking about. From the nytimes:


Mr. Imus is one of the most popular radio hosts in the country, with millions of daily listeners on more than 70 stations around the country. The television simulcast of his show on MSNBC is surging in the ratings — “Imus in the Morning,” which the network simulcasts with the New York radio station WFAN, gained 100,000 viewers in the last year, for an average daily total of 358,000, according to Nielsen estimates.

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Originally Posted by Quinn

For what it's worth, here's my assessment of this drama's current main players:

1) Don Imus: a complete tool.
2) Jesse jackson: another complete tool.
3) Al Sharpton: yet another complete tool.

That about sums it up.

-Quinn

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Co-sign.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

Huh? Of course we're the offended. It's a term that everyone in the community is offended by. It's not just the term though. It's the fact that he was able to make the statement, but when a Black or Hispanic American wants to make a statement about Caucasian people for profit, it's immediately shunt and censored.

If you've never heard or listen to Paul Mooney's Race CD. People need to listen to it. It's 10 years old, But it paints that exact picture of what's going on today.

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Getting worked up about it is just making it worse. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are turning an unfunny, throw away comment made by some asshole windbag into a media circus for their own political benefit.

Best thing to do is just turn off the radio if you don't like what he says.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

Huh? Of course we're the offended. It's a term that everyone in the community is offended by. It's not just the term though. It's the fact that he was able to make the statement, but when a Black or Hispanic American wants to make a statement about Caucasian people for profit, it's immediately shunt and censored.

If you've never heard or listen to Paul Mooney's Race CD. People need to listen to it. It's 10 years old, But it paints that exact picture of what's going on today.

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Dude, can you please tell me when a black person wanted to make a statement about Caucasian people for profit and it was immediately shunt and censored? From my understanding, this is the most common way a black person can make profit by making a statement about a caucasian person.

Remember the Dave Chapelle skit where he went back in time with the Time Haters and shot a slave master and said he'd do it every episode if he could? Do you think the reverse could happen?

Are you aware of the term "The man's holding me down." You think this would work in the reverse?

I'm not defending Imus, but I think what you said was hugely inaccurate. Infact, I'd be very interested to hear of a black person who made a statement that was censored for being offensive to white people. I think that would have to be a skit in itself. Did you watch the black guy who went on Fox News and started saying black people offended him? That was comedy.