are there any transexuals with real jobs or professions or do they all live of porn and prostitution?
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are there any transexuals with real jobs or professions or do they all live of porn and prostitution?
Yeah, they're lumberjacks, plumbers, truck drivers, and security guards ..oh and they've just started transitioning at 45.
are any secretaries or anything else?
I have a "real" job. I transitioned young.
Here are many others. Not everyone is a beauty queen, but neither are all genetic women.
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...successes.html
do you have a photo of yourself true beauty?
I'm not quite sure that Ballbreakers question was sincere, but the website that you linked to TrueBeauty is one of the most informative & REAL sites that I've seen. Great posting!
i was sincere because most that i have met dont work a regular job not trying to offend anyone just asking for true information.
Here is True Beauty... Sorry for blowing your spot.
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/Vanessa%20V/Vanessa's%20Story.html
And real world TS's living among you...
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...e%20E1%20m.jpg
I don't know if that photo is going to post, but it gives you the idea. Pretty, normal, transsexual women.
I like that you asked for a photo as soon as you got an answer back. Classic. "I'm sincere and looking for something beyond porn...but do you got a pic?" Although the name True Beauty does get the imagination rolling.
I know a lot of girls that do not escort and have never done porn. Just because it's the most accessible/visible professions for us men that are interested in t-girls does not mean it's the standard. One of the most beautiful and passable girls I've ever met manages a furniture shop. You gotta get out more. Meet girls in real life.
Buddy
I'm a hermit, and don't get out a lot, but I know TS's that are computer programmers, graphic designers, hardware engineers, authors, and contractors (Home improvement, etc.).
Hell, some of them are even cute. :)
One, a F2M, was at the birth of my son.
Remember the venue in which you ask the question. HA is, with no shame, a porn-centric forum. Many of the gurls who post here or who are yakked about here are in the sex industry to some extent. Yet they are not =ALL= of the TS's on the planet.
Not to get too deep here, but as an admirer of transgendered women, my interest runs the gamut. I like seeing sexy hot tgirl porn, but I also enjoy reading about the real lives and situations of some of the girls that post here. Hey, we're all people and we're all just trying to live a life. It's nice to see that there are so many success stories, and I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg.
are there any in newyork that lead simple lives
Do any of them knit?
Does =anyone= in NY lead a "simple life"? :?Quote:
Originally Posted by ballbreaker
lol there are a lot of transexuals that aren't in the industry not that being in it is a issue -- But there are plenty of companies that are accepting and some that even pay for hormones and surgeries for example Best Buy will and so will Dell
great info kelly thanks
I only have had the pleasure of having the acquaintance of one actual transsexual woman, and she worked in a factory... a long way from being an escort or porn star. it crosses my mind that if a TS has transitioned properly (clumsy wording, I know), most people would never have any reason to think she had ever been anyone else. As it should be... they are not trying to fulfill a fantasy, or anyone elses' fantasies, they are simply trying to live the lives they should heve been able to from the beginning.
i know thats right vicky.... :wink:
While work in the sex industry can be quite lucrative for some
transwomen, it can also be very physically demanding and
mentally gruelling.
Work in the sex industry does not just consist of the 'sucking
and fucking' that many of the clients believe it does.
Women who escort or perform in adult entertainment, utilize a
multitude of skills. They must market and advertise themselves
much like any other business owner would promote themselves.
Many transwomen also become fairly sophisticated in their abilities
to do web site development, and e-commerce as they employ their
craft.
Further they may or not have employees who depend on them for
their livelihood, and have all the tax liabilities of any other
individual, proprietorship, or corporation.
Clearly, as business entrepreneurs they have strong beliefs
about a market opportunity and are willing to accept a high level
of personal, professional or financial risk to pursue that opportunity.
Having made the statement above, I would be remiss if I
did not point out that much like any other business owner,
or sole proprietor the tranwoman who works in the sex
industry must be very cognizant of making good business
decisions.
The sex worker has a very finite earning period. Her peak earning
period may be from 18 - 35. If a transwoman has made the
decision to work in the sex industry she must take great care to
insure that she will be able to earn a decent living once she leaves
the industry.
Perhaps she has set up other income producing ventures. Often she
has taken the money that she has earned from the sex industry and
furthered her education.
A woman in 'the industry' may be likened to an athelete, or to any
other entertainer. As a business woman it is very important that
she insure the longevity of her earning potential.
That would be sound business practice.
As has been pointed out ..many TG women work in the Health sector .. my former GF (a pre-op TS) works in the National Health Service here in UK,within the surgical field.
Her employers know all about her & the only documentation remaining in her "former" name is her Birth Certificate (which will be changed after SRS).
Naturally,I'm not going to post her pic for obvious reasons.
Several of her TG friends enjoy senior positions in various other fields,including one working for a well known UK High Street Bank.
Bye for now,
Poacher.
Co-sign!Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
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Unisex, I must beg to differ with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
It has been postulated that roughly 33% of tranwomen work in the
sex industry.
It may appear that that the majority of transwomen are employed
as sex workers, but this is due to them needing to be visible by
virtue of thir high profile occupations.
Thus the transwomen that you are seeing are either women who
allow themselves to be known, or women who do not pass well.
There is a fairly high percentage of transwomen who pass quite
well, and one would have no reason to question their gender
status based upon a mere quick glance or brief encounter.
Tranwoman are a diverse population, with some working in
blue, pink, white collar realms, as well as the sex industry.
The transwomen you may know of may either fall into two categories,
highly attractive sex workers, or transwomen who do not pass very
well.
However the reality lies somewhere in between.
I was working as a call center operator in the summer as my summer job. I am not planning to become a sex worker.
Anything that requires effort and work is a "real job".I'm sure the porn and sex industry is very demanding and is not all glamour.We see the end result not the time and effort it takes to look the way they do or the hours they may have to work.Or the myriad other things they have to do or put up with.
can we post some pictures of them at work?
Ha ha Ballbreaker .. in the case of my former GF,it would do no good,as she wears a surgical cap,facemask & gown at work .. so you'd still be none the wiser.
Besides,it would be very rude to post another "private" persons pic on the web .. without their express permission & I like to think I'm too much of a gentleman to do that ... sorry.
Bye for now,
Poacher.
Why make $12/hour at a proper job when one can make $350 hoeing? Hmm the answer comes on many forms.
1. "Working" is illegal, and not everyone relishes the idea of engaging in criminal acts, no matter how it's sugar coated as "victimless"
2. The deeper love of self and pride and respect that comes from being a productive and contributing member of society. The ability to hold one's head high and give a truthful answer when asked "what do you do for a living"?
3. The satisfaction the comes from doing an honest days work and knowing your income does not rely upon being intimate with persons you normally wouldn't give the time of day to on the street. Having those same persons on some level think they are better than yourself, after all you offered yourself to them for money.
There are lots of natural women working in positions that pay very little, by some rationale expressed here they all should go on the game.
The "Madonna/Whore" syndrome is very much still alive, and many men (despite what they may say) do not respect "working girls". They may have relations with them, even go around with them socially, but that is about the extent of things.
As for the trannies, if working was such a picnic, why are many of them so "angry" & "bitter"? Again, if you were depending upon being with several men per day or week for your daily bread, how content would you be? Things might be different if the men all gorgeous young males (of whatever race/nationality that floats your boat). Were polite and showed up to do nothing but make the girl happy, but the reality is far different.
Another thing is the constant stress of daily life engaged in criminal activity. Wondering who knows what, dealing with nosy neighbors, dealing with nasty comments. Or the flip side, people who know your game and want a cut. Doormen, pimps, lazy bfs, what have you can hold a working girl's occupation over her head to get what they want. The girls have little recourse and very little options.
Finally there is probably the incredible loneliness that comes from leading such life. Outside of a circle of people engaged in simliar or other acts, society can be very limited. Even when girls do go out, there is always the chance of being outed not only as a trannie, but as a hooker/sex worker as well. If you think the former changes how people view a person, the later has even more weight.
Well, I'm a licensed cosmetologist working at a full service salon, I have also worked as Make Up artist for M.A.C, while attending cosmetology school I worked at a Call Center/CSR for an International calling card company, and for Whitman Walker Clinic (funded in part by Elizabeth Taylor) as CSR for their 202-232-AIDS hotline. And yes doing all that including dancing at a club on weekends never made 300$ an hour, but I was happy with myself and that is all that mattered to me...
Most "trannys" do have real jobs.......blowing out lurkers assholes!
Most of the tgirls I've met from the Philippines seem to be very well educated and work regular jobs. There are a couple clubs in New York where these girls hang out, almost everyone works a regular job. I've met a few rn's and one computer programmer
where do they hang out ? i dont see man photos of phillipinos on here why?
I know at least 10 filipina TS`s who are nurses in NYC and Jersey.
Me too... know a few that make quite a nice living in the medical field.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatrickFromNYC
These girls may have more challenges than others at times in life, but the ladies that are smart and driven will make great lives for themselves.
I beg to differ with Peggy - but studies have shown that between 30 and 50% of all transsexuals (M-F) work in the sex industry.
And the "studies" are worthless BS.
And I'd say it's higher than that, more like 70% in many cities.
Others are older folk who transitioned on their jobs as engineers and professors and live this perfect little life.
Not to Diss Jenny Boyland... and the TS doctors and nurses out there, but let's get real. Most non sex worker TS's earn less than $15,000 a year.
Here's a link to a study done in San Diego last year. The ONLY recent definative data. And it's WORTHLESS.
http://www.justatransgirl.com/SanDiegoNeeds.pdf
Read page 40. Out of 136 people interviewed they interviewed 3 sex workers. Can anybody say - bullshit.
Same thing with the studies quoted - one was done in 1998 in SF (TEN YEARS ago), another in Houston where 67 TS's were studied.
67 - out of what? An ESTIMATED 750,000 plus transsexuals in the United States.
If only 30% are sex workers that's a QUARTER MILLION transsexual prostitutes.
Most are young, I'm an anomally. Most have no education and NO OTHER OPTION. Most don't earn what the superstars earn. Most street girls seem to have drug issues.
LE is only interested in putting people in jail for percieved "crimes" executed in private between consenting adults. Nowhere that I am aware of is there any program to help girls get out of the biz and into high paying career jobs.
We had a DR. at the local clinic suggest my partner and I should break up trade in our luxury apt. in the better part of town and get rooms in the San Diego slum where most of the trannies live, and work in some kind of service job - not that we could get hired. THAT's considered support.
If you want to get girls out of the business give them education, training and paths into carear jobs at the median average wage, which in San Deigo is $60,000 a year. Then with TWO incomes they can afford to buy a car, and a middle class house, and take a vacation occasionally and stay at a Holiday Inn instead of the Hilton.
It can't be done at a MacDonalds salary. And in So Cal unless you are latino or other foreign worker you simply cannot get hired. And without experience you can't get into management - and very few places will hire a TS for a management job.
All those great computer science jobs are going to India - or what they do now is they bring the Indians here at 1/2 what Americans used to make. So that's pretty much shot as a career.
I used to make $125 an hour writing database software in 2000 - the same work is now going for roughly $15.00.
My partner and I wanted to open a little food booth at various farmers markets and community events - since nobody is going to hire us. Well, let's see the markets (which can be quite lucrative) laughed at me, told me to call back in a YEAR. I've treid to get us into every festival in the county (about 20). It's always the same, anything that you might possibly be able to do ten people are already doing it, they have years long waiting lists for spots.
We've looked into opening a couple of franchises - one needs $250,000 min the other $750,000. Hell, if we had 750 grand we'd retire and move to the mountains. Even if we could get an SBA loan... I found a great location for a sandwich shop the other day in strip mall in San Diego - where it would be perfect. They want $8,500 a month rent for a space about the size of our living room.
So yeah, I'm a porn actress and a prostitute. And considered a piece of trash by most of the trans "community" who isn't in my field, and the to appease it's fetish, the government spends inordinate amounts of public funds to put me and my friends in jail for the crime of having sex with other adults in private.
Sorry I tend to rant about this stuff. Especially when people without a clue discuss their fabulous lives as transsexual brain surgeons or whatever.
But at least I get paid to have sex with my lover and not too many of you can say that!
Sigh,
TS Jamie
Better still are the people on a pornboard looking for real love. "I'm fed up playing around and now I'm ready to settle down. Anyone else here on a pornboard but not interested in porn?" :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Wood
The blonde in this pic is my girlfriend Gabby, a post-op who is an escort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
Good point. I had a "real" job for a hot second. Trust me it wasn't for me. My dream from a child was to be a showgirl, so I worked what I had to do to get there. I enjoy being an entertainer and that is a real job. Escorting and porn are real jobs. I thought a real job was a service or skill you have and use to get paid. Anybody who thinks escorting isn't a real job needs to try it and see if they have what it takes to do the job well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex