Wonder how many providers & clients will hold off having fun until we get some definite answers in the spread of Coronavirus?
i was all ready to see a gal in Chicago but am backing off.
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Wonder how many providers & clients will hold off having fun until we get some definite answers in the spread of Coronavirus?
i was all ready to see a gal in Chicago but am backing off.
I'm in Spain at the moment... I'd have to tell the police dotted along the road I was on the way to see 'Carmen Pollaita' looool
Now's a good time for surfing your memories and tube sites
Good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yepyepp
Seems to be a Designer virus infecting this Forum...
don't fuck around now. better to be safe than sorry.
Stupid news/media does not report that the common flu virus so far as been more dangerous. The only thing they seem to report is information that causes more panic and stupidity.
Track it here without media interference:Quote:
Originally Posted by ls1290
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
This coronavirus is new, so the danger is unknown, but over 7,000 have died so far. And there's no vaccine for it.
I have the cockavirus it has invaded my laptop ad now it keeps popping up pixs of girls with dicks. Stay safe everybody!!:cheers:
it's a shame but then public health trumps topping and bottoming or sucking cock.
sex workers i guess are at the brunt.
I'm curious about how it is affecting HA members outside the US and UK. Hey Nikka, how is it where you are?
not only no vaccine, but no proven effective meds, unlike flu, which can be mitigated with Tamiflu
I wonder how much of this is correct. I know a few cases that "died because of coronavirus" and you read the article and they had stage 4 cancer. It's like saying the guy died of a heart attack, but ignoring the car that hit him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
I think you are missing the point. It's people with serious pre-existing conditions that are most at risk of dying from the corona-virus. Even if they were at risk of dying anyway, catching the virus would bring it on earlier. Your analogy is around the wrong way - the virus is the car that hits them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superrage
It's important to distinguish between two different issues:Quote:
Originally Posted by ls1290
1. What's the risk to a normal person who is not elderly and doesn't have an existing condition that could make them vulnerable?
2. What's the risk that the health system will be overwhelmed by an upsurge in serious cases, resulting in more deaths because people can't get treatment?
Maybe the risk to normal people is not so great, but it's mainly the second issue that is motivating the restrictions. They are trying to slow the spread of the virus (flatten the curve) so that the health system is better able to cope. Even though lots of people die from normal flu it's not such an issue because there isn't a sudden massive surge in cases, so the health system can cope.
I consider Johns Hopkins University as credible a source as you can get. Do you know a more credible one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Superrage
Personally I think it's quite serious.. :geek:
Health wise, my lungs are atypical and this could be very bad if I get it. I'm vaccinated against most types of pneumonia but this is a viral one with no vaccine as of yet..
Most things fail to kill me tho and make me suffer horribly for days or weeks instead.. It's been many years since I had a lung infection tho..
Financially this is going to be a DISASTER! :shock:
Let the billionaires bail out their own shit tho! Don't use tax dollars for that!
Hopefully, you'll be fine, Alexis.
Hopefully she will, but it depends a lot on other people doing the right thing and following the medical advice about hygiene, social distancing, self-isolation etc. The more people don't do that because it's inconvenient and they think the risks are exaggerated, the more people like Alexis will be put at risk.
i like how people are saying this shit is overblown. it's not. OK, stockpiling loo roll is funny. but then even if most people have minor symptoms, then it means many people off work. schools, shops, etc. shutting down.
it's an unpopular opinion but I support the shutdowns.
people aren't taking this shit really seriously. Like I see people sneezing out loud in public - DUDE. don't people think? even if they smelt some ground pepper or have an allergy, i don't give a shit. it's a bitch that there are no sports. And i was really hoping to go to a sex club in London and Paris but thishas to be put on hold. but there the greater good has to trump all this shit.
From what I see, the EU is banning travel.
Just a question to any girls here - has business gone down? Most big cities in Europe are being locked down. I know London has been a ghost town lately. Hard times i know, but we'll all pull through.
Definitely.. 50% and climbing.. once they lock everything down there will be little to nothing at all..Quote:
Originally Posted by holzz
I do cam sessions, phone sessions, custom videos.. But if EVERYONE is locked down that'll be meager too I'm sure..
In Canada I estimate 1 week to lock down.. 2 at the most..
A little part of me wants to entertain the theory that this was intentional to let authoritarian & nationalist regimes enact martial law.. :geek:
'the coronavirus is just the pin, the debt bubble is the problem'Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexisDVyne
onlyfans to the rescue
Unfortunately this isn't going to work very good..Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBest
I don't use it but the people I know that do have seen a decrease not an increase from this..
There's also thousands of people piling in at the same time all trying to get subscribers..
The only one making good money is onlyfans.. :geek:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csz1vg - Information on the virus and what is being done to combat it from the BBC
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/ - detailed dashboard to follow all the fun.
when this is over, if the us does not make better decisions, this is the end of the pax americana and china will officially run this world.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBest
People probably don't want to spend money on non-essentials when they are uncertain about what the future will bring. There will be more people at home with time on their hands, but they won't necessarily have money to spend.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexisDVyne
Some helpful information from reliable and qualified sources:
SARS-CoV-2 / CoVID-19
SARS – Severe acute respiratory syndrome
MERS – Middle eastern respiratory syndrome
nCoV – Novel Coronavirus
SARS-CoV – the virus that caused SARS
SARS-CoV-2 – The virus that is causing the current outbreak
CoVID-19 – Clinical syndrome caused by this coronavirus
Coronavirus:
Is a group of viruses that have a halo/crown-like appearance when viewed with microscope.
CoVID19:
is a new disease and we are still learning how it spreads, the severity of illness it causes, and to what extent it may spread. What is below includes what we know so far.
Clinical manifestations of CoVID19:
• CoVID-19 onsets around 1 week (average of 5 days) after infection. Longer than 14 days onset is very rare. Research (March 2020) shows that the median incubation period was estimated to be 5.1 days (95%), and 97.5% of those who develop symptoms will do so within 11.5 days of infection. à Based on this data, suggested quarantine window of 14 seems adequate for CoVID19. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32150748
• Flu is characterized by abrupt onset of fever, when CoVID 19 evolves more gradually
• Lower respiratory illness (pneumonia) is more common with elderly, and those with chronic medical conditions (e.g. hypertension, diabetes).
• At this point, CoVID 19 in children is less severe. No deaths observed in children under 10 in China from CoVID 19 (this also may be due because we provide more medical attention to children with fever).
• Fever and cough are the most common symptoms (80% of cases), and some develop shortness of breath (30%)
• Current mortality estimates for CoVID19 are between 0.5% - 3%. This is confounded because of lack of serology and not being able to test everybody. It is assumed that the number of people infected is greater than what is reported, hence the estimations could be lower, but probably higher than the flue.
• CoVID19 appears to have peak infectivity during symptomatic period, but transmission from asymptomatic people have been documented.
• Research from Chinese Experience https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2762130
Out of 72,000 patients (100%):
- 81% were mild cases of CoVID19
- 14% severe
- 5% critical
o mortality rates increasing with age (>70 – 90 years of age)
o No deaths occurred in the group aged 9 years and younger.
Treatment:
• There is not proven CoVID19 treatment at this point. Treatment is relying on supportive care (= Monitoring and maintaining oxygenation/gas exchange and providing assisted ventilation where necessary, treating co-infections etc.)
• However, many drugs (used for other infections and medical conditions) are currently being studied in a vast number of clinical trials and are showing good results.
• CoVID19 Vaccines have been already submitted for clinical trials
• Immunity (some anecdotal and some questionable cases of re-infections at this point). At this point, it is likely that people develop immunity to this particular “brand” of SARS-CoV-2, until the virus mutates. This is the case of the flue as well, and it explains why people need to get annual vaccine shots from the flue: as the flue virus mutates, the vaccines adapts.
Prevention:
• Most upper respiratory pathogens are primary transmitted through droplets that can settle within 2 meters between people (generated by coughing, sneezing, talking, singing…etc.):Person to person spread. SARS-CoV-2 is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.
• It is possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nsmission.html
• To protect yourself from infection in the community, hand hygiene is the most important measure:
o Soap (any kind) and water works the best – 20 seconds hand wash
o If you don´t have water/soap, alcohol gels are good as well
o Decontamination of surfaces (cleaning) of highly touched surfaces (door knobs, light switches…etc.).
• Routine use of medical mask to protect yourself is generally unnecessary (medical masks are designed to prevent transmission from a surgeon to an open wound/or to an immunodeficient person etc., not to protect the mask wearer from droplet pathogens).
• When sick, wearing a medical mask can be effective to prevent transmission to others (e.g. if living in a household in quarantine with a confirmed case).
• Avoid crowds, prolonged contact with sick in enclosed spaces, unnecessary travels/movements
• Do not go to clinics and hospitals, to protect those who are the most vulnerable.
• Sleep well (lack of sleep increases your vulnerability to infections)
• Don´t smoke
• Avoid Alcohol
Policies:
• Flattening the curve refers to using protective practices to slow the rate of CoVID-19 infection so hospitals have room, supplies and doctors for all of the patients who need care. By doing so, it assures good medical assistance to vulnerable population from CoVID19 but also ensures that those who really need medical support can access it (from many other medical conditions: cancer, HIV, surgeries, chronic diseases…etc.).
• “Social distancing” is currently the most important factor we can control in the CoVID-19 outbreak.
Some reliable sources of information:
• Global situation: Gives a highlight of the current trends
Situation reports from WHO (updated daily)
https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...uation-reports
• How to protect yourself / symptoms /general questions:
CDC (Centre for Disease Control and Prevention) – CoVID19 – How to protect yourself / If you think you are sick
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
• CoVID19 – Protect yourself
https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...ronavirus-2019
If this research comes to fruition we will all be better off https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE...vaccine-619101
Unfortunately, you might be right. Credit markets have started to seize up, which is what triggered the financial crisis in 2008. Market interest rates are rising when they should be falling because the economy is weakening. This may be another boom that turns out to be built on quicksand.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBest
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Originally Posted by ls1290
According to John Hopkins University's tracker site, there is a 4.29% mortality rate (total deaths divided by total confirmed cases). Something like 1 out of 25 people is extraordinarily high --- and far more fatal than common influenza!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
Of course, given the worldwide shortage of test kits, the number of infections it likely much higher. On the other hand, through, JHU's data necessarily relies countries accurately (i.e., not under) reporting the number of deaths. I am highly suspicious that the data from China and Iran under reports fatal cases. Also, for example, JHU's data does not even include North Korea, where South Korean and western defense analysts have seen clear signs of a massively deadly COVID-19 outbreak.
All of which is to say, i simply shocked by how many messages I'm getting on Grindr right now looking for hookups. I think it is absolutely insane that people are still hooking up with randoms!
This coronavirus is deadly serious. Although those teens and twenties think they can get the virus in a bar or social event and suffer no ill effects, don't forget that when you go home you could easily pass it on to your parents without realising it and for them it could be very very serious. Please, please keep away from crowded places until advised it is safe. Could you live with the thought you had accidentally infected friends and family. Not far from where I live someone who didn't know they were infected went to church last weekend and infected 24 people. Like I say, this coronavirus is very very dangerous.
Ya it's hitting the fan now!
2 million with no jobs in Canada & 20 million in the USA & climbing!
There's no way the governments are going to implement their programs in time to get people money for April's rent or even May's rent I'd say..
Especially when people at that level start getting sick too.. It's going to be a shit show of epic diarrhea proportions!
Here we don't have enough tests, they are not testing everyone with symptoms and they are not tracing contacts..
The USA & Canada are both heading for Italy type conditions!
The government will NEVER tell us that the supply chains are going to fail.. or that the banks will close.. :geek:
The death rate for common influenza is about 0.1%, so even on the lower range estimates of a 1% mortality rate COVID-19 is 10 times more deadly. It's also almost twice as contagious as common flu - it's estimated that infected person infects 2-2.5 people compared to 1.3 for regular flu. https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2...o-flu/12073696Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorca81
:iagree:
Yeah, pretty much that average seems to be the most accurate when you exclude the global average and just look up your local average according to the JH website. It’s also what Dr. Anthony Fauci hinted it could be after ‘all’ the numbers were in. We all do what we have to do and play it day by day.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
The demographics between our countries and Italy are not the same, so I don’t know what you base that on.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexisDVyne
Why social distancing is a good thing:
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Hopefully you'll be alright, Alexis. Please be safe and stay safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexisDVyne
That's unlikely to happen because every government knows it will be toast if it allows essential services to break down. Even an idiot like Trump finally worked out that it would be in his own interest to take this seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexisDVyne
Maintaining the supply of essentials should be feasible, as governments have emergency powers they can use to ensure this. We are going to have an excess of able-bodied people sitting at home, not a shortage. The shortages we've seen recently are due to a surge in panic buying - supply chains just take a while to catch up.
Keeping banks open is straightforward, because the central bank can supply them with unlimited amounts of money. Lehman Brothers only failed in 2008 because they chose to let it fail, and it was not a deposit-taking bank anyway.