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Jamie French River Enza Kaelyn Jaye Chelsea Poe Layla Moore
Stefani Special Oriana Frost Domino Presley
All the above girls have spoken out on abuse from christian,unlucky for him they all posted a lot of the chat most through social media looks like a real tranny chaser does not like to take no for an answer..
oh dear.. and what is he gonna do now?
What the hell does this mean in English?
Sorry for being dumb, confused . com ....
he acts douchey 4 sure. complaining that other companies pay girls too much, lying about penis size and refusing to use condoms, etc...
This is word play click bait what is meant by 'abuse' ? Was he cruel and violent,did he financial abuse them or verbal abuse ? And when did he 'abuse' them ? Of the 8 'big' names l know Christian must have done over 6 scenes with Domino Presley. Was he always abusive or just the last time ?
You can read about it here:
http://deadgirlproductions.com/speakout.html
Sounds like a load of BS
Yeah, a couple of months ago I posted something about this here but my post got delete because of "sensitive subject" or some other bulshit. I saw some girls talking about this on twitter, posted the link here and then: DOWN!
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by NikaTS
Read almost all of that, at worst it's Christian can be a bit of an annoying asshole.
Read all of it. In the past on here I've called Christian a gentleman and a professional; I was wrong if these accounts are accurate. Sadly when it comes to most allegations of misconduct only the two people involved will ever truly know the real truth and that will always be one person's word against another's.Quote:
Originally Posted by timxxx
But if they are true then you're wrong. At best he has been annoying asshole, at worst he's been unprofessional, used his experience within the industry to take serious advantage of other performers both sexually and financially, and as someone with so many years in the industry behind him acts very immature when he doesn't get his way.
I like to try and believe the best in people but either way it's a case of serious misconduct or a group of people trying to character assassinate so whatever the truth is it's a sad state of affairs. I suspect either more talent will come out and join these performers or others will come forward and defend him and state they have always been treated with the up most respect; time will tell I guess.
That's not abuse, that's self admitted creeping/ stalking.Quote:
Originally Posted by NikaTS
Can't hold penis size against him. That's porn in generalQuote:
Originally Posted by ilove2swallow
Jamie's story tells of him going up and grabbing on her without her consent dude.
THis is idiotic.
We're talking about PORN, for God's sake.
It would be the equivalent of a record producer telling an artist, "If you don't let me produce your next album, you won't have a career."
That's a threat, not abuse.
Christian allegedly telling another porn performer they need to do a scene with him to boost their career is NOT abuse.
And who exactly do they think is going to censure Christian for this alleged abuse??
Unless CHristian was out here raping girls, these chicks need to STFU.
From what I read Christian sounds like a tough negotiator. That's not sexual abuse.
Well, I guess technically if you had his big cock in you. That could be considered abuse. :0
Funny. I thought the worst was him forcing Stefani Special to give him road head and then force cumming down her throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by timxxx
As a non-porn industry fan: is “content trade” the porn industry’s casting couch?
Torris: he sounds like a cheapskateQuote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
Scrolled right past the links with their stories. No idea how I missed that on my phone browser.
Interesting news
Not surprised!
You're absolutely stunning!Quote:
Originally Posted by Telvin
I don't understand how people are defending grabbing a girl, making out with her before a shoot without her consent as merely being "unprofessional".
The it's porn argument doesn't hold any water considering some of the accusations. Porn performers are being paid to have sex on camera as their career choice; getting groped in a bathroom or being forced to give head in a car don't belong anywhere near that unless there happens to be a camera (and most likely camera-person) there and it was agreed to as part of the scene beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
It doesn't matter what career someone chooses if they do it and choose not to do it for free nobody should be able to force them to do it in any other way. Nobody has yet to suggest that a film/TV actor or actress who has agreed to be nude in a scene as part of a career choice is being ridiculous if they refuse to strip for a slimeball like Harvey Weinstein so why should any porn performer be placed in a similar position.
Regardless many of these instance of abuse aren't just or only about the physical side of things; instead it's about the abuse of positions of power, industry experience and influence. Having read all the accounts posted so far I stand by what I said before if they are true then he is guilty of serious misconduct just as figures from other industries have been.
Hey there everyone! I just saw Jamie's website and obviously there are 2 sides to every story. I am not going to go into details because they aren't important, but this is the entertainment biz, and its a tough biz. I have been doing this for 15 years now, won multiple awards from AVN TEA XBIZ, performed in over 3500 scenes in gay, straight, and trans, produced content for Naughty America for 3 years, and for the past 5 years I've gone off and started my own little cluster of websites. Its incredibly challenging to be a performer and producer, especially as not only the new kid on the block, but the little guy as well. You have to fight and scratch and claw to get anywhere.
I work incredibly hard every day in order to be successful. I talk to 10-15 prospective models, speak to the models I have booked in the future, as well as talk to the models I've hired in the past. When you produce 250-275 scenes each year, not every model is going to like you after the scenes. When you perform 3500 scenes over 15 years, not every model is going to like you after the scenes. That's just the nature of the business. Additionally, this is a cutthroat industry, models are either working or not working, and when they are not working - its frustrating for them. You will see many frustrated models speaking out against producers who don't want to hire them.
Sometimes you have to read between the lines to see what the real story is. No one ever dislikes the unsuccessful guy, they never have enemies. I am not in this business to be friends, I am in this business to earn a living long term. And I am going to keep working as hard as I can on my websites and keep the noise off to the side. But I wish all of them good luck in the future.
Aren't the details kind of the most important thing in these situations?Quote:
Originally Posted by christianxxx
i'm not going to get into a he said, she said thing. that's pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by IHeartLadyCock
Bottom line is, if you use a threat, no matter the threat, to get sex, you are guilty of RAPE! I have read numerous responses on this board that christian as made to critics and quite frankly I think he is a douch. I for one will take what the 8 ladies have said as truth and what christian says with a grain of salt. He is a narcissist and even his response shows it. I'm this, I am that, I have won this, I have won that so I cannot possible be the bad guy here.
I don't know that much about the bizz you are referring to, but what i know is that being able to respect other people and be polite n kind when talking with them has nothing to do with what kind of job you do. I am also involved in a very competitive-tough industry but i never used intimidate language or actions against my ''enemies'' or anyone that doesn't want to work by my side.
I don't know about if the abuse and stuff are true or just exaggerations just to hurt Christian but the above statement is certainly true in my opinion for everyone regardless of his/her occupation (at least this is how i was taught by parents which i also find it ethically/morally correct). Again it's my opinion so i dunno (dont expect) if you people agree or not btw.
P.S i am not here to judge anyone, just sharing my opinion. Anyone can be what he wants to be.
cheers
being polite and respectful.....ya why not but upto what extent . there is a limit to everything as we say !!Quote:
Originally Posted by ak999999
Of Christian's critics in this thread, how many of you actually know him or have ever met him?
Thought so ... ;)
I mean, that goes both ways though. Do you personally know him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelf
look this is a biz and a message board dedicated to the girls in our industry. They are the stars, not me. So obviously the vast majority of fans are going to side with their favorite girls. I get that.
Whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telvin
Prospective porn actors are often required to have sex OFF CAMERA before they ever perform onscreen.
It's a form of rehearsal. If you're shitty at sex offscreen, why should a porn producer wait until he has everything ready for production to find out an actor sucks at sex in front of a camera???
If I were working in porn, I would think a producer asking me to have sex is kind of like an audition.
No different that a music producer asking me to sing a few bars.
If Christian was not a porn producer, and instead said he knew a guy who knew a guy who could get them in the business, but only if they had sex with him, that would be shady IMO.
However, in this case, Christian is the one producing the porn content.
Whenever he has sex with a prospective model, it's never JUST sex.
It's about seeing what you can do, if you have the necessary passion and sensuality to be a successful porn actress.
It seems to me these girls don't know the business they're trying to work in.
IMO this drama is because Christian appears to shoot a few scenes with a girl them moves on, choosing not to work with them again.
That's business.
Bruh....Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoPervySage
Bruh, I've heard of porn producers asking a chick during an interview to take off her panties and masturbate herself to orgasm.
I've read accounts of male performers being told to take their dick and jerk it until they cum.
This is the porn business, and it's all about performance.
That performance is S-E-X.
The rest of the complaints are just not serious to me.
Arguing over fees and shoots is just like, who cares??
End of the day, if Christian is too abrasive and dismissive of his talent, eventually girls won't want to work with him.
I haven't seen that happen so far, so I tend to believe this is a group of women with an axe to grind.
Did you actually read their stories? I'm not actually saying I believe either side (whatever the truth is it's awful either way; either Christian has crossed some lines he 100% shouldn't have or there are like he says performers that just don't like him in which case it's a group made character assassination attempt - both suck). But the allegations aren't about some sort of rehearsal - he hasn't even suggested that - they are allegations of sexual abuse such as groping people, forcing them to perform oral sex or allegations of manipulation such as undercutting them in pay, arrangements or trying to get them to work with out a condom by badgering them constantly by talking about industry experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
I could understand someone defending Christian and saying "look loads of performers work with him quite happily, these are just a few who didn't get exactly what they wanted and therefore have a grudge" or others attacking him and saying "listen to these terrible things the performers have said sounds like he's a bully" but your audition suggestion is utterly mental.
From what I can gather and Christian can always correct me on this seeing as he has been active in the thread but like other producers he spends the time researching potential scene partners (either by looking at their other content or things such as social media and cam work) and talking to them via DMs or email before he commits financial resources to fly them out and shoot. And I seriously doubt his idea of a rehearsal is groping someone whilst they are doing their make-up or getting a blow-job in his car following a meeting if he is the professional he states he is then things would be done differently than that I'm sure.
Yep, i agree on you... take a look at the messages exchanged between them and use your critical thinking to find out if he exceeded the limit or not... i wont refer to the stories cause those might not so reliable sources. For me when someone start to speaks abruptly and a bit hostile to others without a significant reason then it's lack of respect for the other personQuote:
Originally Posted by delhiguy
lol nice argument... As most people here don't know or met Christian, there as many people that don't know or met the girls. So how can we supposed to have an opinion for either side? I just look in the evidence (not the stories told by the girls), which in this case are the real messages exchange between them. The judges in a court don't know anything about the people getting judged but they just use evidence to make an opinion of who they are. And now you can have an opinion. Thus the point ''you dont really know him'' is a bit childish and invalid in this caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Shelf
great...Quote:
Originally Posted by ak999999
Not surprised the big bald douchebag bully Christian himself is on here defending his actions and obvious abuse of power as "no big deal, blah blah blah etc", but I am surprised by the members of HungAngels rushing to his defence like the toadying, dick drunk sycophants that they are......he can do no wrong in your eyes since you want to get fucked by him and the moronic "but this is porn" card makes it all fine and good as far as you're concerned.
Everyone being so diplomatic and treading on eggshells because the big bald bully is a [very] minor celebrity and a regular poster here ?
Fuck that and fuck him, the guy is clearly an asshole, and IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, merely an aggressive creep and bully who sulks and acts like a 210lb, bald headed baby with a hard-on when he doesnt get his own way, despite his best attempts at coercion and threats.
Can't wait till comrade Stavros and his union of mutual adoration join the discussion proposing a law against Christian model abuse xD