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Bobvela... I am extremel open minded and tolerant as anyone who reads the wide range of postings i make here will attest. you meanwhile post almost exclusively on guns.
I don't think what i posted is "a conspiracy theory" simply an observation that your primary interest in contributing to the hung angels forum is to write about guns. A smattering of early posts about the girls but since then simply gun all the way.
And what do you know about the british subservience. Please if you wish to make that allegation tell me more... the cultural differences/ i know a lot about that I am sure i have spent a lot more time in the US than you have in the UK.
I see you buy into the conspiracy theories about Bundy and Nevada. The guy is a lawbreaker and his comical commandos are a signal of the sickness of US gun culture.
And nowhere in your posts - other than a recourse to your constitution - do i actually see any over riding arguments why is is better for a society to be in possession of millions of weapons in private hands. A society where guns are kept securely out of public reach is surely a saner and healthier one.
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AlexisDVyne
When SHTF you'll know.. There'll be bank runs, war, death and mayhem everywhere with people killing each other over the last can of beans.. If you don't make it out of the cities in 24-48 hours after it starts.. you'll need firearms and luck..
Oh ya.. America the great USA.. Founded on the genocide of native Americans and then followed up with apartheid against the Africans which continued to the 70's.. Home of the Banksters and Black Death Dealers.. (oil)
As for others and their gun death statistics.. More Doctors of Psychiatry kill people with prescription meds than people with guns.. 40% of people that kill others with guns are on these drugs that have been prescribed..
Firearms do not kill people.. people kill people..
When some whacko is about to kill you with his/her gun for what ever you have would you prefer to be without a gun??
If 'firearms do not kill people...people kill people' -then don't give them firearms!!
Plenty of American banks have collapsed since the 19th century without being part of some wider collapse -I think you may find the USA has enough resilience to withstand the apocalypse...
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Stavros
If 'firearms do not kill people...people kill people' -then don't give them firearms!!
Plenty of American banks have collapsed since the 19th century without being part of some wider collapse -I think you may find the USA has enough resilience to withstand the apocalypse...
You don't seem ti grasp what SHTF really is..
If the power is out for 48 hours in 10 cities.. the USA will show us what chaos is.. If the whole grid goes down.. in 3 days the chaos will be beyond the control of the government and all it's troops..
When the trucks don't deliver the food to the grocery stores, the gas, etc.. what do you think will happen? 300 million people depend on grocery stores for all their food..
In rural america where people don't depend on the system it won't be as bad.. in the cities.. total mayhem, death and destruction..
You'll want a firearm.. and it's better if you know how to use it safely..
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Prospero
Bobvela... I am extremel open minded and tolerant as anyone who reads the wide range of postings i make here will attest. you meanwhile post almost exclusively on guns.
I agree strongly with that. Somehow he has only posted 126 times. I don't know how..I feel like I've read at least 130 posts on guns and self-defense. Is it possible to have more posts about guns than total posts?
On a serious note, it is an obsession. It may seem ad hominem to talk about how much attention someone pays to one issue, or how much intellectual effort justifying it. But what about other rights? Free speech? Freedom from cruel and unusual punishment? Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure? Is the only civil liberty he cares about the right to carry a gun into a movie theater?
This focus on guns and gun training amounts to the fetishization of weaponry. It must have some deeply symbolic purpose for people to attach so much importance to something with so little relevance or utility. I'm not just saying it has no relevance because I don't use them. When they talk about the situations in which they will use guns the hypos sound either like science fiction or macho fantasy.
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AlexisDVyne
You don't seem ti grasp what SHTF really is..
If the power is out for 48 hours in 10 cities.. the USA will show us what chaos is.. If the whole grid goes down.. in 3 days the chaos will be beyond the control of the government and all it's troops..
When the trucks don't deliver the food to the grocery stores, the gas, etc.. what do you think will happen? 300 million people depend on grocery stores for all their food..
In rural america where people don't depend on the system it won't be as bad.. in the cities.. total mayhem, death and destruction..
You'll want a firearm.. and it's better if you know how to use it safely..
In the .01% chance or so that this near apocalypse takes place you and 95racer and Bobvela may have a slightly higher chance of scavenging than other people. But in the 99.99% chance that it does not you might find you've wasted a lifetime of thought on whatever base and primitive instinct is driving this all.
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I have to agree with Trish from a logic standpoint, the only real way to reduce the deaths is to reduce the guns, but as I've said before, this is a Political hot potato, and the Democrats only have so much pull, and talking about it fans the fire and brings the young rednecks to the polls this November.
Something NEW maybe that I might add is that I believe, without bothering to check the stats, that the lion's share of these gruesome murders are done by the gruesome bottom ten percent of the country, the poorest. I think this might be where the USA differs from other countries, the people you saw after Katrina, in the richest country in the World, they couldn't afford a bus ticket outta town. I'm not sure any other country has such a high standard of living, in the face of those with nothing. I used to visit these people in my whoring days, these people don't all sit in their living rooms feeling bad, they go out, have tons of friends, do drugs, commit crimes, get AIDs, go to the Emergency Room for free, this bottom rung of society is taking advantage of the fact that their lives are shit, they fuck like bunnies and get high like a mutherfucker. And it's not like they don't want to hang with the HAVES, the HAVES don't want to hang with THEM. When somebody gives them shit, they don't walk away. There's nowhere to walk away to.
So this poor percentage of society costs the country a lot of money on Police, Jails, Hospitals, Social Services, I remember being offered to buy guns real cheap on the street. Lots of stolen stuff, dirt cheap.
So I guess my point is ....uh, ..oh yeah, you can remove the guns, but the misery will still remain, it might be better to raise the minimum wage rather than ban assault rifles. It's one thing to work at McDonalds in High School, it's quite another to raise a family working there.
The Republicans seem to think if you come down hard on these trouble makers, they'll pull their socks up... , the Democrats seem to want to give them food stamps and unemployment insurance. Both sides agree they'd be better off with jobs.
So calling the stupid people WRONG, ....doesn't mean you win. the WRONG people, the RULES are what fucked them, kept them from getting good jobs. I'm guessing registered voters aren't the problem, it's the people who have never voted in their life, they think voting is for chumps and suckers. They don't come on these forums, they drop by "the corner" and catch up more action in ten minutes than you could get on Hung Angels in a month.
If you're looking for ACTION, check out the ghetto, not HARVARD. You can pick up a machine gun for three hundred bucks. It's an Enigma. Two Americas.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/fea...ce-in-america/
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Anyone take a bet that this moron considered himself a "responsible" gun owner?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/0...-his-forehead/
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AlexisDVyne
You don't seem ti grasp what SHTF really is..
If the power is out for 48 hours in 10 cities.. the USA will show us what chaos is.. If the whole grid goes down.. in 3 days the chaos will be beyond the control of the government and all it's troops..
When the trucks don't deliver the food to the grocery stores, the gas, etc.. what do you think will happen? 300 million people depend on grocery stores for all their food..
In rural america where people don't depend on the system it won't be as bad.. in the cities.. total mayhem, death and destruction..
You'll want a firearm.. and it's better if you know how to use it safely..
Yes it is possible that bad things might happen, but the reality is that it is more likely to not happen. This is a sign of living in fear, that tends to restrict 'positive creativity', or a better way to say it, would be basic happiness about life in general. For some reason Albert Einstein, came to mind. I think of him has an older man constantly thinking about mathematical views of the universe that might help to expand man's views of it. For him there was implied a view of a positive future. Yes there a people who have a greater incidence of violence, such as trans people. but there a many ways to protect yourself with out a gun. sometimes owning a gun will introduce lethal alternatives to a non-lethal situation. I was robbed once. He got the jump on me. It didn't look like a real gun, it could have been a starter pistol. If I had a gun, it would have introduced a certain lethal struggle. I continued walking to the store at night, as it brought me healthy exercise, and beer. I was more aware of my surroundings, but not living with a big fears, still not armed with guns. Instead of thinking about human chaos, what about creating or making something that would be of service to people, and perhaps make you some cash? It is written; "As you give, so shall you receive."
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Here is a good rallying song for the gun folk...
Cows With Guns - YouTube
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yodajazz
Yes it is possible that bad things might happen, but the reality is that it is more likely to not happen. This is a sign of living in fear, that tends to restrict 'positive creativity', or a better way to say it, would be basic happiness about life in general. For some reason Albert Einstein, came to mind. I think of him has an older man constantly thinking about mathematical views of the universe that might help to expand man's views of it. For him there was implied a view of a positive future. Yes there a people who have a greater incidence of violence, such as trans people. but there a many ways to protect yourself with out a gun. sometimes owning a gun will introduce lethal alternatives to a non-lethal situation. I was robbed once. He got the jump on me. It didn't look like a real gun, it could have been a starter pistol. If I had a gun, it would have introduced a certain lethal struggle. I continued walking to the store at night, as it brought me healthy exercise, and beer. I was more aware of my surroundings, but not living with a big fears, still not armed with guns. Instead of thinking about human chaos, what about creating or making something that would be of service to people, and perhaps make you some cash? It is written; "As you give, so shall you receive."
Well that's all good and true..
But I'm happy I know how to use firearms safely.. and if I need to..
Personally I'd never want to shoot anything other than a non living target..
My point is with all the nutbars that have stockpiles of guns and amo it might be pertinent to know your way around firearms in the event that you need to..
In many countries they have required basic military training.. everyone in those countries knows how to use a gun.. in Israel it's way more than basic training.. Obama is working on making it mandatory in the USA..
If it comes down to kill or be killed what will you do?
