Thought for the Day

Trump being "racist" to that reporter.
Well, what the f do people expect?
He's been POTUS for a ew years. could well be POTUS until his maximum two terms extends (unless he gets the GOPs in Congress to amend the Constitution).
He's a boorish ass.
How the media always go irate over every "negative" thing he says. Get over it. he won't change!!!
What he said was wrong, don't get me wrong. She wasn't rude to him, and he made a borderline racist insinuation.

But then he's like an uncle with no filter, who embarrasses people at family functions. just get over it and move on.
And considering the Democrats are in a shit position, the media has until 2025 to get used to it...
Just pray he doesn't change the Constitution to alter the two-term amendment.

No. We refuse to normalize this ignorant asshole's bigoted behavors. Overlooking your uncle's boorish behavior at a holiday diner is one thing. To overlook the President's racism is to justify it in the eyes of others.

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Originally Posted by trish

To overlook the President's racism is to justify it in the eyes of others.

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Especially when it is reflected in his policies; eg immigration policy and winding back efforts to combat violent white supremacists or police shooting of blacks. Some people have even argued that it partly explains his unwillingness to take the coronavirus seriously. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...howing/611389/

https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1260450147256975363?s=20

no surprises

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Originally Posted by trish

No. We refuse to normalize this ignorant asshole's bigoted behavors. Overlooking your uncle's boorish behavior at a holiday diner is one thing. To overlook the President's racism is to justify it in the eyes of others.

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I never really understood when people say the media is taking the bait. They can either ignore Trump insulting an Asian woman based on her heritage or they can treat it as an outrage. As you say, to ignore it is to treat it as a new normal, which is not what we should aspire to. Of course, there are all sorts of illusions people have about racial justice that are often intended to make themselves feel better.

Do people respond the same way to black people dying as they do to white people being shot or dying of a disease? The answer is no. This sort of racism, unconscious though it sometimes is, has been the norm for society since there's been an America and persists without Trump reigniting more obvious forms of it. There was an article about a black woman in her early thirties who had covid-19 who was told by EMTs that she couldn't breathe because she was having a panic attack. When they asked her what her goals were in order to take her mind off of her "panic attack" she said, "not to die." She was not taken to the hospital and died a day or two later.

There are videos being circulated in right wing circles of Ahmaud Barbery walking into a construction site. It looked entirely harmless and of course was irrelevant because he was murdered, but it's the kind of mind trick Republicans want to play in order to treat his death as less than tragic. He wasn't just a young man jogging who was accosted by crazed racists who proceeded to execute him. To them, he must have been up to no good and so he should be presented as dangerous after he's dead.

We are going to have to unwind the damage Trump has done to the public discourse but as a country we're also going to have to deal with the racism that's there and has always been there. Anyway, the Atlantic article says it better than I can. But I just wanted to chime in that I definitely think part of the callousness we're seeing in the Republican response to Covid-19 reflects their dehumanization of minorities who have been disproportionately affected.

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Originally Posted by holzz

Trump being "racist" to that reporter.
Well, what the f do people expect?
He's been POTUS for a ew years. could well be POTUS until his maximum two terms extends (unless he gets the GOPs in Congress to amend the Constitution).
He's a boorish ass.
How the media always go irate over every "negative" thing he says. Get over it. he won't change!!!
What he said was wrong, don't get me wrong. She wasn't rude to him, and he made a borderline racist insinuation.

But then he's like an uncle with no filter, who embarrasses people at family functions. just get over it and move on.
And considering the Democrats are in a shit position, the media has until 2025 to get used to it...
Just pray he doesn't change the Constitution to alter the two-term amendment.

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Are you just hoping we'll all ignore your usually ignorant trolling behaviour rather than calling it out as well?...:shrug

people know what kind of person he is. if he wins the election, then this tactic of shaming him isn't working.

https://thenextweb.com/gaming/2020/0...download-play/

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Originally Posted by holzz

people know what kind of person he is. if he wins the election, then this tactic of shaming him isn't working.

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Reporters write articles about what is newsworthy regardless of whether it achieves some political objective. Reporters are not election strategists. What is newsworthy? How prominent is the person involved? How significant is what they said or did? Is it a departure from the norm?

Even three and a half years after Trump was elected, it's newsworthy that a U.S. President is openly denigrating an ethnic minority at a press conference. Was this something Obama did? Bush? Clinton? Bush Sr? Reagan? Carter? Ford? Even Nixon would only say these sorts of things in private, which is not much better but harder to report and less shameless.

There's also the fact that if this became normal in the U.S. it would be considered abnormal everywhere else, given that expressions of bigotry are stigmatized in most countries.

As far as Trump winning elections, however slight his margin of victory, it does point to a problem with political tribalism. His supporters like him despite the fact that he has no integrity, lies constantly, and behaves like a child. He is provably corrupt and incompetent and it matters more to them that he dislikes people they also dislike. They've given up on the idea that a society doesn't have to be a zero sum game and that a President can enact policies that benefit everyone. He is a referendum on the very idea of having a society.

And the point of these articles is the same narrative as itg was when he was running for office. as in "we can't allow this bigot and uncouth man to be POTUS!!" well he IS POTUS.and he may well be for some time. The "calling him out" angle is tired, and ineffectual, as it doesn't stop his base from voting for him. It won't stop foreign countries or businesses dealing with him or the USA, since it's still the superpower.
They need a new angle if they really want to dissuade him or their supporters. The European attitude - which I share incidentally - is that he's a cunt but then we have no choice but to deal with him.
Bush Jr. for me was worse, since he invaded a country with to date no cause. Trump has done nothing on that scale - well yet.