Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
The police said Zimmerman's continued "assistance" was not needed. So you admit it was "stupid and dangerous" (your words) for Zimmerman to continue his pursuit. Why? Because the consequence may be "bad." Indeed the consequences were bad. To cause a death by willful and needless pursuit of a dangerous activity IS illegal. It's called negligence and the appropriate charge is manslaughter.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
THUMBS UP TO YOU TRISH!!!
Only thing I disagree here is MANSLAUGHTER, no Zimmerman should be charged with 1st degree murder, he had intent on hurting someone, because the statement he made "THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY" he was hell bent on catching someone, and he made sure to hell to carry a gun which in his watchman rules said not to do. InHouston tries to play semantics with Rule and Law, well they made the rule so their wouldn't be chaos which Zimmerman has made a chaotic situation worse if he would of listened to the dispatcher.
Hey if your mother tells you not to sell drugs or you will get killed or go to jail, that's her rule her law, but you have the will to disobey, yet there are consequences if you break her rules, so if you go to jail can't blame that on the mother. Same thing here if it was a rule he should of listened to the dispatcher, what the hell are they there for then? People are trying to make a dam excuse for Zimmerman he killed a teen in cold blood. There' s no logic to it, other than he should of stayed in the car and let the police handle that, Zimmerman is not the LAW nor is he able to carry out LAW, as InHouston puts it. Zimmerman definitely is not a professional either. He should do time and the fact is he kill someone and he knew he was going to fire that gun at some point or time.
Man slaughter falls under this, lets say Zimmerman chased Trayvon and Trayvon got hit by a car, Zimmerman didn't actually kill Trayvon but by him chasing Trayvon caused Trayvon's death, that's manslaughter, here it's clear Zimmerman had a gun and shot and killed Trayvon himself. Now the reason it's not 1st degree murder is because they are saying they can't prove it was intentional. So 2nd murder had to come about not manslaughter.
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trish
The police said Zimmerman's continued "assistance" was not needed. So you admit it was "stupid and dangerous" (your words) for Zimmerman to continue his pursuit. Why? Because the consequence may be "bad." Indeed the consequences were bad. To cause a death by willful and needless pursuit of a dangerous activity IS illegal. It's called negligence and the appropriate charge is manslaughter.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
If Zimmerman didn't have his gun, he NEVER would have chased after Trayvon.
IMO having his firearm with him shows intent on Zimmerman's part.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
True enough: in most other homicide cases bringing your gun to the crime scene is certainly evidence of intent. That along with Zimmerman's statement, "They always get away," there may be proof of intent.
Needless and dangerous pursuit leading to death should be enough to establish reckless manslaughter at the very least. Bringing the weapon to the scene, volunteering "They always get away" and then killing an unarmed seventeen year old may be sufficient to establish intent. But who can predict what a Florida jury will say? I'm just happy it's going to trial. It would make my day if the policemen who initially let Zimmerman walk loose their jobs and pension for their slipshod handling of the case.
exhibit #1 and one of zimmermans 1st group of lies that he did not know the DA had ev
exhibit #1 and one of zimmermans 1st group of lies that he did not know the DA had evidence for.
1.) zimmerman " I scream for help"
2.) there was no words exchanged or preallocation
3.)zimmerman did not know that the 911 calls made would capture the screams for help and 2 experts from the news would analyze the contents and conclude it it not zimmerman screaming for help. so the only other reasonable explanation is it is TRAVON MARTIN screaming for help and zimmerman lied and reversed the story of who was calling for help to fend off an aggressor
stupid criminals!
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
You guys kill me with your scenarios. Seriously murder one?? He didn't even know martin so he could never had premeditated it. Shit even murder 2 is a stretch, that is why they appointed a *special prosecutor*. If it was such a slam dunk why didn't the grand jury get involved?
I'm still waiting for the blank panthers to get arrested for *conspiracy to commit aggravated murder*
oh wait, that will never happen now will it
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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giovanni_hotel
If George didn't have his gun, he NEVER would have chased after Martin.
IMO having his firearm with him shows intent on George's part.
^^^^^^I fixed your text for you
If I carry does that mean i'm a murderer looking for a victim???
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giovanni_hotel
justice for all
giovanni-
Where do you stand on the Redskins team name? I admit guilt on this one.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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buds
If I carry does that mean i'm a murderer looking for a victim???
Gun permits are meant for defense. They're not meant to be a license to chase guys down the street that you think may be guilty of something ,and they're not a badge. They must teach that at the mandatory school for applying for the permit.
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buds
If I carry does that mean i'm a murderer looking for a victim???
Coming from a country which bans the carrying of firearms, the answer has to be, potentially, yes.
If you're carrying it, it implies that you're prepared to use it, and circumstances could therefore all too arise in which your actions can be construed as murder.
