Goodbye

Another complication is that hrt itself can lead to serious mood swings, especially when people start and stop at random intervals or self-medicate, so just imagine what can happen to someone on hrt who is already somewhere in the depression/anxiety etc. spectrum.

Couple this with the fact that there has been no clinical research done in this area (large double-blind studies), which means that doctors who work with these patients are, at best, making judgement calls...yes, there are some physicians who are more experienced but all this really amounts to is anecdotal information, which means that no one understands the potential risks of mixing androgens with say, prozac or lexapro.

Miranda, I don't know you. But you seem nice. So I wish you well with whatever you do. Don't give up hope, you're not alone, a lot of people struggle with issues like depression.

this is Miranda News of the day:
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=84155

I promise I will not take anything seriously next time:(

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this is Miranda News of the day:
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=84155

I promise I will not take anything seriously next time:(

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I guess this went over my head, but what's your point?

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I guess this went over my head, but what's your point?

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I think the implication is that any attempt on my part to be positive and flirty and fun is evidence that my mental health struggles are not particularly serious.

If that's what she meant, that's downright malicious.

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If that's what she meant, that's downright malicious.

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I could be reading it entirely wrong but that was my take away.

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I could be reading it entirely wrong but that was my take away.

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That was my take when I read it. Then I thought maybe there was something cryptic that I wasn't getting.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. As I'm sure you know, the fact that you are smiling now has no bearing on what you've been through or whether you're depressed.

Like everybody else I'm happy to see you smiling after a tumultuous last week. :)

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this is Miranda News of the day:
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=84155

I promise I will not take anything seriously next time:(

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You cannot possibly be so obtuse as to miss the point of Miranda's other post - can you?

Miranda, please don't pay attention to people who have no understanding of anything.
Nice to see that smile back anyway.

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I think the implication is that any attempt on my part to be positive and flirty and fun is evidence that my mental health struggles are not particularly serious.

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it's actually partly right.

Some of us, including me, think that you are still in the bed, struggling to be alive.

glad you are already flirty and fun.


Now, finally, i'm done.

Gosh...of course, i'm relieved, i thought you were dying.

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Miranda, please don't pay attention to people who have no understanding of anything.
Nice to see that smile back anyway.

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You are partly right too.

I told you, i know nothing about this issue.

You guys should go to third world country, and see how these people struggle everyday, but nonetheless still can make it through their lives.

why and how?

determination and courage.

You are partly right too ;)
I have been to third world countries and certainly have no less sympathy for those struggling over there than I have for Miranda.
All I am saying is that determination and courage alone will not resolve a severe mental illness such as severe clinical depression. IMHO.

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You are partly right too ;)
I have been to third world countries and certainly have no less sympathy for those struggling over there than I have for Miranda.
All I am saying is that determination and courage alone will not resolve a severe mental illness such as severe clinical depression. IMHO.

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with determination and courage (power of mind), as we already discussed, we will be able to do the next right steps, taking some actions that are necessary. e.g: medications, exercises, counseling etc.

Anyway, i'm glad she is ok.

I was worried about her safety and life before, and now we know that she is ok.

cheers

Since I know nothing about what happened other than reading this thread, I can only speak from experience in my profession. But perhaps this was a severe case of burnout? I remember feeling similar to Miranda's initial post during the aftermath of a rather bitter point in my life (where something beyond my control went very wrong, and I didn't do a good job doing damage control).

I've been through servere depression, it's the hardest thing to motivate yourself to get help when you have no faith in anything, or anyone, especially yourself and treatment personnel, who often fall short of their purpose, after all they are just people, plus the mind is still a relative mystery as it's so complex.

One doctor even asked me if I injected cannabis/marijuana when I told him I smoke it. (I've stopped now, and feel better for stopping,that really wasn't helping my anxiety.) This was a doctor, he didn't know the first thing about anything by the sound of it, why would I think he can help me? Luckily I switched doctors and my current one is brilliant.

Your mind only shows you the negatives of life when you're depressed, and living in that 24 7 is torture. I got out of my servere depression with the help of my new doctor and antidepressants, I still have a cynical outlook on life, which I don't think is misplaced, but I don't dwell on that now, and just do what I can to look at the beauty in life, I avoid negative people and try and be positive about my life. Music helps me a great deal too, and good friends.

Plus in 60 years I should be dead so I might as well smell the flowers before then :)

Best of luck Miranda! xx I hope you find your way to feeling as good on the inside as you look on the outside!

It's nice to see Miranda again with a smile. :-D

I have to say, that Miranda did one important right move, that she wrote this letter to express her depression and need of help. Of course it still depend on those who read it, that they understand it correctly and do proper moves. Specially for those, who know person and live near, to visit and give needed support and help.

It's true, that experiences always come after you need them, but this case could give a lot of experiences for those who want to learn. This time was Miranda, next time could be anybody. We have to respect each other, specially, when we disagree.

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I've been through servere depression, it's the hardest thing to motivate yourself to get help when you have no faith in anything, or anyone, especially yourself and treatment personnel, who often fall short of their purpose, after all they are just people, plus the mind is still a relative mystery as it's so complex.

One doctor even asked me if I injected cannabis/marijuana when I told him I smoke it. (I've stopped now, and feel better for stopping,that really wasn't helping my anxiety.) This was a doctor, he didn't know the first thing about anything by the sound of it, why would I think he can help me? Luckily I switched doctors and my current one is brilliant.

Your mind only shows you the negatives of life when you're depressed, and living in that 24 7 is torture. I got out of my servere depression with the help of my new doctor and antidepressants, I still have a cynical outlook on life, which I don't think is misplaced, but I don't dwell on that now, and just do what I can to look at the beauty in life, I avoid negative people and try and be positive about my life. Music helps me a great deal too, and good friends.

Plus in 60 years I should be dead so I might as well smell the flowers before then :)

Best of luck Miranda! xx I hope you find your way to feeling as good on the inside as you look on the outside!

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very honest, thanks for sharing :)
I black highlighted your challenge. You understand your challenge of having chronic depression and do your best to conquer it. Bravo!

I red highlighted your sentence about avoiding negative people and listening to music. Yes, that's exactly what I do too.

Doing something good is great for our mind.

Life is not easy. It's unfair...but hey..at least is interesting.
Let's move on. We only live once anyway. Live and let live :)

cheers

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I could be reading it entirely wrong but that was my take away.

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good sign. You realized that you might be wrong.

I blamed myself. I was worried about you, a little too much for no reason.

So when i saw your pics...i said: gosh...silly me, i thought you even had a hard time to get out of bed. And look at you now.

As I already mentioned, misunderstanding happens from time to time.

It's ok and normal.

cheers

Tia may have been misunderstood in her post, but if you are depressed or need moral support, she is a good friend to have. I speak from personal experience.

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very honest, thanks for sharing :)
I black highlighted your challenge. You understand your challenge of having chronic depression and do your best to conquer it. Bravo!

I red highlighted your sentence about avoiding negative people and listening to music. Yes, that's exactly what I do too.

Doing something good is great for our mind.

Life is not easy. It's unfair...but hey..at least is interesting.
Let's move on. We only live once anyway. Live and let live :)

cheers

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Thanks Asian Phoenixx :D They also say there are 2 main ways to help against depression, one is sports, and another is art.

I guess it depends if you are more of a deep thinker or creative type, or a physical type.

I think exercise is great either way as it boosts endorphins which make you feel good, it also helps you get a better self image too and have more energy. But joining a team can also be a good break out from feeling isolated or alone.

Poker was a good activity for me. I used to play a lot of sports but am not as fit as I used to be back then. But poker gave me the competitive outlet, as well as the social good times with friends once a week. I can't just go out drinking, I need something to focus on, I get bored otherwise, and am not a dancer lol so that doesn't help either.

Music's always there though, I love my music, and there's always new stuff to discover. It's my true love.

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Tia may have been misunderstood in her post, but if you are depressed or need moral support, she is a good friend to have. I speak from personal experience.

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if you are depressed or need moral support, she is a good friend to have.....and if I may add: as long as you are willing to listen, (try to be) positive, and not being judgmental, negative or cynical.

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Thanks Asian Phoenixx :D They also say there are 2 main ways to help against depression, one is sports, and another is art.

I guess it depends if you are more of a deep thinker or creative type, or a physical type.

I think exercise is great either way as it boosts endorphins which make you feel good, it also helps you get a better self image too and have more energy. But joining a team can also be a good break out from feeling isolated or alone.

Poker was a good activity for me. I used to play a lot of sports but am not as fit as I used to be back then. But poker gave me the competitive outlet, as well as the social good times with friends once a week. I can't just go out drinking, I need something to focus on, I get bored otherwise, and am not a dancer lol so that doesn't help either.

Music's always there though, I love my music, and there's always new stuff to discover. It's my true love.

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thanks for the confirmation my friend.

Odelay and Broncofan have already given a valuable input with regards to this too, and now, you are the third person who confirms it.

there are 3 points that have been mentioned that are actually very important:
1.Power of mind
2.Finding a good mental health practitioner (doctor)
3.Recommendation of medicine.


then You, Broncofan, and Odelay have again confirmed that finding or doing something that we like (hobby) definitely help.
Odelay and Broncofan have mentioned to keep physically active is important, and for you as well (exercise, poker and music)

For me personally: exercise, sex and traveling

All of us agree, exercise is not only important for the body, but also for the mind.

Men sana in corpore sano (latin)
meaning: In a good, healthy body, there is a good, healthy mind

cheers

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I'm not capable of doing adult work -- or much of anything -- anymore. I've been taking down my online presence and just wanted to leave a final note to the effect of "don't expect to see or hear from me further." I've just hit the logical conclusion of my life's trajectory and am consequently done with everything. I'm glad some of you enjoyed my content and/or me, and I'm sorry I can't provide more of both. Goodbye.

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See the damage you fucking chasers cause?? you all deserve no less than death. ugh ... the shit i read here turns my stomach. and the whores here who encourage your disrespect and fetishization deserve to met the same end.

Your not going to get anything accomplished by bashing everybody married girl your just going to raise more conflicts

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See the damage you fucking chasers cause?? you all deserve no less than death. ugh ... the shit i read here turns my stomach. and the whores here who encourage your disrespect and fetishization deserve to met the same end.

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You're a real fucking humanitarian, aintcha! :dead-1:

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if you are depressed or need moral support, she is a good friend to have.....and if I may add: as long as you are willing to listen, (try to be) positive, and not being judgmental, negative or cynical.

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how much does it cost for the human hobbits to listen to you?

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See the damage you fucking chasers cause?? you all deserve no less than death. ugh ... the shit i read here turns my stomach. and the whores here who encourage your disrespect and fetishization deserve to met the same end.

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lol. what's cooking marriedgrl_chasrstayaway?

good. chasers are enemies to the girls.... a poison. a lot of girls have super low self-esteem and think a place like this validates them. i dont care about causing conflicts with chasers... chasers aka "admirers" are mortal enemies of trans girls. a lot of women will be afraid to speak out or even attack me... but i understand where the attacks come from. they depend on their chaser masters for their livelyhood so of course they have fear and anxiety about this transphobic and transmisogynistic structure being dismantled. i am the angel of death when it comes to chasers and will not put down my sword until each and every grl is safe.

So how is responding on a forum going to accomplish that when 75% of them don't even know this site exists

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good. chasers are enemies to the girls.... a poison. a lot of girls have super low self-esteem and think a place like this validates them. i dont care about causing conflicts with chasers... chasers aka "admirers" are mortal enemies of trans girls. a lot of women will be afraid to speak out or even attack me... but i understand where the attacks come from. they depend on their chaser masters for their livelyhood so of course they have fear and anxiety about this transphobic and transmisogynistic structure being dismantled. i am the angel of death when it comes to chasers and will not put down my sword until each and every grl is safe.

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no doubt no doubt. chasers are like parasites, eating away at the trannies.

so, what are you up to today? anything good on tv?

OK, someone accepted the trials of life. I've seen people do this at 20, 30 and some just wait till they are 60. Ok, you've said goodbye, now go do what you really want to do. But the real big secret to life is "You don't tell no one". Otherwise its all a challenge in your own head.

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I am the angel of death...

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Nah, you're more of an internet troll.

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i am the angel of death ....

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Fly towards the ban light butterfly, fly!

Banned!

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Fly towards the ban light butterfly, fly!

Banned!

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Well Done, Steven!!!:pumped:

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will not put down my sword until each and every grl is safe.

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OR when you're banned from the private forum you're posting on for your tedious, hypocritical posts. Whichever comes first right?

lol...probably should have held off on the ban for just a teensy weensy bit longer...
...she was providing some really funny stuff there...I mean "angel of death...and swords" and all that...reminds me of the movie "Hospital" - "I am a fool for christ and the parakleet of Kaborca !!"...or something like that.

:D :D :D :D

lol...I wonder if she spewed all that nonsense out loud, while she applied mascara to the good customers at the Macy's cosmetics counter.

Back to the OP, I saw a post by her on another site:

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She's been on a roll in many ways of late. Besides for completing school she has passed a ton of qualification tests.

I only know her on the web but I see a huge positive change. I think she has addressed a lot of things and accomplished a lot. Those reading here should take heart that things can get better. If you are feeling really down please seek professional help, all of our journeys have rough stretches.

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She's been on a roll in many ways of late. Besides for completing school she has passed a ton of qualification tests.

I only know her on the web but I see a huge positive change. I think she has addressed a lot of things and accomplished a lot.

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Thank you, Rusty. :)