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Kelly reading about what u was going throgh,i have even more respect ....some girls doesnt even know how is to fight to become someone in ur life and im not talking about Evon now,but are lots of girls out there who judge girls ,who actualy had a rough life and to become someone in their life was a long journey ,to not say a huge battle...all my respect for u Kelly xQuote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
I honestly don't know any Ts women like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Most of my ts friends are happy and most are also in long term relationships.
One of them got married in 2010. (been together 10 years, previously)
Wrong choice of words, but I meant irritated... Sorry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler___Durden
This is for people who love judgeng others so easy.and is better to keep in mind.
Before you Judge my Life, my Past or my Character...Walk in My Shoes!!!Walk the Path I have Travelled,Live my Sorrow, my Doubts, my Fear, my Pain ... and my Laughter!Remember, "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!"Everyone has Their Own Story!When you've Lived My Life, Then and Only Then,You Can Judge Me!!!
Amen!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsadriana
Just sooo much drama. 'Chaser' to me is still a generic slur since the meaning varies so much from one TG to another, yet they ALL know what it means.
Labels are fucking CONFUSING. So to all the lovely ladies I leave you with....
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...powerful..jpeg
Your a pretty girl Kelly, the hard work paid off, but stay away from me, your always pounding guys in films lol.
If you don't escort, does that mean you don't expect money? Or you do expect money but you don't call it "escorting?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
Fetish: definitions 1c and 3. From Merriam-Webster online.
Definition of FETISH
1
a : an object (as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence b : an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion : prepossession c : an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression
2
: a rite or cult of fetish worshipers
3
: fixation
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Don't worry. My fetish doesn't extend to anyone as nasty as you.
You're just into cock, and I don't care about keeping mine. So it's mutual. Guys like you are meaningless to women with vaginas. And I don't "worry" about closet cases who regard human beings as fetishes, Admiral Poop Breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Admiral
Ah. So you really aren't white.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
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Originally Posted by Admiral
"an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression"
hmmm....so are you telling me that when guys are so cock (whats her size,does she come,im not interested in trannies who've had srs or dont use their cocks) fixated its actually a fetish?..no wayyyyyy
You hoes are crazy lol at the end of the day you all suck dick for money the end :)
Most Tgirls do not like guys that are into tgirls, as stated.
To me it is looking a gift horse in the mouth.
However maybe this is just a sign the guy is billable.
My observations have led me to believe most tgirls only want straight guys with massive cocks that are not attracted to shemales in the least.
Many seem to think all guys that like tgirls are gay as can be.
:)
This is very interesting.. I have been dubbed a chaser in the past and it cracks me up.. I love beautiful women period, its just that simple. I do not get caught up in labels and all of that shit. Why does she have to be a GG or TG why can she not just be G. Its not about whats down there it about what inside her heart, mind and soul. Yes if things become intimate with any woman then your to please her in every way possible just as she is to do the same with you. If I have to be concerned about being a chaser a having a fetish because I want to please every inch of your body from head to toe then what the fuck is the point of developing something special with any G.
Now i have paid for time with both a GG and TG or a G in my case. Sometimes being out of town I wanted to be with a woman in that way and instead of playing the bar all night I skipped right to it.. other times I enjoyed the hunt, the game and so did she whether it was at a TG freindly spot, a reg spot or a who gives a fuck cuz I dont spot.
Show me the smile, let them eyes sparkle.. have a scent that makes me stop and seek you out. Be smart, confident and sexy and its on.. TG GG or better yet a G.. Dont label me cuz I will never label you
Kelly your one cool G
Bizarre yet so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by cragorama
Which is why to me trying to get inside most TG's heads is like swimming in quicksand.
You may think you're making progress, but eventually if you don't climb out of that hole, you will drown.:salad
Well that's why ts make assumption of some men as chasers, because men make these ignorant assumptions as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by cragorama
Not true at all.
I like rocker types, who wear skinny jeans and leather jackets.... So please throw that dumb assumption out the window.
It has nothing to with dicks. It has to do with certain guys having nothing but sex on their brains. And guys with cocks on their brain often sleep with men on the DL. Kelly even just said that her BF is bi. Do you just assume that all women want to date men who occasionally want to sleep with men? Maybe she's ok with it, but most women aren't. I'm not. And most transsexual women aren't. Maybe that mentality works out in your favor. I don't know if you're bi. But tranny chasers are often sleeping with men, behind even their TS GF's backs. But guys aren't going admit that here. They're just going to bitch about what horrible people transsexuals are for charging them for accommodating them sexually.Quote:
Originally Posted by cragorama
Anyway, GG escorts, strippers, porn stars etc don't mix business with pleasure, and neither do we if we're smart. People who meet Arianna have the chance to get to know ME. But if you came across me as "Nicole Dupre", you're either looking at porn or for escorts. And at that point, traditional dating isn't up for discussion. You're just another dude looking for a quick, cheap thrill. You're not dating or relationship material.
Amber: That was in response to this from Nicole (page 17ish):Quote:
Originally Posted by amberskyi
Stop kidding yourself. Having sex with someone is not a fetish; not by definition. It's sex. Get over it. And if you consider yourself to be "gay", I won't argue with you. Good luck being a closet fag. But sex is sex. Bestiality is not a fetish. Necrophilia is not a fetish. And homosexuality is not a fetish. You just like cock. In fact, I would dare say that you must love it if you actually spend time on a forum like this.
This is so unneccessary and tragic. There really has been an abject failure of the public health services to meet your needs and you could use some communitty activism. Some of you are clearly smart enough/. those numbers speak to an untold and avoidable legacy of human suffering. Complacency kills and silence in the face of injustice is aquisenceQuote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
I just recently got out of a relationship with a TS that lasted almost 4 years. I'll try not to repeat anything that hasn't already been said, but then again this post has 33 pages, and I got tired of reading the same things over and over. Many of you on this board know me, and know my EX as well. I will say this first off (and many of you will disagree). She is a wonderful woman and I will always love her, BUT over the time we'd spent together we had both changed, and made good and bad decisions.
We she and I had first met on (don't laugh) MYSPACE, we talked for a few months even before meeting face to face, and upon our first date we had a great time. At the end of the night she went to kiss me, and I had told her I don't kiss on the first date. Knowing in full that she wanted more than just a kiss, but out of respect for her I did not. The reason I didn't is that I wanted to show her that I am different than a majority of the men in the TS scene. After that night we had started to spend a lot of time together, and we didn't have sex until after we were together for over a month. She at the beginning of the relationship was not an escort. She had a full time well paying job (not in the industry). I had met her family, which was NOT easy for either of us at the beginning, but over time they saw that I had respect for her & treated her as the woman she is 100% of the time. She had also met my family as well. We had gone on vacations together, and when we were together everybody saw us as a happy couple in public and private. I did not nor will I ever hide the fact that I date transsexuals.
Well after time, and good and bad decisions on both of our parts we decided to call it quits.
It all broke down basically to this - She had a man that loved and respected her NOT for what is in between her legs, but for who she is as a woman. All she saw in me was a guy that prefers TS's opposed genetic women (yes I like both). So she labelled me a "tranny chaser", and she decided to listen to what other girls thought about "chasers", and that caused problems. For the later part of our relationship she preferred to go out to gay clubs or straight clubs, but didn't want me to go with her. So I'd go and hang out with my friends, and she decided to call me and my friends "Tranny Chasers" even though we did not go home with girls after the club, or really try to. We basically sit around have a couple drinks and talk about how delusional 85% of the TS's are....lol
No matter what we men do, no matter how much we try. Regardless if we support the community or not. If we like TS's we will all ways have the burden of being labelled as a chaser, a pervert, a client, etc....
My advice to the girls: DROP THE DRAMA, if the guy is a client keep it that way, if he's a dick or starts talking about sex right away then get rid of him unless he is a client. If he is generally interested in you then use your brain (AKA don't judge him or label him) and give it a shot. Don't have delusions of grandeur like the movies portray. Go on few dates with him, and treat them as real dates NOT PAY DATES. You may actually have fun, and meet a good guy.
My advice to the guys: The girls are NOT pieces of meat, or some toy for you play with and then discard at will. If she is an escort pay for it, don't expect a freebie. You don't work for free why should they? They are women and should be treated as such. Would you go up to a genetic girl at a club and start fondling them, and pawing all over them...No.
My advice to everybody: Just remember the Golden Rule - Do onto others as you would have them do on to you. We all have feelings, and don't like them to be hurt. Don't prejudge a person solely on what other people say, or where the go or who their friends are. We all have friends that are; Cool, better looking, uglier, idiots, etc...Be up front with your intentions, and if it's meant to happen it will, if it's not don't cause drama or label the person just because it didn't work out.
Exactly! I think For me I deserve a man who would put in 100 percent emotional, sexual, mental, support on me.
Like I said the thread came from a girl who's okay with being in relationships with gay men, or bi men. I really don't want that for me, not that i hate them Because I rally to support the GLBT community with love.
I don't want to ever feel like i am not enough for someone just because I can't fulfill their sexual fetish, or whatever.
This thread has done nothing but made everything in a bad light for ts women.
It's horrible to to throw your community down to make yourself feel better, when in reality it just takes a little understanding to know why we feel this way. There is a lot of emotional, physical, and mental negativity behind this and it is a defense for ts women to not get hurt, or abused or taken advantage of. Regardless of our occupation we are still human and we still hurt like anyone else, and chasers don't take that in consideration when they lie, cheat, abuse, take advantage, threaten, harass, and do us wrong.
But in no way do we think all men into ts are chasers, but we are careful. Just prove yourself right to a ts woman and she'll appreciate that.
Nicole s right on with the chaser definition...
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Originally Posted by yogi2002
i agree with you 100%
it isn't right to develop the mentality of all men into ts as gay, perverts, or chaser... Not true.
But there are chasers so lets not forget the guys that we really should distance our selves...
And you said what I said already but i wasn't heard.
I said if a guy just wants sex and it doesn't benefit me in any way would rather charge to gain something as oppose to leaving feeling empty and used... That's what i said until Kelly rudely twisted my words...
I really like you actually...
This is exactly what I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by yogi2002
Kelly just made it seem like all ts women view basically any guy to be chasers... that didn't sit right with me because ts know better. I felt a sabotage with her portrayal of ts image, and i felt if the purpose is to cause awareness, this was not the right thing to do. Instead I feel the image would be definitely misconstrued and it's an attacks to our community by her throwing us under the bus for her personal fame.
She does not explain our feeling behind not liking chasers
Or the fact of the real real world about what chasers do to us negatively, with or emotional, mental, and physical being.
Or the experiences we go trough and the confusion between ts lovers and chaser.
She was vague, fake, and careless...
Lmao....
Being bi automatically means a man cheats..oh lord girls...
I laugh so hard...
You guys don't want to be judged yet you point your finger and look down your nose at everyone and everything
Good Grief....
My husband is bi as am I.. we do threesomes together with men/women/ts when we pick them together and they have to play with both of us...
Everything is honest and done in front of each other...
Gay men aren't into transsexuals..they don't like boobs...much less all the feminine wiles...
I mean girls...don't you express this to straight guys who hate on you for being trans...
Yet you are hypocritical on this when a guy is bi...
So tiring..so confusing..and so so funny
If a man is into pussy and pussy alone..he isn't going to be into you...as soon as he finds out you have a boink boink...
You are living a fantasy...........if he is interested he has to be a little bi curious...
Sorry..that's the truth...
STRAIGHT MEN DON'T WANT THE COCK AT ALL!
And I'm sorry I don't want to be with a guy who doesn't get me off..
What if he can't fuck..oh yay he gets to cum..what the hell about me...
I mean this is just all too ridiculous..
And by the way before we get into more stereotypes..my husband is a top..I take it in the ass...
Just to clear the air on that...
I find the guys that are "straight" are usually the bottoms
Well what's the problem then Kelly?
Nicole already sad she wanted a sex change so obviously that's her reason for not wanting a guy who likes cock.
So what she said makes sense... Your the one with issues with women who prefer not to date guys who like cock.
I am happy to hear Nicole is on that path, but most men will not date her until she has the operation if they were straight..and even then knowing she used to have one...may still turn them out..Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
IF THEY WERE really straight..
If a guy is attracted to her he is attracted.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
I have no problems dating straight men...
If this is the case that means that every guy I see and meet in the clubs, restaurants, bars, gym are all not really straight.
You really can't determine a sexuality, and you as psych should know that men who date transexual can still be classified straight.
Really? I think there has to be a curiosity or open-mind to even consider it..Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
I think even the guys that don't want to touch it are still turned on by the taboo of it or that it's there...
I just don't live in delusion...
And if the guy is totally straight..why are girls so shocked and dismayed he doesn't want to be seen as any way else?
Why are they so shocked he wont introduce you to his friends and family or if he does he doesn't want to say you are a transsexual...
I just don't understand the conundrum at times..
If she has a vagina and legally a female, for the most part she will have a better chance of finding a straight man.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
You live in Another world Kelly..
Science already determined that biologically it's not the genitals that turn a man on it's the feminine form.
If a vagina is the case then every guy here should be gawking over chaz bono who has a vagina..
Any natural male would be attracted to beautiful woman.. The gentiles are a taboo based on religious views or what not.
By experience, there has never been an issue with any man.
Science Bience..We are talking real life..not science..Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Perception is a lot different than that..
You can stand in front of thousands of totally straight men & women and say Oh but Science said..and they are gonna say you have a dick...you were born a male..
Sorry sweety...We are talking reality here...not useless facts people don't care about..
Didn't I just say he may be attracted to you..until he finds out you have a boink boink..then he'd hit the road..unless curious
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Originally Posted by KellyShore
That's not about being straight! that is a douche move.
And chasers tend to be douche bags!
At east a straight guy who is not into it and is honest is commendable, unlike the chaser who claims he is straight yet can't live a day without cock.
I feel you don't understand anything at all...
Sweetheart You don't understand..Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
I said in my beginning statement it's thrown around to often for anything..oh he is a tranny chaser...he dated another trans - Boom tranny chaser - he waches tranny porn - boom tranny chaser - I mean it's over used and it's just jaded girls...
Science is real life, and someone that has a psyche degree, you sure know very little on human sexuality...Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Sexuality has got nothing to do with the influence of religious views, thats a system that restricts the mind.
If I stand in from of anyone that are not surprised by these system anyone would say I'm a woman.
I am saying it's irrelevant to perception!Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
It's useless facts to a straight person...USELESS...to them it just sounds like an excuse...
And if you had read my first comments, then obviously you would know that I said that never classifies them as chasers...Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Again, with your Jaded, SWEETIE! your the one who does not have friends because you think all ts women are catty, that is why you have no ts friends, and why you had no problem making the ts community in bad light with your post. To me that is jaded.
You never gave reasons, you never gave a sense of understanding.
You also fail to see that most men view as ts in many negative labels as well.
It goes both ways, and it does not make someone jaded without the opposite party driving them to that point. Your point was biased towards the en particularly the men your trying to gain as you followers.
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Originally Posted by KellyShore
Like I said i can stand in front of any straight man ( not in any religious thing)
You my friend can ask them yourself and they will all tell you they see a woman.
This bigotry comes from the root of the bigots with religious backgrounds.
I have never encountered any man to view me any different. However in the ts world I do experience chasers, and normal ts lovers alike.
You probably just never dated a straight man, But hey if you like gay men that;s your thing.
Take your clothes off then ask them :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose