this is TranSSensual ... I saw it the other day and I was shookQuote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
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this is TranSSensual ... I saw it the other day and I was shookQuote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
Attachment 1320656Quote:
Originally Posted by Machamagal
Is there anyway to take this scene to the next level?
I want to see a Gokkun with a straight looking guy swallowing 100 cum loads from ts women. He should do an interview after to make sure he holds it all down.
Should be easy enough to arrange 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBad
And shouldn't cost much to produce, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by sd123223
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBad
Not a problem.
You finance it, and we'll put it together.
Name a grooby model that you expected to be a massive star but didnt take off as expected i.e. because she didn't return or some other reason.
Hey steven,
i loved your club/parties in the past in hollywood.
Do you think you'll ever have a weekly or monthly
club/party in hollywood or l.a. ?
On Twitter I am finding numerous, stunning, Indonesian T Girls who call themselves "waria".Attachment 1322577.
https://twitter.com/PijatAnisa/statu...538116/photo/1
Any prospect of Grooby opening a Jakarta branch office?
If so, can I apply to be a summer intern?
Any of the Model of the Month's who shot and then didn't come back. I can't really think of any one specific - there are a load of girls who shot once and I would have liked top return, often they're in the middle of nowhere and getting them to us, or a producer to them is a problem. Others just try it once and decide that's all they want to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by corbindallas
I think you are thinking of someone else. Buddy used to run a sporadic one in North Hollywood, but I can't recall any others, other than the TEAs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MELIKEYBONECAS
A weekly/monthly party or night? Unlikely. A lot of work for very little reward, and most girls don't want to hang out in a trans orientated club.
It would be nice - but no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Post Op Preferred
The legal situation in Indonesia (the largest Muslim population in the world) is problematic. We've had content from there before, and if a producer did go, I would like to source the content - but as a regular place to shoot, no.
Good points, and thanks for the answer. Sharia law compliance and counsel costs could make shooting T Porn very difficult indeed.
I’ve seen a lot of Grooby Girls at TGirl Nights. Just recently I’ve seen Bee from Anaheim there I think she’s a regular.Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
Bee from Anaheim is from TS Casting Couch.
Jamie runs that night, it's probably the only trans night in California and I've been down a few times, yes usually a few girls around that we'd recognise.
I don't believe Indonesia has Sharia law apart from one autonomous part of the country. Practically any of the S.Asian countries it's difficult to shoot in because of local laws.
Yes i was referring to the teas.
That's unfortunate that it is unlikely.
Club 7969/Peanuts was outstanding for years .
Hamburger Marys in long beach packs the ladies in.
I hear that club cobra is returning,
that club was always filled with girls !
Hallelujah !
"Back in the day" of the late 90s and early 2000's when I was just starting, Peanuts was Mecca. It was amazing and there were other clubs as you mention, Queen Mary was always fun. San Francisco was awesome also, and I had a few awesome encounters at Divas. NYC, New Orleans, Miami - every city had some sort of trans bar. But there are more trans girls now, and more accepted in society than before, and they're not wanting to go to 'tranny' clubs. They're women. And whether they are gay women, or straight women, they're looking to party in gay and straight clubs, not being sidelined into their own place. This is unfortunate for some of the girls who would feel more comfortable in trans clubs, and those who are looking to venture out dressed for their first time, and I wish there were more venues like that. It's also difficult for trans attracted men to meet girls in clubs. Online dating has screwed most of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MELIKEYBONECAS
Cobra I always thought was a shithole. They watered down the drinks, they overcharged to get it in and it seemed more cliquey then other places. The only times I enjoyed it were the days before the TEA show but even then I stopped going - they didn't support us (give our ticket holders a discount or something), they watered the drinks down massively, and hiked the prices up over what they charged on their gay nights - so fuck them.
TEAs 2022!
I loved Queen Mary and Peanuts. I used to go there a lot as a boy.
I finally after many years and false starts began to get seriously dressed up. My number one issue is makeup which I'm still struggling with. It's still my secret side but I've always had an affinity toward trans girls, CDs and drag queens and more importantly wanted to be a girl [at least part time] it's still a big secret in my life but I have met some girlfriends which I am so happy about. I love this forum as well and the positive vibes given to Trans life.
Here I am from last night!Attachment 1323053
That's awesome - thanks for sharing :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by danoblue
Premium services pay based on the videos watched or a flat fee to host your videos?Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
From your end, is it better to go after the tube sites themselves, or the people downloading from them? Like how the MPAA/RIAA went after the downloaders on Napster, Limewire, Pirate Bay, etc.
Can people not pirate a cam site? Dating obviously doesn't pirate well, but I would think it wouldn't be too hard to just mirror your screen in some form to copy a cam, but I'm not a tech guy. And I'm totally guessing, but I don't see a cam site trying to fight piracy as hard since they don't necessarily care about individual performers performances like you would.
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Originally Posted by serial138
Xhamster and Pornhub Premium both offered a share of their premium income based on how much time people spent on a companies videos. This works because those who are too closeted to join a trans site, can join a site that shows everything, and view trans content, yet if caught, can claim they were looking at ... cheerleaders, or MILFS or whatever.
The tube sites operate just within the law. The DMCA laws were put in with good intentions (to stop Youtube for example, being sued when a user uploads copyrighted content, once informed (via a DMCA notice) they have to delete it. The tube sites abused this law, and took a long time to delete the content even when told. Most tube sites now delete the same day. Of course, the real issue here is also it puts the onus of getting your content removed on the copyright holder, and not on the site for accepting the content and not doing due diligence on it, in the first place. This is what is changing quite rapidly now, and you are going to see a lot less pirated content on legit tube sites. Of course, there are sites in places harder to reach (Russia especially) that wilfully ignore it, so you have to go after their hosts and advertisers.
It's not worth it to go after the downloader, it's a lot of work and honestly, who hasn't downloaded a tune, a scene or a TV show at some point. We go after the uploaders, and we've had a lot of success with that, with most uploaders when caught and presented with the evidence willing to settle. As long as it's not a business for them, we usually settle for a mid-4 digit number depending on how much content they uploaded, which stops them doing it again.
Cam sites don't protect their models like they should - but they're beginning to and realizing they need to protect their models, so models either hire DMCA companies or do it themselves. I think within the very near future, we'll see stolen cam content from all the big companies start to get less pirated.
Hey Steven.
I did a search but did not find anything regarding the TEA Awards in 2022. Any info that you can share regarding whether it will happen and if so, dates, locations, etc.?
Hope you are able to pull it off and I most definitely will be there.
EJ
Thanks for the little peek into the business side of things. I've always been curious about the back of house details of how you run the business. Appreciate the insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
Lame question, but here goes anyway: Why doesn't the current "Model of the Week" show the pictures? The image links are all bad.
http://www.grooby.com/modelofweek/current/index.php
will there be more scenes with kendall?
https://www.femout.xxx/tour/models/kendall.html
Never say never, but unlikely at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by shella77
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Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
Fixed
It's planned to go ahead on the usual date (will have exacts later in Aug) but we're very much expecting to do a live show if it's legally and feasibly possible. We'll be looking into what we can do to keep everyone safe, in terms of vaccinationed/distanced/etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ed_jaxon
Hi Steven,
This might be an obvious question for some but not me. How come when I google a Tgirl pornstars name, all the search results are for xhamster & other tube sites, why don't any links to grooby sites come up. For instance I am currently very into watching Nyxi Leons scenes and I periodically have to trawl through all the Grooby sites individually to see if she has any new stuff on there and then join to get the scene etc. Is there any way to do some kind of notification where a favourite porn star appears on one of your sites where you could sign up for an alert or is that not possible? Thanks in advance for the answer.
That's a great idea but I'm not sure we'd be able to implement it. I'll put it forward. I sit in a room with some of the biggest companies in adult, and the owners and CEO's are so smart it's ridiculous, I love to learn from them. The difference between many of them and Grooby, is that they're technology companies doing porn, and we're a porn company who lacks great technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by praetorian
As far as the Googling. This is to do with SEO and it's a problem. Google ranks partially based on traffic and a company like ours has a miniscule among of traffic compared to tube sites (the difference that our traffic is 100% dedicated and PAYING members, and those companies are 100% non-paying people and lots from countries like India or the Middle East who will only search for stolen content as they can't be billed, doesn't come into it.
I just done a test 'Itzel Saenz Porn' on Google. I'm 7 pages in and found the first official Grooby site - and it's the Itzel's post on HungAngels (HA has more traffic than our pay sites). 10 pages in, and it's all just the same few tube sites on repeat. So Google fails in delivering the most relevant results for porn models.
Seems like the all Grooby site function of: "Model Search" takes care of it....no?Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
no - as he'd have to be a member of the sites. he wants notifcation of when his fave model/s has a new update on the site, so he can consider rejoining.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
As A Fan how would you suggest fans meet tgirls in real life? Do you recommend a dating app or going to gay bars or gay clubs? Where do you meet all the new tgirls you film?
Thanks
There are very few bars/clubs left - and fewer girls wanting to go to them, preferring to go to gay/cis clubs instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigm25
There are plenty of dating apps. Taimi is pretty good. I've seen trans girls on OkCupid.
Just don't be a weirdo. Don't make it about them being trans. Treat them like you would any other date. And if you don't plan on being seen with them in public on a date, then hire a sex worker instead.
Most of our models apply directly to work with us.
Thank you. This is very helpful.
2 more questions, I know many users already think there is enough feet and foot content on the Grooby sites, but some customers, like me can't ever get enough. Have you ever looked into doing a foot fetish site?
Also there are lots of compilations style videos now on onlyfans and the tube sites. Did you ever look into doing a compilations style website?
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Originally Posted by bigm25
A foot site. If I made a foot site showing 10 new scenes a day, of every trans star and charged $2.99 - there would still be complaints and asking for more. The foot fetish guys are the most irritating and annoying bunch ever, it doesn't matter how much we show they want more - and if we do some sets without showing feet, it's almost a cardinal sin. It's also rare to find someone into feet, who understands that it's their fetish - and not everyone likes it. Also open secret, not all models have great feet.
That being said ... ;
a) yes, we've looked into it, but without a producer who was genuinely into it and does enough content to run a site then it's a stalling point.
b) I'd be gunshy about investing too much. We had people here who were desperate for a site featuring girls topping guys - swore they'd stay members, that there was so many people into it. We launched it (Tgirltops.com) with great stars, and then the complaints came - either the wrong girls, or we didn't get this girl, or more whining and complaining (more than the rest of the sites put together) and the income wasn't there, so I just tired of trying to run it and made it part of BobsTgirls.com where it sits nicely.
What do you mean 'compiliation videos'? Compilations of ?
Thanks for the input!
Steven, firstly thank you for answering question from us.
My question is one that I have wondered for a long time, is making porn fun for the actresses and actors, or is it work like any other job?
Many times when I think about the actors and actresses who make porn films, I think about the Robert Frost quote, “My goal in life is to unite my avocation with my vocation,
As my two eyes make one in sight.” I mean having sex is fun for normal everyday average folks, so getting paid to have sex would be amazingly fun, but then I say to myself very few jobs unite ones hobbies/things they enjoy with how their earn their livelihoods and I wonder if acting in porn is similar in that it is work and work is not generally also fun.
That's not a new question, I think it's been asked throughout porn history - but it's a good question and I think it changes with the times. I'm just speaking for my experience with trans performers and cis performers we've worked with.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmersh
When we started producing it was all new and fresh. Small video cams were new - and nobody had filmed for the internet, but we were working with a lot of girls who were sex workers (prostitution) and their mentality at the time, was based on an hour rate for the most money.
So many of them would just go through the motions to get paid. Fast foward to 2010 and onwards and there are far more models who came from different walks of life and working in the sex industry (cams, photoshoots and sometimes prostitution) who wanted to work in the adult industry. In our specific niche, we also get a lot of models who don't need the income from working on scenes with us, but they want the validation of being able to be filmed professionally and get paid for a shoot that will appear on sites and promotion, and these models usually really enjoy the work.
It doesn't matter how great looking the model is, if they're not enjoying being in front of the camera, it's going to show and the scene isn't going to do as well. I'd rather take a girl who is pretty with bags of energy and wants to do a great shoot, over a girl who looks like a supermarket but is just going through the motions.
So that's the overview - so what I'd say is that the majority of the models enjoy doing to work. We get models requesting to work with other models, or ones excited to be paired with a performer. Sites like tgirls.porn we try to keep authentic and usually the girls there are really into wanting to do a shoot. There will be a few who are just great actresses and can fake it - but in my experience, the vast majority of models that we work with, do enjoy the actual filming of the scene as long as it stays safe, authentic and the producers are mindful of the time. A 25 min Grooby hardcore usually takes 2-3hrs to film, which seem's a long time. Some of our competitors who do more involved setups, multi-camera, more makeup etc. one scene can have you on set for 8-12 hrs and I think that's why they can occassionally lose a little of their passion/excitement.
Hope this answered it.
Following on this answer, i'm curious how similar or different porn shoot productions are to shooting say a high end commercial or a music video. Is there much overlap between the different production worlds, do you find some of the crew you hire dip between the categories or is it if you're in the porn industry you stick exclusively to that lane? Asking as someone who works in commercial productionsQuote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven