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buttslinger
I saw on Rachel Maddow show that if tuesday night hand been an Alabama House of Representatives election, and the same people voted either democratic or republican, because of gerrymandering, you would have gotten 6 republicans, and one democrat.
I love that someone disliked your post, which if true, is a hard fact and not really something to be angry about. I think that it's perfectly illustrative of how gerrymandering works. It ensures lots of small wins in districts for your guys and then sequesters the other side's voters in one district for a single large win. Curious to see who the angry person is who hates explanations about gerrymandering. Dreamon is that you? Just be honest if it is.
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Just curious. Anyone have any thoughts about Bernie Sanders not endorsing Doug Jones? I'm not a fan of it but I guess I've said that:)
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broncofan
Just curious. Anyone have any thoughts about Bernie Sanders not endorsing Doug Jones? I'm not a fan of it but I guess I've said that:)
The argument in the NYT link below is that Alabama voters are sensitive folk and would not take kindly to out-of-state radicals being bussed in to stand by Doug Jones side. Even Biden when he visited was seen as a risk but is a long-time friend of Jones, so no major Democrat figures showed up -no Obama, no Clinton, no leading Senators -but they did a lot behind the scenes in fund-raising and organization. You could even say this was a tactical success, tailoring a campaign to its local features. It is also the case that Doug Jones is a mild-mannered lawyer compared to Roy Moore's hysterical John Wayne with a Bible (but a reluctant horse) and that he did not, as far as I am aware, run any fire and brimstone ads attacking Moore. Does this mean Moore lost rather than Jones won? Perhaps.
And anyway, Sanders is not a Democrat. And, as has been discussed before, it suggests the Democrats have to move on and start putting the next generation of leaders in front of the cameras, not yesterday's men and women.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/u...democrats.html
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last night kentucky state rep. dan johnson committed suicide by shooting himself in the head near a bridge in mt. washington after allegations of sexual molestation of a teenage girl. below is his facebook post made shortly before taking his life:
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weird how an innocent man with horizontal restraints (wife and kids) choses suicide instead of fighting to clear his name. but he loved god and his family and since god forgives all and his family has also been asked to forgive all i guess he's in the clear now
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bluesoul
weird how an innocent man with horizontal restraints (wife and kids) choses suicide instead of fighting to clear his name. but he loved god and his family and since god forgives all and his family has also been asked to forgive all i guess he's in the clear now
Indeed, and a more telling point is that the same people who claim God is the all-powerful author of all things, don't explain how this God is powerless to help men like Dan Johnson. Or maybe Dan Johnson gave up on God by taking his own life, the life that he would claim God gave him.
Roy Moore has issued a ridiculous Christmas message, utterly bereft of the humility and grace one would expect a Christian to deliver at Christmas, a time of 'peace and goodwill to all men'. Instead, having claimed the Constitution recognises that all people are equal, he then degrades the same people by blaming them for everything that he thinks has gone wrong with America, even claiming there is no difference between two corrupt political parties, one of which supported his campaign in the election he is still reluctant to concede he lost. This is so remote from the Christian life it is a pity he can't be sued under the trades description act, but the more relevant fact is he lost. And no amount of counting and blame can change that fact.
But one also notes the complete lack of grace in these losers, when even the President who campaigned for Moore, now claims he always said Moore would not win! This is a fish rotting from the head down.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/14/roy-...ube-video.html
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buttslinger
ha ha ha
I heard Omarosa was cussing out Gen Kelly and demanding to see the President, and he refused so she tried to sneak into to the White House Residence section and was escorted out by Secret Service.
that part wasn't true and omarosa confirmed as much although i'm not sure whether i'd believe her considering her reputation, close relationship (sort of?) with trump and the fact that she still technically works for him until jan 20th
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Stavros
And anyway, Sanders is not a Democrat. And, as has been discussed before, it suggests the Democrats have to move on and start putting the next generation of leaders in front of the cameras, not yesterday's men and women.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/u...democrats.html
Thank you for this. I saw this after I posted and realized the attacks on him on social media are probably unfair if he was suppressing his view to avoid alienating Alabama voters. You're right that the party needs to move on from him, but it depends on whether Bernie will allow it to as many of his followers are obsessed with his cult of personality and want to draw divisions that don't need to exist. If he's the guy that the voters want then so be it but if he's not, there has to be a way to rein in his cult...I realize this view will not be everybody's cup of tea.....I don't necessarily think he's a bad guy, just that the Bernie movement is more aspirational than anything else and provides a good fantasy for people but not a means of achieving things.
It's hard to find good news when a child abuser who has made numerous racist statements over the years nearly wins an election, but it was a good outcome in that Republicans further compromised themselves and still lost. Whether that is punished by voters in the future or has a lasting effect on their brand remains to be seen. It is a shame that there are so many cultural divisions in this country that we have fewer and fewer common values.
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bluesoul
weird how an innocent man with horizontal restraints (wife and kids) choses suicide instead of fighting to clear his name. but he loved god and his family and since god forgives all and his family has also been asked to forgive all i guess he's in the clear now
And theologically isn't suicide as big a sin as anything among Christians? Or does this only apply to Catholics?
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kind of. the problem is that killing oneself goes against human nature of survival (or trying to avoid death) so the question is why did someone kill themselves or rather, why did someone kill? was jack kevorkian a murderer or doctor? did his patients go to hell (even though they were suffering greatly or were they forgiven and do they now adorn halos and wings?)
another example is someone who is so delusional they think they can fly and jump off a building. technically suicide, but they're too disconnected for that to qualify since they didn't consent to die.
so for it to be properly a mortal sin (the worst of the very worst): you have to be healthy and totally consenting to killing yourself i.e. i just don't want to live anymore
the question about the dan johnson suicide is whether you believe him when he says "16 years is a sickness that will take my life" and "i cannot handle it". was he in some kind of pain and anguish?
how about robin williams?
suicide is a case by case basis which, i'm sure, god and his auditor thomas aquinas are more than qualified to handle.
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16 women who have been molested by Trump band together to demand that Congress investigate.
And 56 female Democratic lawmakers demand an investigation of trumps sexual misconduct.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whit...ak-out-n828356
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/se...-trump-n828611
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How does the US selects its judges?
Over the years the judiciary in England has been the subject of intense scrutiny over the background of judges, but when a candidate for a senior court in the US doesn't even know basic terms in law and has never tried a case you have to wonder if there are even elementary requirements for the job -he is so obviously unqualified for the job he could in this context just as easily be nominated Attorney General. Farcical. One assumes his nomination will be withdrawn.
Video is in the link if you can bear to watch it.
One of Donald Trump’s nominees to become a federal judge has failed to answer a string of basic questions about law.
Matthew Spencer Petersen admitted he was unfamiliar with several common legal terms during questioning by Republican Senator John Kennedy at a hearing earlier this week.
Mr Petersen, a member of the Federal Election Commission, had been selected by the President to become a federal judge on the US District Court for the District of Columbia.
However, he admitted during questioning that he had never tried a criminal or civil trial.
Video of the hearing posted to Twitter by Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, showed Mr Peterson failing to explain basic legal terms such as “motion in limine” - a request filed by a party to a lawsuit which asks the court for an order or ruling limiting or preventing certain evidence from being presented by the other side at the trial of the case.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8111826.html
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october 28th 2016: trump seems to have a lot of faith in the FBI (headline is a little misleading i have to admit)
today: "it's a shame. what's happened to the FBI? it's a very sad thing to watch"
btw- tom fuentes: don't fuck with this guy. seriously. don't. fuck. with this guy.
sideline: remember the story of gulliver's travels? well, tom fuentes is gulliver. and we're the lilliputians- only thing is, we're all the same size. not exactly a guy to fuck with
so, where were we?
i'll give trump this (in this case): the press did take his words out of context. he was- in his way- expecting the FBI to find hillary (clinton) guilty. but the press wrote it as he was praising them. he wasn't. he just said, he hoped they would do the right thing. they did. it just wasn't right in his context.
today, again, not really sure i agree with the press here. i think they have gone beyond trying to drum up some sensation where there is none. all he is saying is he stands by the police and he will not stand by the anti-police sentiment. okay, but what president wouldn't say that?
my point? and i have one: ahem ahem... coughs like hell (sorry, been smoking more)
the press isn't fucking helping by printing bullshit because all it does is fuel the right and radical the left and vice versa. imo, the only way things will get better is if both sides understand each other and currently a matter of "i'm right" vs "no, i'm the one who is right" etc
i get it: some people can't be helped. the "vex" person constantly claiming communism for example (hilarious but boring) but we're just going around in circles addressing them. why?
too much entertainment and not enough research. in short: you're wasting your fucking time.
btw: consider this a side post with the climate change thread. can't be fucked to move it since donald trump is fucking climate change anyway right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXIxfytkSs
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The Republicans did shoot down a couple of Trump's worst Judge nominees, right after Moore lost. No experience at all as Judges.
Many of Trump's appointees are like the wife of World Wrestling Federation's Vince McMahon, or the guy from Blackwater's sister. For a while there was talk he was going to have Blackwater fight the war in Afghanistan. All mercenaries, or something. If the shit you can SEE is this toxic, think what he does that you CAN'T see!!
This morning he announced he was going to FIX the FBI. Is that code for spayed and neutered??
If you set a Veternarian approaching, Bob Mueller, pull out your service revolver, please!!!!!
Why aren't more old Republicans livid over this Russia thing, most of them lived through twenty years of Cold War with Russia. What does it take to get Trump FIXED?
A tax bill?
No tax bill?
A nuclear attack on Rocket Man??
We may not have enough time to get a Democratic House and Senate.
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we don't need the time, but thank god for the republican's, they're buying us that time with prayer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtcUdLzp5HA
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here is a list of words trump has banned the cdc (center of disease control) from using:
transgender
fetus
diversity
science-based
evidence-based
entitlement
vulnerable
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/h...ned-words.html
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/o...logan-act.html
The Logan Act makes it a crime for a United States citizen, “without authority” from the federal government, to communicate with foreign officials in order to “influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government” in a dispute with the United States or “to defeat the measures of the United States.” A conviction can result in a prison sentence of up to three years.
I had not looked at the arguments against the enforcement of the Logan Act, but they are really not very good. The fact that Trump was the incoming president does not mean the law does not apply. It applies to anyone who is not the head of the executive branch. Some have argued that the Trump team was merely trying to express foreign policy preferences to Russia but that is obviously untrue as well. The purpose of what Flynn said was to coordinate a response from Russia that would undermine the policies of the sitting President. He did not even say what the policy of the United States would be but instead directed Russia on how they should react.
The argument others are trotting out is that the statute's lack of use should make it unenforceable. They call this legal argument desuetude. I have not read articles or case law on the subject but it seems to me if it should apply, then it should apply to a statute that has been violated frequently, but has not been enforced. This is a case where the statute has been on the books and it has generally not been used to prosecute people because it's not common for someone to interfere with the foreign policy prerogatives of the president in this manner. If anything, the transition period provides the perfect opportunity to do so in a way that has a real effect because there could be genuine confusion about who has power.
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Stavros
How does the US selects its judges?
Over the years the judiciary in England has been the subject of intense scrutiny over the background of judges, but when a candidate for a senior court in the US doesn't even know basic terms in law and has never tried a case you have to wonder if there are even elementary requirements for the job -he is so obviously unqualified for the job he could in this context just as easily be nominated Attorney General. Farcical. One assumes his nomination will be withdrawn.
Petersen has now withdrawn his nomination.
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blackchubby38
If Trump does win:
I think our democracy will survive.
I don't think it will lead to an apocalypse. But America won't become the utopia again that him and his supporters think it will be either. I can see members of his own party in Congress as well as Democrats fighting him any chance they get when it comes to some of his proposals. So expect 4 more years of gridlock.
As for what will happen on the international stage, who knows? We have to wait and see who would Trump surround himself when it comes to key cabinet positions and most importantly what his doctrine will be when it comes to foreign policy. For the world's sake, lets just hope it doesn't revolve around some kind of isolationism.
If Trump does win, I don't think the Republican Party will ever be the same. I think the primary showed you that Republican voters were fed up with the status quo and were ready for something new. So they're not going to want to go back to that.
But I think the same can be said for the Democratic party one as well. Who will emerge to become the new "it" candidate in wake of Hillary's defeat and what direction will they want to take the party in. Because a Trump victory will signify that people were truly fed up with political correctness, the Left's perceived weakness on Radical Islam, and illegal immigration. That they were fed up with being labeled a racist, sexist, anti-LGBT community gun-loving xenophobe because they dared question any aspect of those aforementioned groups of people. In other words, that "deplorable" remark will wind up coming back to bite Hillary and the Democrats in the ass.
I know one thing is for sure. Regardless of who wins, you're looking at a country that is going to be divided more than ever because one of the two most polarizing candidates in history is now the President of the United States. The amount of resentment and animosity towards to what people will consider the "other side" is only going to get worse. All you have to do is look to reaction of those who opposed Colin Kapernick's stance against police brutality and the actions of some the protesters in Charlotte.
Our country isn't a Democracy. It's a Constitutional Republic. Democracy fails because the fools of society have too much power. —"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands..." it's not and to the Democracy. Our founding fathers knew that giving too much power to the masses would lead to a circus.
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broncofan
The Logan Act makes it a crime for a United States citizen, “without authority” from the federal government, to communicate with foreign officials in order to “influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government” in a dispute with the United States or “to defeat the measures of the United States.” A conviction can result in a prison sentence of up to three years.
I had not looked at the arguments against the enforcement of the Logan Act, but they are really not very good. The fact that Trump was the incoming president does not mean the law does not apply. It applies to anyone who is not the head of the executive branch. Some have argued that the Trump team was merely trying to express foreign policy preferences to Russia but that is obviously untrue as well. The purpose of what Flynn said was to coordinate a response from Russia that would undermine the policies of the sitting President. He did not even say what the policy of the United States would be but instead directed Russia on how they should react.
The argument others are trotting out is that the statute's lack of use should make it unenforceable. They call this legal argument desuetude. I have not read articles or case law on the subject but it seems to me if it should apply, then it should apply to a statute that has been violated frequently, but has not been enforced. This is a case where the statute has been on the books and it has generally not been used to prosecute people because it's not common for someone to interfere with the foreign policy prerogatives of the president in this manner. If anything, the transition period provides the perfect opportunity to do so in a way that has a real effect because there could be genuine confusion about who has power.
I think the issue with the Logan Act in this instance, is that it has not been used to prosecute before because there was no reason to, whereas this latest Transition Team behaved in a reckless manner, and moreover, with the Russians.
It is precisely the connections to Russia that give this aspect of the Logan Act an additional warrant for investigation because
a) Russia is not an ally of the USA,
b) there is clear evidence that during the campaign the President made direct appeals to the Russian government for assistance with his campaign against an American citizen, and
c) the Russians were, and are, using cyber technology to attack and undermine democratic governments in Europe and North America.
If, for example, the Transition Team held discussion with the Conservative Party in the UK on a post-Brexit trade deal, that would be improper, but not a major crime as the UK is in alliance with the US in NATO, and any talks on trade would be hypothetical given the uncertainty of the UK's relationship with the EU after 2019.
Russia is not in alliance with the USA, and its economic interests conflict with those of the USA, but, crucially, the communications the Transition Team exchanged with the Russians concerned live policy issues that the Transition Team did not have the authority to discuss, as they were the business of the elected government of the USA whose President at the time was Barack Obama, and only one man can be President at any one time. It is clear the Logan Act was violated in this instance.
The second point concerns the extent to which the Republican Party candidate during the campaign appealed to a foreign government, and also to an organization called Wikileaks that works in alliance with the Russian government, to help undermine the campaign of an American citizen. It established a reasonable suspicion that there was, or the candidate wanted there to be, a direct relationship with the Russian government. It could be argued that far from being a campaign stunt, the appeal was followed up at the time, and that a 'relationship' or some 'communications' with the Russian government continued so that during the transition period the team felt able, even justified to discuss and implement policy without any legal right to do so.
Not only is there a clear violation of the Logan Act, morally it is quite remarkable that an American running for the Presidency should so openly appeal to a foreign government to attack one of its own citizens also running for office, as well as recruit the assistance of a sub-state organization that leaked materials illegally procured from US agencies that were published on the World Wide Web. In fact at the time there was a case for an investigation into the campaign team before the election was even held, and I wonder if there could have been a legal case to have the candidate arrested, and/or removed from the campaign by the Republican Party -?
Consider the context, because it is now clear that the Russians have been engaged in a systematic attempt to undermine democratic government in Europe and North America, cyber-warfare by any other name.
Vladimir Putin owes his current position to Boris Yeltsin, but the closer he got to Yeltsin, the more he saw of the corrupt nature of Russian government that had conferred staggering riches on a few men, that had undermined the institutions that had been developed in the USSR which gave Russia some form of governmental integrity, and weakened the Russian economy by giving independence to states which previously buttressed the Russian economy with imports, grain from the Ukraine being an obvious example.
Putin fought on two fronts when he became President
-domestic: re-structuring the economy to advantage average citizens at the expense of oligarchs -if the oligarchs co-operated, Putin let them keep their wealth in exchange for a share, if they crossed him they would end up in prison or exile. He also moved to reduce the share of Russian resources owned by global corporations, with BP and Royal Dutch-Shell the primary 'victims' -allowed to retain certain assets in the country, but obliged to sell even more back to Russian companies (in which he owns a share). And of course, BP and Shell also have substantial investments in the USA.
On the international front, Putin lost faith in 'the west' because he felt deceived at the manner in which the Security Council was used to justify regime change in Iraq, and in Libya, and because he felt that too many 'entrepreneurs' in the west had taken advantage of Russia in the Yeltsin period, and because substantial sums of money originating in Russia had flowed out of the country and into real estate deals in Europe and the US, some of that money being receipts from crime, organized crime having established a deep presence in the USSR notably in the 1970s. Putin thus sees himself as the 'saviour' of Russia, and appears to think that Russia is not held in the same esteem as the USA, Germany, France and even Britain. Hence his campaign in Syria, to both protect the Asad regime, but also to demonstrate the real power of the Russians to determine the outcome of events outside the country.
One must also say that Putin was appalled at the sight of a Black man in the White House, and that for both the future 'President Debt' and those close to him, from Felix Sater and other Russian businessmen, to admirers of Putin such as Michael Flynn, it was not just the threat of another Democrat -and Hillary Clinton too- in the White House, but a seething resentment bordering on mental illness that regarded Barack Obama as someone to be opposed, ridiculed, undermined and attacked at every opportunity. The mere fact that a Black man could be elected President in the USA was proof of the dangers of democracy and the lad from Queens agreed, and found common cause with Putin.
There is a reason why the Russia ties stink. And the reasons feed directly into the Logan Act, quite apart from the other potentially illegal acts committed since the campaign began, and since the inauguration. Whether or not actual proceedings will follow we must wait and see. Either way, 2018 is going to be an interesting year.
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BostonBad
Our country isn't a Democracy...... Our founding fathers knew that giving too much power to the masses would lead to a circus.
Our Founding Fathers weren't real keen on giving power to blacks or women either!!!
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.
The "TRUMP TEST" is to see what happens when the system gets "infected" by a germ or virus, does the system fight off the infection and survive or die?
I'm hearing that the House Republicans, some of them, have set up a secret society to come up with evidence of their own to discredit Mueller's team and have just cause under the Constitution to dismiss the entire Mueller Operation, it's just like anti-biotics, if you don't totally kill an infection, it roars back with a vengeance!!!
There's plenty of reason to be afreared, almost the entire Republican Party gathered around Trump and sang his praises like he was a STAR yesterday.......
But I think if he actually tried to fire Mueller, they'd turn on him. Fair Weather Friends, that lot.
What a midterm election we might have if the economy is booming and all of Trump's circle are facing indictments!!!
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There's plenty of reason to be afreared, almost the entire Republican Party gathered around Trump and sang his praises like he was a STAR yesterday.......
That was so freaking creepy! Those little speeches sounded exactly like the prayers you would hear at a Evangelical Thanksgiving dinner, except they weren't being offered to God, but rather to the Executive in Chief! It still gives me the creeps thinking about it.
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Listen, everything we know is "hearsay" it's not the hard cold facts.
I know Putin is stinking rich, there are rumors he may be the richest man in the World, dirty money,
I know the secret to success is to keep your mouth shut, and that's what Mueller is doing, that's the opposite of what Trump is doing. But my imagination is doing backflips to try and figure out what really happened November 2016.
If Mueller has all of Trump's business records, he's toast. Like Stalin's top advisor used to tell him "Show me the man, I'll get you the crime"......A New York City Real Estate Tycoon probably breaks the law everyday. And Trump already has overwhelming evidence that he broke or bent the law just like he lies: All the time.
Whatever happens is going to have huge consequences for the Country, If Trump gets exposed and it gets really ugly, after Bush destroyed the economy, what will the Republican Party look like?
Nice job on that takedown the other night, Broncofan, let's hope your Broncos don't handle themselves as well this Sunday.
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That was so freaking creepy! Those little speeches sounded exactly like the prayers you would hear at a Evangelical Thanksgiving dinner, except they weren't being offered to God, but rather to the Executive in Chief! It still gives me the creeps thinking about it.
I think they said Pence personally praised him every 11 seconds.
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I think they said Pence personally praised him every 11 seconds.
And...
It comes just weeks after Mr Trump reportedly branded his deputy “low class” and his family “yokels” for bringing pets to the Naval Observatory – the official residence of the US Vice President.
Reports of friction between the pair over Mr Pence’s religious conservatism have regularly flared since Mr Trump took office and he has repeatedly mocked Mr Pence’s Christianity in public.
During a discussion about LGBTQ rights, Mr Trump reportedly motioned to Mr Pence and said: “Don’t ask that guy—he wants to hang them all!”, according to the New Yorker’s Jane Meyer.
Ms Pence’s wife Karen is reported to believe Mr Trump is “totally vile”, according to a former campaign aide.
Ms Pence is said to have revealed her true feelings about Mr Trump just after the Access Hollywood video was released, which showed Mr Trump boasting about sexually assaulting women.
Among the items of praise from Mike 'Bucket' Pence is this gem, on the same day most of the members of the UN voted against the USA's recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel-
You’ve restored American credibility on the world stage. We’re standing with our allies. We’re standing up to our enemies.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8121911.html
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dean winslow, a stanford university professor of medicine and former air force surgeon, withdrew his name from consideration to be assistant secretary of defense for health affairs after he found out his appointment was put on 'indefinite hault' for saying "how insane it is that in the united states of america a civilian can go out and buy a semiautomatic weapon like an AR-15"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.2076757d635c
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Maybe if Mueller's investigation goes for another year, like they say it will, and Pence gets caught in the net, Nancy Pelosi will be President!!!!!!!!
In American Football, players play their position.
Until the play breaks down.
Then you can see their body language totally revert to prehistoric attack mode.
One time NBC Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel was on Rachel Maddow's show, and it seems like he had had a few drinks and they rushed him on camera because he was spilling his guts about everything his journalists buddies knew about the Trump Dossier, which had just broke. He said they had all tried to get the dirt on the Trump/Whore Summit which took place in the rigged Moscow hotel room, but nobody could get nothing. It had the feel of what Journalists must sound like when they're gossiping amongst themselves off camera. Imagine what goes on over on Fox News!
Trump is a weird guy, they said he had a very strange relationship with his Mother and his Father had to throw him in Military School, for pete's sake. Every wife he's had is a Trophy Fuck Wife, he talks about his sexual conquests like a big game hunter, I doubt he's ever had a real friend in his life. If you play amateur detective, you have to put your Sherlock Deerstalker hat on and try to figure out how much he confided in with Michael Flynn. If you light up your Sigmund Freud cigar you have to try and predict how far Trump would go to defend himself from complete and total ruin, I'll need 12 diet cokes to try and figure all this out. Trump got elected not being a Maverick, he was the wild card. This may end up being a Lewis Carroll story, all the real answers found through the looking glass.
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Maybe if Mueller's investigation goes for another year, like they say it will, and Pence gets caught in the net, Nancy Pelosi will be President!!!!!!!!
The smart money is on Nikki Haley, and if her performance at the UN is the evidence, she probably has your name in her black book, Mr Buttslinger. Suggest you emigrate. Try Canada.
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Stavros
The smart money is on Nikki Haley, and if her performance at the UN is the evidence, she probably has your name in her black book, Mr Buttslinger. Suggest you emigrate. Try Canada.
There is a pecking order if the President dies or gets impeached:
Vice President,
then Speaker of the House
Alexander Haig once famously altered it,
but if Trump and Pence both got impeached a day after the 2018 elections, and the Democrats won the House,
believe it or not Nancy Pelosi would be President.
As for watching my step when I talk about the President of the United States of America, you can bet I have deleted many posts that were questionable in their passion.
I do have a real classy flat in London all picked out if things get too hot here.
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trish
That was so freaking creepy! Those little speeches sounded exactly like the prayers you would hear at a Evangelical Thanksgiving dinner, except they weren't being offered to God, but rather to the Executive in Chief! It still gives me the creeps thinking about it.
Or something you would see in North Korea or Stalinist Russia. At least those people had the excuse that they would probably be executed if they didn't fawn on the leader.
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Last January I called up the Washington Post and told them that I could no longer afford the 650 bucks a year subscription price, and I said it was a real shame because "we need you now" ...anyway the guy said I could get a whole year for $188!!
The paper is about a third of the weight it used to be, because of the internet, craigslist, and cable TV news, so I'm going to have to see if my luck has run out in a couple weeks, or canI still afford to start each day with the Sudoku and Crossword, and the news I read the day before.
Those Republicans always seem to have a DESIGNATED SLEEZEBAG from a deep red state to do their political dirtywork.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.a6fd6247ab3d
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Looks like Junior is heading for the chop. Cut off an elephant's tail and see what happens, whether its name is Dumbo or Steve.
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.
Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”
More here-
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-michael-wolff
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Thanks for tricking me into clicking on Trump's twitter page, bluesoul!! Yuck!!
Wolff's book will be all over "the shows" tonight, but I don't think death by book fits the crime.
Seeing as how Trump don't read no books.
It's got to be death by TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWxm80WxWgU
just kidding, Mueller has to get him on secret deals with Putin, while Pence was clueless one heartbeat away.
In two or three threads going on here right now, it is apparent that making THE LAW the same for ALL PEOPLE is like stepping up to the craps table. Drunks, Gun Enthusiasts, Voters, Parents,....unless they are made to pass some kind of intelligence test, giving them RIGHTS is a recipe for disaster. That's how we roll here in the USA, I guess.
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Another snippet from the gibbet- but is it true, and wasn't there a time when we waited impatiently for Bob Woodward's book?
Trump reportedly argued with the Secret Service over whether he could have a lock on his bedroom – “the first time since the Kennedy White House that a presidential couple had maintained separate rooms”, Wolff writes – and told housekeeping he would strip his own bed and leave his shirts on the floor. Wolff also says the president, who is known to fear being poisoned, told no one to touch his toothbrush.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ook-highlights
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He eats at McDonalds because it's premade and can't be poisoned (or spit on)
Today he put a couple Federal Judges in NYC that would conceivably oversee his money laundering trial. Friends of Giuliani. While his buddy Manafort sues Mueller. If I were the suspicious sort, I might think he's obstructin'
Nixon was devious
Reagan was a nowhere man
But Trump is potentially dangerous as shit.
Even Bush wasn't above starting a war,
Today they were saying the nuclear football comes with a "Denny's Menu" that Jimmy Carter made that has pictures of the kind of nuclear war you want.
Because you may only have minutes to act, you just point to the picture of carnage you deem necessary.
Five keys get turned simultaneously, but only two actually count, to weed out the chickenshits!! YOWWEEE!
I also learned today that when the President pushes the red button on the desk, a guy comes in and takes your order for a diet coke. So that's a relief.
C'mon Mueller, eat at McDonalds PLEASE!!!
Putin loves to poison his adversaries.
I'm sure he has a few guys in the FBI.
Is it me or have Trump's tweets succeeded in keeping Democrats dumbfounded while he loots the Treasury right under our noses?
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https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...78893610913793
He'll be cracked like an egg on national tv Bannon says. We'll see.
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Question of the Day:
Who said, after listing some of his achievements in life:
I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!
Clue: it's not Beethoven.
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I guarantee you no press will be allowed behind closed doors at this weekend's frigid Camp David Mensa Meeting.
Jeff Sessions: "I wonder if they're talking about me behind my back?"
Donald Trump: "I wonder if they're talking about me behind my back?"
My guess would be they'll have a big cake with ENTITLEMENTS written on it in gold icing, and they'll be deciding the best way to slice it. Pure Genius.
Michael Woflf said the one thing everyone agreed with is that Trump is like a child.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w77vg-5m9uo