Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
Lester316
Aside from all that it's the hardest time in years to make big money in porn with free tube sites stealing content and 'fans' watching it there rather than supporting the performers/producers.
A Fucking-men.
When a guy tells me he's my biggest fan, I know he's lying. I know every one of my top fans personally... my biggest fans:
1) Subscribe to my website.
2) Chat with me either by paid webcam or phone.
3) Purchase individual; clips from me.
The ONLY reason I have been making porn since 2011 is because I've had a solid enough core group of fans, who buy and make me profitable enough to keep making more.
I don't care if it's me or another model you dig... BUY the porn; PAY to see them on webcam. It's the only way we can stay in the industry.
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
Wendy Summers
A Fucking-men.
When a guy tells me he's my biggest fan, I know he's lying. I know every one of my top fans personally... my biggest fans:
1) Subscribe to my website.
2) Chat with me either by paid webcam or phone.
3) Purchase individual; clips from me.
The ONLY reason I have been making porn since 2011 is because I've had a solid enough core group of fans, who buy and make me profitable enough to keep making more.
I don't care if it's me or another model you dig... BUY the porn; PAY to see them on webcam. It's the only way we can stay in the industry.
Thank you Wendy.
I have to admit I wish I had the sort of disposable income that allowed me to do exactly that with all the performers I like, what I won't do though is use that as an excuse to find their content for free. Right now I'm still a student and I have to pick and choose carefully what I can afford - safe to say when I'm making some real cash I'm going to do some stellar catching up - I may have to remind myself to invest in some sort of wrist support first though...
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
You can't blame people for the misconception. When people are posting about luxury items, trips on private jets, and other sort of things on social media. You would be hard press to have someone think they are not making any money. Especially when you have escorts who charge 1k hour, what in the world people are going to think. The second question people will ask if you see all these things then you wonder where does all the money go?
Not many people are familiar with the porn industry. They hear it makes billions in the media and don't much about it. Do people make money in industry, yes, but not the amount you think. Some may say people are stupid, but in reality it is what many people are told about the industry in media. What you see can be the most convincing thing.
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
lifeisfiction
You can't blame people for the misconception. When people are posting about luxury items, trips on private jets, and other sort of things on social media. You would be hard press to have someone think they are not making any money. Especially when you have escorts who charge 1k hour, what in the world people are going to think. The second question people will ask if you see all these things then you wonder where does all the money go?
Not many people are familiar with the porn industry. They hear it makes billions in the media and don't much about it. Do people make money in industry, yes, but not the amount you think. Some may say people are stupid, but in reality it is what many people are told about the industry in media. What you see can be the most convincing thing.
All the media I've seen in recent years is about how the porn industry is slowing dying due to the rise of tube sites and 'homemade' porn. Some of your points are valid but the message being given to the public right now is porn doesn't make you much money.
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
lifeisfiction
Not many people are familiar with the porn industry. They hear it makes billions in the media and don't much about it. Do people make money in industry, yes, but not the amount you think. Some may say people are stupid, but in reality it is what many people are told about the industry in media. What you see can be the most convincing thing.
The performers aren't the ones making the big money--especially not the trans performers. It's the lowest-paying niche. It's yet another part of the bullshit they have to face daily.
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
Lester316
All the media I've seen in recent years is about how the porn industry is slowing dying due to the rise of tube sites and 'homemade' porn. Some of your points are valid but the message being given to the public right now is porn doesn't make you much money.
Just type porn and billions and you will see what I mean. I have never heard the media discuss tube sites only the adult news media discussed it. If mass media mention illegal downloads it would be in reference to Hollywood movies and music. Porn is looked upon as lucrative and sensational regardless of people's moral views. In addition, most people just follow their favorite porn actress and that's pretty much it.
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
lifeisfiction
Just type porn and billions and you will see what I mean. I have never heard the media discuss tube sites only the adult news media discussed it. If mass media mention illegal downloads it would be in reference to Hollywood movies and music. Porn is looked upon as lucrative and sensational regardless of people's moral views. In addition, most people just follow their favorite porn actress and that's pretty much it.
Well I could say type 'porn losing money' and you'll get plenty of hits. The point with websearching terms is that googlewhacks are rare and if you look for something you'll find it.
Anyhow in recent times I've read online articles and even seen a BBC documentary detailing how porn is struggling just as examples. They weren't adult media in the slightest and the BBC is about as mainstream as it gets.
Most people may just follow a pornstar or whatever but it is crazy to suggest that most people know whether porn is lucrative or not. The reality is most have no idea either way.
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
Wendy Summers
A Fucking-men.
When a guy tells me he's my biggest fan, I know he's lying. I know every one of my top fans personally... my biggest fans:
1) Subscribe to my website.
2) Chat with me either by paid webcam or phone.
3) Purchase individual; clips from me.
The ONLY reason I have been making porn since 2011 is because I've had a solid enough core group of fans, who buy and make me profitable enough to keep making more.
I don't care if it's me or another model you dig... BUY the porn; PAY to see them on webcam. It's the only way we can stay in the industry.
Preach on Wendy!
I've paid for a LOT of porn (just ask Steven Grooby LoL) over the years....but the bottom line is that if you want to see more, then get a membership!
No ifs, ands, or buts.....Why should the women produce more when folks aren't ponying up for subscriptions to the sites?
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
Lester316
Movie and TV stars who earn the big bucks either shoot 2-3 films a year or star in one TV show with a large episode commitment and get paid millions for it, Tom Cruise isn't selling pics on snapchat and Jennifer Lawrence doesn't need to dance at a strip club to supplement her income. .
As an aside, Harrison Ford was paid £10,000 for his work on the original Star Wars movie, the actor playing Chewbacca got $5,400 and the man in the Darth Vader suit got nothing at all. However, if actors on films ask for percentages of the takings, that is where they can make millions -Sir Alec Guinness, who had gone for percentages before and lost did not expect Star Wars to become such a phenomenon but is estimated to have made over $50m from his 2.25%. This is the link with the claims-
https://www.quora.com/How-much-were-...he-latest-film
Porn is on a completely different level and cannot be compared, and I suspect Jenna Jameson probably made as much if not more money from her 'celebrity' appearances and the book How to Make Love Like a Porn Star than in the films she made-but as with porn and film and tv a lot depends on what people do with the money they earn, plenty just spend it and end up bankrupt while others invest it and do well.
Re: The TS Jessy Dubai Case
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Originally Posted by
Stavros
As an aside, Harrison Ford was paid £10,000 for his work on the original
Star Wars movie, the actor playing Chewbacca got $5,400 and the man in the Darth Vader suit got nothing at all. However, if actors on films ask for percentages of the takings, that is where they can make millions -Sir Alec Guinness, who had gone for percentages before and lost did not expect
Star Wars to become such a phenomenon but is estimated to have made over $50m from his 2.25%. This is the link with the claims-
https://www.quora.com/How-much-were-...he-latest-film
Porn is on a completely different level and cannot be compared, and I suspect Jenna Jameson probably made as much if not more money from her 'celebrity' appearances and the book
How to Make Love Like a Porn Star than in the films she made-but as with porn and film and tv a lot depends on what people do with the money they earn, plenty just spend it and end up bankrupt while others invest it and do well.
As an aside is referring to a film made over 30 years ago really relevant? Anyhow Harrison Ford might have only made £10,000 for his role (still crazy money to normal people) but his earnings following what was clearly a breakout performance have dwarfed that.
The real irony of it all is Guinness made so much from a role he hated and comparatively tiny amounts from roles he may have felt were more befitting of his status. Explains why Hopkins is going to be in Bay's next Transformers film though...
I wonder how many porn performers love what they do and make relatively bugger all compared to those that hate it but simply do it for the money.
