WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange handed himself in to British police

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Originally Posted by BritneyBoykins

I LOVE older men :dancing:

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...& my hope has been restored...

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

im pretty sure your forgetting the fact that you represent grooby and you knocking any tgirl isnt right period.i want him dead as do alot of others and you know it.ya think there government officials dont want him dead?come on you know better then that.

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"knocking any tgirl isnt right period" - well apart from being the only sentence you've spelled correct during this last week, that the fuck? I'm not going to pussyfoot (oo-er) around someone just because they are a tgirl ... what sort of namby pamby politically correct shit is that? I'll treat you the same as I'll treat anybody else, regardless of gender identity.

Yeah of course I think there are plenty of people who want him dead but you are the only one who keeps harping on about it here and who is making silly statements. Did you look up your precious Privacy Laws by the way? I bet you wish you'd done that before trying to use them to support your case?

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Originally Posted by dlbi22

lisa is a dope

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your a fag go suck your boyfriends dick asshole

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Originally Posted by seanchai

BUT ... you are a fanatic! You're no different from fanatical Muslims calling for the death of someone for speaking out about Mohammed or fanatical Christians calling for abortion doctors to be murdered. How can't you see the difference?

He HAS NOT leaks anything. Wikileaks has published documents that was given to them the same as many newspapers have. This has been told to you time and time again, yet you are refusing to listen. He is no different from any journalist and deserves the same protection.

What's a snake? Seriously, where do you come up with this stuff?

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Come on seanchai....you're way smarter that to throw that one out there...really ! Look...I understand the argument ( albeit disagree with it intensely) with respect to how some view what Assange did as a public service. We can debate that...but let's not suggest he's this Alfred E. Newman character what this dumb "What Me ?" look on his innocent face. He knew exactly what he was doing. I don't think the relationship between Assange and Manning has been fully explained, but in the US the guy that drives the getaway car in the course of a murder can be charged with murder. In this case...Assange drove the getaway car or perhaps a better way to put it is he facilitated the distribution and theft of what the government see's as their property. The Chicago Trib had a great piece on this today better explaining the unintended consequences. It's required reading for all Assange supportes . It is probably the best piece written out of the hundreds I've read.

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WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange is under pressure from the U.S. and other governments he embarrassed with his leaks of American diplomatic cables, but at least his "hactivist" disciples are behind him.

With Assange in custody in Great Britain, facing possible sex-crime charges in Sweden, his hactivists have launched cyber counterattacks against his perceived enemies, including MasterCard and Amazon, and now even mama grizzly Sarah Palin is claiming she's been hactivized.

It's the most bizarre story of the year, with enough chatter about Assange to fill a cheap novel, which surely is being written.

Naturally, the spy movie will follow, staring some guy with an accent, someone cool like Ralph Fiennes or perhaps Daniel Craig, who'll no doubt display his pecs on a beach in Mallorca as part of the heroic Assange biopic.
To some, Assange is a champion of the anti-American left. Meanwhile, many conservatives want to see him convicted of espionage and sent to prison or worse.

Though I'm a First Amendment absolutist, I wouldn't have published those stolen U.S. State Department cables. Still, he and others have the right to publish the news.

But Assange — or the newspapers that published the documents — don't have the right to pretend there are no real consequences.

"WikiLeaks has a four-year publishing history. During that time we have changed whole governments, but not a single person, as far as anyone's aware, has been harmed," Assange wrote in a hubris-filled op-ed piece Wednesday published in The Australian. "But the U.S. with Australian government connivance has killed thousands in the past few months alone."

It sounds very much like a big speech from a Hollywood movie. The big speech, usually delivered by some craggy-faced actor, involving the need for sunshine to illuminate government secrets otherwise hidden from a free people.

But once the big speech is over, and you're driving home with popcorn on your breath, you might be tempted to think logically about what happens next.

Sure, WikiLeaks and the newspapers have redacted some details, but the clues are there. It's safe to assume that all those documents on the Web site have been downloaded by the intelligence services of every country on Earth. Not just enemy or rogue states, but friendly nations as well.

That means Russia, China, France, Iran, Germany, Spain, South Africa, Israel and more — allies and antagonists — are studying the documents from WikiLeaks.

Their analysts aren't wringing their hands over whether they should be studying the secret cables. They're just studying. They have computers. And their analysts do what analysts do best — connect the dots.

And not only the salacious and entertaining big dots, like that Saudi prince and the prostitutes at his big bash, or the attributes of the curvy Ukrainian nurse for Moammar Gadhafi, or what Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton wanted her diplomats to do with DNA. There are also the smaller, seemingly insignificant dots.

Analysts aren't interested in the well-known names, the public names, the official names. They're interested in the names hidden between the lines. And they'll find them.

These smaller dots aren't famous. They're foreign nationals. They could be clerks and janitors and such. They have names and friends and families. And soon, one dot is tied to another dot is tied to another dot.

Once they're connected, a door is kicked in by the security forces. The dot is put into the back seat of the car, then driven to a place where sunshine does not illuminate anything. And nobody notifies Assange about what became of the dot or its family.

By then, they're not dots anymore. They're not abstractions. They're real people. Or they were. And that's something that Assange — who reasons like a child — pretends not to understand.

After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, our Democratic and Republican politicians argued that the U.S. had plenty of satellite surveillance and other technology, but what was required was more human intelligence, people listening to gossip, taking names and remembering faces.

America spent years building up such networks. The WikiLeak extravaganza is an invitation to other nations to grab a broom and sweep them up.

This debate isn't new. Since I'm writing for the Chicago Tribune, I should tell you what happened on June 7, 1942, during one of the most important battles in all of World War II, the Battle of Midway in the Pacific.

The Tribune under Col. Robert McCormick published a front-page story under this headline: "Navy Had Word of Jap Plan to Strike at Sea." It reported that the Navy had advance knowledge of the size and movement of the Japanese fleet.

The implication was clear: The Navy had cracked the Japanese code.

President Franklin Roosevelt, who loathed McCormick, wanted to try him for treason. Some historians have written that Japanese intelligence did not fully comprehend the impact of the Tribune story. The Navy clearly did not want a trial, for fear of drawing more attention to the issue.

So after five days of secret hearings, a federal grand jury in Chicago refused to indict.

Did McCormick have the right to publish? Of course he did. The First Amendment is quite clear.

But as a retired Army officer, he surely knew that such published information could put lives in jeopardy. He had a choice. And as a grownup, he must have understood the consequences.

And that's something Assange and his hactivists — prattling childishly about sunshine and how nobody's been hurt "as far as anyone is aware" — pretend not to understand.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

your a fag go suck your boyfriends dick asshole

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it should be "*you're a fag". and whats a dick asshole?

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

In this case...Assange drove the getaway car or perhaps a better way to put it is he facilitated the distribution and theft of what the government see's as their property.

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Weren't the Watergate tapes stolen? Should CBS have been prosecuted?

~BB~

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Originally Posted by dlbi22

it should be "*you're a fag". and whats a dick asshole?

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ask your boyfriend

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Originally Posted by dlbi22

it should be "*you're a fag". and whats a dick asshole?

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I would guess that it's the urethra.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

ask your boyfriend

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he doesn't know either...

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Originally Posted by dlbi22

he doesn't know either...

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roflmfao.ok fine so i left out the comma,shoot me damn it lol ps.nice comeback lol