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Wasn't a retarded question, just asked you a simple question, and no I couldn't do that. Some people do not see a dog life on par with a human life. So while you say he should have spent more time in prison, many people think the time that he did was good enough. I think he should have stayed a little bit longer, but not 5 or 10 years in prison. He served the time and now is out of prison. Can't really do that much about it unless he fucks up again.
I always have a good laugh when these "college educated" NFL and NBA thugs give an interview. They try to sound educated but come across as having no more than a 3rd grade education. They'd be criminals if they weren't athletic. Oh wait, most still are!!!
Vick will be back. Both on the field and in a cell, eventually!
nah i agree with you, did u notice how you phrased it, but shit, if i was a millionaire i wouldnt do something as horrible like that, he knew what he did was wronf, and as for the nfl, he wont catch up to the speed and skills of the game right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by bte
I didn't notice how I phrased it, but I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you or anything like that. I don't know why Vick decided to go into dog fighting. I mean it's not like he needed money, because he was a millionaire. I think that when people get rich, then they get bored. So they find outlets to lessen their boredom. Unfortunately, he didn't think he would get caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by celticgrafix
He was probably thinking, "Damn all this attention over some goddamn dogs."
Here's what you're missing- the fanatical animal rights groups, like PETA- think that pet ownership itself is morally wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by drmindbender03
They consider pets to be "comfort slaves" and want to make the practice 100% illegal.
You're failing to realize just how fanatical some of the animal rights activists really are.
To use a non-dog example, when it comes to exotic bird ownership, many states have laws against owning specific bird species. Several of the animal rights activists want to extend that to all pet-bird ownership, all the while knowing that when states enforce those laws- they do so not by "releasing them into the wild," but by killing contraband birds that they find.
Whenever exotic birds kept as pets escape, they usually die because the US is nothing like their natural habitats, but some species can survive in the US- and when they form colonies, even when they fail to pose any health risk or ecosystem risk (we're not talking invasive species here), the animal rights groups respond by lobbying states to go in and kill them "for not being native to the area."
Several states here will destroy any quaker parakeets they find- in the wild or in peoples' homes, a few states will do the same to nanday conures. PA just this year tried implementing a law to destroy all nanday conures in the state- the animal rights groups didn't complain, in fact some supported the measure.
There was actually a documentary about this, done a few years ago out in San Francisco IIRC. There is a colony of non-native conures there, living in part of the city. The animal rights groups kept trying to get the city to kill them all, even though they were posing no risk to the environment, people or economy. The only reason why the city failed to go along with it was because a conure pet-owner who lived in the city decided to make an independent film to document how threatless they were.
nah i didnt take it like that, but shit id find something fun to do too, but hold dogs heads under water, is wrong, im glad he got busted, spent enough time in jail, i dont think so, dudes get busted for less and spend more timeQuote:
Originally Posted by bte
The purpose of our legal system is for neither justice nor for rehabilitation. Hobbes wrote that the purpose of legal punishment was not justice or revenge, but for terror- that is essentially the way our system operates.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Nobody in the US-system wants to rehabilitate criminals. If anything they want to go in the opposite direction as far as they can. If it weren't for the way our public schooling system is run, I might go so far as to say that some of our so-called "rehabilitation" policies were taken from Les Miserables to prevent rehabilitation...
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jericho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtyNGuenZHY
It wouldn't surprise me if our fastfood is made out of sewer rats, stray cats, and ex-race horses.
Lol, he may not care about us, but back when things were good he bought my drinks the whole night one time at the club. Anybody that buys me henny and cokes all night is cool with meQuote:
Originally Posted by PSL4u
Faldur, unless you're a vegetarian/vegan you're full of shyt! People stuffing their face with steak, hamburgers, pork chops, fried chicken etc, coming from animals that were slaughtered and lost the right to live, for the personal enjoyment of their human palate. Yet, these same people want to be self-righteous about Michael Vick. This is the land where the stupid and easily manipulated dwell. I remember reading a funny story years ago about Ricki Lake (who was hosting her popular talk show at the time), who had gotten arrested at a PETA protest, yet was stuffing her fat face with a bologna sandwich while sitting in the holding cell. Vick's two friends really ran the dogfighting ring and performed most of the dirty work, such as killing the mangled up pitbulls who lost. Vick was the financier of the operation (Bad News Kennels) and allowed the fights to go on at his compound and did some dirty work I'll admit, but very little. Yet, these two coward azz friends of his, who were the REAL day to day perpetrators, were allowed to snitch and get a slap on the wrist, because the FEDS and PETA wanted to make Michael Vick the face of dogfighting and animal cruelty. Making a famous Black male athlete (especially post O.J Simpson) the face of anything negative, will always cause more anger and troop rallying, than some White athlete with the million dollar smile, like Tom Brady or the Manning Brothers. I read the online forums while the Vick scandal was going on and the racism was just sickening and omnipresent, especially on AOL and Youtube. So, for people to act like us Blacks are just playing the "race card" again, are naive and have their heads in the sand. Director Michael Moore has talked about the media and how they portray Black criminals versus White criminals on numerous occasions. He touched on this in "Bowling for Columbine". The Columbine shooter was just a disturbed and troubled youth, whereas young Black youth are called predators, savage and psychotic, when they shoot something up. This Craigslist killer guy, is also getting described as some preppy, educated guy who had deep mental healthy issues driving him to commit such heinous acts. PLEASE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Faldur
These fake azz animal rights people have no problem with the real perpetrators at Bad News Kennels getting off, for ratting out a celebrity, who could act as a rallying cry for their agenda. It was this whole "I can deal with letting the real animal killers off, because imprisoning and stripping Michael Vick of everything, for all the public to see, while be a bigger future deterrent to people who might think to dogfight in the future". While, I understand the politics of that move, don't hit me with the self-righteous bullshyt in the process, because if you're going to do that, then you should be calling for the heads of the two spineless jellyfish that got off. Do not get me wrong, Vick fucked up and deserved to be punished, but to act like he was the one and only person at fault is delusional. I went to college in VA and trust me, White boys in the backwoods are dogfighting like crazy, actually more than the Black guys are, but we've become the face of the sport.