Tyra Banks Casts a Tranny in New America's Next Top Model!

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08-17-2008
Solitary Brother

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I hate to break to SOME of you but she is from the ballroom.
Tyra has featured many ballroom figures and celebrities on her show.
Im glad because this sheds a positive light on the ballroom scene and its participants.
So many of them are widly creative and exciting people and they deserve a chance to shine.

Tyra Banks is pussy cunt out!!!!

Please don't ever speak in a discussion on boxing or mma ever again!

Ha Ha

Im so gay!!!!
08-17-2008
toolegitforu

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@Toolegit.

I hear what you are saying there. But I think you have it backwards. It's not that transsexuals are unwilling to immerse themselves in the craft of acting in the way that you said and work their way up. It is that a transsexual will likely not get the chance. There is a world of discrimination out there where people will acknowledge your excellence but still not give us a break basically because we are transsexuals.
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I would also like to second and third and fourth what has been said about this not being groundbreaking or new. Many many MTF transsexuals have been on TV in various ways. All that will happen to this new girl is what happened to Claudia, and others before her. The machine will use her for a ratings bonanza and the spit her out once ANTM has a higher profile.

I would like to hope for the best but I am a realist. I will just hope that she is able to parlay this exposure into some form of success in the rest of life.

You're right Brenda, but for the most part, trannies will always play trannies. They're looked at in the industry as a specialty. Meaning, they're only gonna play what they are for the most part. Can you see Denzel agree to play opposite a pre-op whose his wife? Never happen unless its in the script. Trannies in the industry will always be right on the same level with midgets. Actually, midgets work more, and I know a few who are pretty damm good actors. Can't say I've met any trannies that I would consider having legit talent. By that I mean classical theatre tranning along with television and film expertise.

Here's were you get me wrong. I think you have confused experience with talent. I am sure there are plenty of TS's who if given a shot at having the training and experience you speak of would be just as good.
Now when it comes to the matter and person at hand she has experience. The matter at hand is modeling not actin. Her experience is in the form of walking in balls. Which have to be if anything more pressure filled than a straight fashion show by FAR. I don't think she has ever been in print, but I know of, know and have met T-girls who have been legit print models. (Not like VS. no no... In like local level newspapers and catalogs. Yes yes.) Looking at her she looks quit capable of modeling anything an designer want's to come up with.

I just don't have high hopes for her success because when it comes to it Tyra may not be willing to put her name and money behind someone who's going to have a really tough time. Simply because there are so many closed minds in the world. Trust me I know how that stuff goes.

Never. Not capable. They have too many inner distractions mentally and emotionally that would not allow them to be good. This is why no top flight teacher would invest the time in trainning them. It would just be to difficult. Trannies have way too many inner distractions than the average person. So like I said, the only thing they will ever be able to do is play themselves.
08-17-2008
toolegitforu

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I know thats what you meant, and that why I said what I had to say. You're not gonna find a trannie(especially a young one) that is willing to immerse themselves in the craft. Train as an actor for several years. Do off bway and regional theatre along with indie films while they're waiting for a break. THATS WHAT YOU CALL A LEVEL OF SERIOUSNESS. So no, at the standards and the level that I work on, there will never be a trannie. Regardless of what this joke of an industry does or what show they put them on. Their work will never meet what I call a level of seriousness.

I wouldn't say never and i'm sure they are girls like jenninfer or alyssa or any girl here would kill to be a dedicated actor if they had the chance.Jen has her own show so she is a little ways there.

Please tell me you're joking again? What Jen does isn't acting. Some of you may think it is because entertainment will give anyone the label of actor once they appear on something. Trust me, what she does isn't legit acting. No where near it. Its basically on the same level as a well done youtube vid, which anyone can do with a decent camera.
08-17-2008
Legend

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Please tell me you're joking again? What Jen does isn't acting. Some of you may think it is because entertainment will give anyone the label of actor once they appear on something. Trust me, what she does isn't legit acting. No where near it. Its basically on the same level as a well done youtube vid, which anyone can do with a decent camera.

Nope i'm not she is in the entertainment genre and she is a entertainer which is in the same category as an actor.I don't think half the people has the people skills nor the courage to walk up to people like she does so i don't anyone could do it.

You seem to have some sort of inner anger against transsexuals because you use words like never and indicate that they have mental problem.Nothing is impossible once someone puts there mind to it,BELIEVE IT!
08-17-2008
Solitary Brother

Please dont compare women that have appeared on ANTM to girls like JJ.
Its not the same thing.....BY A LONG SHOT.
08-17-2008
toolegitforu

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Please tell me you're joking again? What Jen does isn't acting. Some of you may think it is because entertainment will give anyone the label of actor once they appear on something. Trust me, what she does isn't legit acting. No where near it. Its basically on the same level as a well done youtube vid, which anyone can do with a decent camera.

Nope i'm not she is in the entertainment genre and she is a entertainer which is in the same category as an actor.I don't think half the people has the people skills nor the courage to walk up to people like she does so i don't anyone could do it.

You seem to have some sort of inner anger against transsexuals because you use words like never and indicate that they have mental problem.Nothing is impossible once someone puts there mind to it,BELIEVE IT!

You're extremely delusional. I hope you know this. My comments aren't from anger, I work in the industry, and I teach the craft. I know whats needed to be a successful actor. When I say successful, I'm speaking about people like Denzel, Meryl Streep, Sir Ben Kingsley. No, a trannie will never reach that level of achievement because they do have mental and emotional baggage that gets in the way of the entire process. And they'll never be taken that seriously. You may think it helps, but it doesn't. It does just the opposite. And dude, yes, anyone can walk up to people with a video camera. Look at youtube, they already do it.
08-17-2008
Legend

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Please dont compare women that have appeared on ANTM to girls like JJ.
Its not the same thing.....BY A LONG SHOT.

You got that right i wouldn't compare her to girls who simply rely on standing in one place looking like an idiot to someone who relies on their people skills and intelligence.
08-17-2008
Solitary Brother

I didnt say Jen was not intelligent...she is.......shes just not model material thats all.
The fact that models who just "stand there" make tons of money speaks for itself.
08-17-2008
Legend

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Originally Posted by toolegitforu

/quote]You're extremely delusional. I hope you know this. My comments aren't from anger, I work in the industry, and I teach the craft. I know whats needed to be a successful actor. When I say successful, I'm speaking about people like Denzel, Meryl Streep, Sir Ben Kingsley. No, a trannie will never reach that level of achievement because they do have mental and emotional baggage that gets in the way of the entire process. And they'll never be taken that seriously. You may think it helps, but it doesn't. It does just the opposite. And dude, yes, anyone can walk up to people with a video camera. Look at youtube, they already do it.

There is no way a guy like you teaches the craft,you are the most discouraging teacher i've even seen.lol, talk about setting the bar high if you base someones level of success by those high level of actors and thier work you most think people like james franco and toby mcguire are utter failures.
08-17-2008
Legend

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

I didnt say Jen was not intelligent...she is.......shes just not model material thats all.
The fact that models who just "stand there" make tons of money speaks for itself.

Of course a guy like you is going to say that you most likely think wesley snipes or shemar moore is model material.

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