99% of ts's are hookers, NO! but 1 in 4 TS escorts HIV+

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Originally Posted by Danny partridge

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Originally Posted by worthy2

You have no knowledge of aids and the lies modern medicine tells you. Stop being a sheep and learn how to think for yourself. I understand 100 percent how the test works. It is a antibody test and you get a false positive from over 65 conditions such as a flu shot, being pregnant, drug addiction, common cold, alchoholic and more. Once you accept that aids is a lifestyle disease you will understand it more. Until then do your research for the next few months and then come back with an open mind.

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I hate to burst your delusional bubble, but the old test is an antibody test. The currently preferred test is an RNA test, which tests for the virus directly.


BTW This is another example of what happens when people get their news off the internet, where everyone's BS is considered equal. Check out http://www.virusmyth.com/ and take a look at who is really behind it.

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out of curiosity are you implying the website is legit or not?

Not to make the discussion longer or to support any of the sides but to those numbers you also have to add the transmission rate.... so theres the posibility of gettig an escort with hiv+, and then the possibility of the rubber breaking(if using one), and then the HIV transmission rate. From what i've read is higher in MtM sex, and varies from 1 out of 10 and 1 out of 1000.... its still scary to know that you flirt with those possibilities.

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Originally Posted by worthy2

danny p


If you believe that than I am happy for you. I deal with facts you deal with the corrupt words of modern medicine. I dont have to prove nothing to close minded robots who accept everything they told. All the money mainstream science has raised for aids and no progress. It's all corrupt so take it leave I am not trying convince narrow minded people.

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That's a nice dogmatic statement (look it up because I'm not sure they taught that one in the 3rd grade).

Fact: you stated that the test is only for antibodies.

Fact: I pointed out that this is the old test, a direct RNA test exists.

Fact: You simply make statements with nothing to back them up and then claim you are only dealing with facts, but offer no proof.

So, what "facts" are you "dealing" with? Your comments seem like the 12 year old which you probably are, devoid of any real facts and when proven wrong, making statements like "I dont have to prove nothing to close minded robots who accept everything they told". Well, what would you call a person who took what you had to say without anything to back it up with? I've got the CDC in my corner. Who's in yours?

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Originally Posted by worthy2

Wow you must feel really tough hurling insults behind the comfort of your computer. You are what a call a punk coward.

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Yes because a fist fight is what is needed in this situation. You shouldn't make such ridiculous statements if you don't want anyone to call you out based on what you have written. Calling AIDS a lifestyle disease and implying that it's deserved based on te lifestyle someone leads is in fact idiotic.

How much is it to cross your bridge?

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Originally Posted by goldensamba

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Originally Posted by worthy2

You have no knowledge of aids and the lies modern medicine tells you. Stop being a sheep and learn how to think for yourself. I understand 100 percent how the test works. It is a antibody test and you get a false positive from over 65 conditions such as a flu shot, being pregnant, drug addiction, common cold, alchoholic and more. Once you accept that aids is a lifestyle disease you will understand it more. Until then do your research for the next few months and then come back with an open mind.

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Wow, you are beyond ignorant. A lifestyle disease? Oddly enough heterosexual women are becoming the new high risk category. Are you saying these are all drug using sluts who deserve to have it?

You my man are an idiot?

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GS, see when you're quoting folks, try not to mess up the quote attributes so it suggests the ignorant, prejudiced BS uttered by nitwits like worthy2 was actually spoken by me, please.

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Originally Posted by Danny partridge

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Originally Posted by worthy2

You have no knowledge of aids and the lies modern medicine tells you. Stop being a sheep and learn how to think for yourself. I understand 100 percent how the test works. It is a antibody test and you get a false positive from over 65 conditions such as a flu shot, being pregnant, drug addiction, common cold, alchoholic and more. Once you accept that aids is a lifestyle disease you will understand it more. Until then do your research for the next few months and then come back with an open mind.

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I hate to burst your delusional bubble, but the old test is an antibody test. The currently preferred test is an RNA test, which tests for the virus directly.


BTW This is another example of what happens when people get their news off the internet, where everyone's BS is considered equal. Check out http://www.virusmyth.com/ and take a look at who is really behind it.

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Thank you Danny, a lonely voice of reason as ever. The problem is exacerbated because weak-minded fools in denial are prepared to believe any old BS that can be said to support their point of view, no matter how flimsy.

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Originally Posted by worthy2

I deal with facts

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No, you don't. You deal with hearsay, second-hand opinion and prejudice. I think we have established that you have not got a clue what you are talking about, so take some advice-- you have already demonstrated to anyone reading your BS that you are an idiot, so shut the fuck up before you prove it any more.

Tell me, do you believe in flying saucers and leprechauns as well?

Oh God! That's a lot of wrong information about HIV tests in this topic.
I'll try to help a little:

The tests that search for the presence of antibodies (ELISA and Western Blot) are older than the PCR based techniques, but are still the most used to confirm or rule out the presence of an infection. The Viral Load test is RT-PCR procedure, in which you have a Reverse Transcription of the HIV RNA followed by a PCR amplification of the cDNA. It is not used to confirm or rule out an infection, since it has a detection threshold of a few thousand viral copies (it is a semi-quantitative method). The gold standard for HIV detection is what can be called a qualitative PCR. In this method the DNA of lymphocytes is extracted and tested for the presence of the integrated HIV provirus (the provirus of a retrovirus virus is its "DNA form", after the reverse transcription and integration steps). This test is used only in cases where both ELISA and Western Blot tests are repeatedly negative but the patient has nonetheless convincing clinical signs of AIDS.
And by the way, when one gets a positive HIV result, it is a composite of at least two tests (usually an ELISA and a Western Blot. The former is very sensitive and the latter has a high specificity).

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Originally Posted by bh_boyy2

Oh God! That's a lot of wrong information about HIV tests in this topic.
I'll try to help a little:

The tests that search for the presence of antibodies (ELISA and Western Blot) are older than the PCR based techniques, but are still the most used to confirm or rule out the presence of an infection. The Viral Load test is RT-PCR procedure, in which you have a Reverse Transcription of the HIV RNA followed by a PCR amplification of the cDNA. It is not used to confirm or rule out an infection, since it has a detection threshold of a few thousand viral copies (it is a semi-quantitative method). The gold standard for HIV detection is what can be called a qualitative PCR. In this method the DNA of lymphocytes is extracted and tested for the presence of the integrated HIV provirus (the provirus of a retrovirus virus is its "DNA form", after the reverse transcription and integration steps). This test is used only in cases where both ELISA and Western Blot tests are repeatedly negative but the patient has nonetheless convincing clinical signs of AIDS.
And by the way, when one gets a positive HIV result, it is a composite of at least two tests (usually an ELISA and a Western Blot. The former is very sensitive and the latter has a high specificity).

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Thank you, bh_boyy2. Anything that can be done to prevent gullible people falling under the sway of the kind of ridiculous denial of well-stated and repeatedly proven truth that worth2 has been pandering, is very welcome.