Why are there SO FEW Getlemen Left?

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Originally Posted by Shrist

Oh be quiet you cunts!!

Guess what, humanity was as bad if not worse years ago- it is just these superficial behaviors you miss, then go back in time.

Allanah is a cunt!

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Enjoy your stay while u can.... BYE BYE!

Somebody in this post was talking about "good manners, morals, etiquette and breeding".

Breeding - I have none. I consider that I come from the gutter, that I am one of the bitter dregs of humanity.

Etiquette - the olde worlde form of "political correctness". I abhor being politically correct ( I prefer to call a spade a spade), therefore I have no etiquette. In French, "etiquette" means "label". I have no labels, they're too scared of me to stick to me.

Morals - I am proud to say that I have no morals whatever; I sleep well at night, whatever evil deeds or criminal acts (mainly reckless driving - the road is my racetrack and I will nerf you off if and when necessary) I have done during the day.

However, I always have good manners; a highwayman cannot exercise his profession without them. Unless of course the person I am addressing is an Officer of the Law, in which case I will take pride in being as discourteous and rude as humanly possible.

cheers

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Originally Posted by Matador

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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC

It seems like plain and simple manners amongst most men are gone these days...

Whatever happened to opening doors for a lady- pulling her chair out to sit- or standing when a lady leaves the table????

I'm lucky that my BF is one-

But I find bad manners amongst men rampant these days-

Especially YOUNG men.

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I've been a lurker here for quite some time. Some of the conversation here takes a rougher tone than I care for, but I always learn something here and I've enjoyed sitting on the sidewalk watching the parade pass by. And I mean that sincerely; I say it without any sarcasm.

My mom's family was from the South and she raised her boy to be a gentleman. I haven't been a boy in many years but her lessons have always stayed with me and they've never let me down. I don't think I've forgotten any of them; in addition to helping her with her coat and opening doors for her, here are other things a gentleman does when he's around a lady:

1. When a gentleman is out with a lady the only thing he has the right to expect is the pleasure of her company.

2. In a restaurant, the gentleman offers to seat the lady with her back to the wall. In this arrangement the lady can see everyone in the room and everyone in the room can see (and appreciate) the lady. This arrangement also helps the gentleman avoid distractions and it allows him to give his full attention to the lady.

3. A gentleman stands when a lady enters the room and he stands both when she leaves and returns to the dining table.

4. When a lady enters a room and there is not sufficient seating, a gentleman leaves the room to find her a new chair so she won't have to sit on a warm chair seat.

5. The gentleman's scent should not compete with the lady's perfume. A gentleman should smell clean and, if at all possible, should avoid wearing cologne or after shave.

6. During social introductions the gentleman is always introduced to the lady ("Mary, I'd like you to meet John."), not the other way around. This is not necessary during professional introductions.

7. During introductions a gentleman always offers his hand to another gentleman but he never shakes hands with a lady unless she first offers her hand to him.

8. A gentleman always finds a way to compliment the lady.

9. A gentleman doesn't use profanity around a lady.

10. A gentleman always removes his hat and sunglasses when conversing with a lady.

11. Good manners and acts of kindness are always appropriate.

12. The appropriate response to a compliment is "Thank you".

Then, too, I remember this. When I was about ten I was at a large family gathering: aunts, uncles, cousins. It was early autumn and one of the first chilly evenings of the season. My cousin had forgotten her jacket, she was shivering, and my mom told me to give her mine. At first I said no, but my mom insisted. "Give your jacket to your cousin." I said "But then I'll be cold." And my mom said "That's right, you'll be cold. But as a gentleman you'll have the satisfaction of knowing that the lady you're with is comfortable." And I gave her my jacket.

Allanah, your post hit home with me and I decided to make it my first on these boards. I hope no one minds.

But you're so right. Good manners are frequently lacking these days. And society is the poorer for that.

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God Bless you.



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Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS

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Originally Posted by Matador

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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC

It seems like plain and simple manners amongst most men are gone these days...

Whatever happened to opening doors for a lady- pulling her chair out to sit- or standing when a lady leaves the table????

I'm lucky that my BF is one-

But I find bad manners amongst men rampant these days-

Especially YOUNG men.

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I've been a lurker here for quite some time. Some of the conversation here takes a rougher tone than I care for, but I always learn something here and I've enjoyed sitting on the sidewalk watching the parade pass by. And I mean that sincerely; I say it without any sarcasm.

My mom's family was from the South and she raised her boy to be a gentleman. I haven't been a boy in many years but her lessons have always stayed with me and they've never let me down. I don't think I've forgotten any of them; in addition to helping her with her coat and opening doors for her, here are other things a gentleman does when he's around a lady:

1. When a gentleman is out with a lady the only thing he has the right to expect is the pleasure of her company.

2. In a restaurant, the gentleman offers to seat the lady with her back to the wall. In this arrangement the lady can see everyone in the room and everyone in the room can see (and appreciate) the lady. This arrangement also helps the gentleman avoid distractions and it allows him to give his full attention to the lady.

3. A gentleman stands when a lady enters the room and he stands both when she leaves and returns to the dining table.

4. When a lady enters a room and there is not sufficient seating, a gentleman leaves the room to find her a new chair so she won't have to sit on a warm chair seat.

5. The gentleman's scent should not compete with the lady's perfume. A gentleman should smell clean and, if at all possible, should avoid wearing cologne or after shave.

6. During social introductions the gentleman is always introduced to the lady ("Mary, I'd like you to meet John."), not the other way around. This is not necessary during professional introductions.

7. During introductions a gentleman always offers his hand to another gentleman but he never shakes hands with a lady unless she first offers her hand to him.

8. A gentleman always finds a way to compliment the lady.

9. A gentleman doesn't use profanity around a lady.

10. A gentleman always removes his hat and sunglasses when conversing with a lady.

11. Good manners and acts of kindness are always appropriate.

12. The appropriate response to a compliment is "Thank you".

Then, too, I remember this. When I was about ten I was at a large family gathering: aunts, uncles, cousins. It was early autumn and one of the first chilly evenings of the season. My cousin had forgotten her jacket, she was shivering, and my mom told me to give her mine. At first I said no, but my mom insisted. "Give your jacket to your cousin." I said "But then I'll be cold." And my mom said "That's right, you'll be cold. But as a gentleman you'll have the satisfaction of knowing that the lady you're with is comfortable." And I gave her my jacket.

Allanah, your post hit home with me and I decided to make it my first on these boards. I hope no one minds.

But you're so right. Good manners are frequently lacking these days. And society is the poorer for that.

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God Bless you.



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Standing ovation.

The old days of a proper courtship seem so romantic. I talk to my Great Aunt often and she tells me what it was like when she was younger. She is my grandmothers sister, my grandmother passed before I was born. She tells stories of how she and my grandmother would get all dressed up in ball gowns and go to dances in the city to meet men. Things were a lot different then they are today.

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Originally Posted by NYTSJulie

The old days of a proper courtship seem so romantic. I talk to my Great Aunt often and she tells me what it was like when she was younger. She is my grandmothers sister, my grandmother passed before I was born. She tells stories of how she and my grandmother would get all dressed up in ball gowns and go to dances in the city to meet men. Things were a lot different then they are today.

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Allow me to disagree. It's just the same old crap in a different wrapping. Romance? HAH! There's no such thing as romance...

cheers

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Originally Posted by Caff_Racer

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Originally Posted by NYTSJulie

The old days of a proper courtship seem so romantic. I talk to my Great Aunt often and she tells me what it was like when she was younger. She is my grandmothers sister, my grandmother passed before I was born. She tells stories of how she and my grandmother would get all dressed up in ball gowns and go to dances in the city to meet men. Things were a lot different then they are today.

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Allow me to disagree. It's just the same old crap in a different wrapping. Romance? HAH! There's no such thing as romance...

cheers

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Most men, all they want is to hit it. Thats when I say $$$$$$$$$$$$

Question:
Why there are so few gentlemen left.

Answer:
Because Allanah Starr turned them all into sissy bottom boys...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

NYTSJulie, I think you misunderstand me. I don't give a fiddler's fart whether I "hit it" or not; indeed I prefer not to "hit it" whenever possible.

All I'm saying is that romance, just like peace, freedom and democracy, is one of humanity's stupid little myths.

cheers

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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC

It seems like plain and simple manners amongst most men are gone these days...

Wha tever happened to opening doors for a lady- pulling her chair out to sit- or standing when a lady leaves the table????

I'm lucky that my BF is one-

But I find bad manners amongst men rampant these days-

Especially YOUNG men.

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The main reason is simple...BAD PARENTING. My parents would never let me get away with some of the crap these younger idiots get away with. Sitting while old ladies stand on trains/subways, not opening doors, wearing hats indoors or at the dinner table. Let's not even start on actual table manners.

That being said.....it seems that with a large number of women if you are a gentleman then you are tryi9ng to get in their pants and you get slated for it. I can see why a few guys just stop trying.