Re: Progressives Gone Wild
What is Islamophobia Bronco? Fear of people with a strong tendency toward suicide bombing and a long history of hating me? Laughable that they actually made a word out of it, of course people are afraid of those nut-jobs. It’s the media trying to paint a picture of a world where we shouldn’t be afraid of insane religious maniacs that’s the real gaslighting here. Again, Bronco, fact vs fiction. I believe in freedom of religion for all religions except the one that believes in wiping out all the other religions. We don’t need these assholes in our country at all, let alone agitating for tolerance in Congress. But that’s Minnesota for you - chill white guilt to the exact right temperature and you end up with a towel-head in Congress.
As for Asian hate crime, no, denied, it isn’t happening, Earth to Bronco, come in Bronco, we’re losing you pal...
Re: Progressives Gone Wild
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Nick Danger
From the conservative perspective, there's no such thing as "far right terrorism." I doubt you understand the full extent of the media-driven divide in this country now. A large percentage of conservatives do not consider liberals to be their fellow citizens with differing political views. They view THEM as terrorists.
That speaks volumes about the so-called conservative perspective these days. It appears the security agencies do not agree (see pages 17-19). https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...assessment.pdf
"Among domestic violent extremists (DVEs), racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists—specifically white supremacist extremists (WSEs)—will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland."
Re: Progressives Gone Wild
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filghy2
That speaks volumes about the so-called conservative perspective these days. It appears the security agencies do not agree (see pages 17-19).
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...assessment.pdf
"Among domestic violent extremists (DVEs), racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists—specifically white supremacist extremists (WSEs)—will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland."
The alphabet agencies are a free-for-all these days. Whether or not you're a terrorist, criminal, or seditionist depends entirely on the political affiliation of the goon helming the agency. Interesting choice to capitalize "Homeland," has kind of a Fourth Reich feel to it.
The full truth is that a lot of these white supremacist organizations are gaining traction from the behavior of the liberal media. "At least someone thinks white people are okay" goes the line of reasoning.
Here's an interesting thought experiment: What if I am a racist, but not a white supremacist? What if, for example, I'm a white person who thinks Mexican people are lower than me but Asian people are higher? As a white Asian supremacist, am I in a morally questionable position? Or is that an acceptable view? What if we discount the negative view of Mexicans altogether - I believe everyone is equal except for Asians, who are superior. I'm white. Am I deplorable?
Re: Progressives Gone Wild
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Originally Posted by
Nick Danger
The alphabet agencies are a free-for-all these days. Whether or not you're a terrorist, criminal, or seditionist depends entirely on the political affiliation of the goon helming the agency. Interesting choice to capitalize "Homeland," has kind of a Fourth Reich feel to it.
You're a person for whom the distinction between fact and fiction no longer exists. There's no other explanation for your views. Even Republicans who prosecute other Republicans for breaking the law are suspected of being secret Democrats or of being biased. I could provide you with a statute and you'd simply engage in hand-waving. Provide you with data and you'd immediately impeach the data by claiming someone biased compiled it. It reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in Casino who would collect on his bets when he won but not pay out the losers. The only information you assimilate is that which supports your priors. Anything inconvenient is waved away or quickly forgotten.
Are you deplorable? Worse than that. You're boring and limited. You've decided to fear what you don't understand, which is a great deal, while telling yourself you're a big alpha predator. Your next debate is with your mirror.
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broncofan
You're a person for whom the distinction between fact and fiction no longer exists. There's no other explanation for your views. Even Republicans who prosecute other Republicans for breaking the law are suspected of being secret Democrats or of being biased. I could provide you with a statute and you'd simply engage in hand-waving. Provide you with data and you'd immediately impeach the data by claiming someone biased compiled it. It reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in Casino who would collect on his bets when he won but not pay out the losers. The only information you assimilate is that which supports your priors. Anything inconvenient is waved away or quickly forgotten.
Are you deplorable? Worse than that. You're boring and limited. You've decided to fear what you don't understand, which is a great deal, while telling yourself you're a big alpha predator. Your next debate is with your mirror.
Well then I guess I only have one thing left to say to you Bronco. Peyton Manning was Denver's 2nd greatest quarterback. Craig Morton was #1.
Re: Progressives Gone Wild
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Originally Posted by
Nick Danger
The full truth is that a lot of these white supremacist organizations are gaining traction from the behavior of the liberal media. "At least someone thinks white people are okay" goes the line of reasoning.
Here's an interesting thought experiment: What if I am a racist, but not a white supremacist? What if, for example, I'm a white person who thinks Mexican people are lower than me but Asian people are higher? As a white Asian supremacist, am I in a morally questionable position? Or is that an acceptable view? What if we discount the negative view of Mexicans altogether - I believe everyone is equal except for Asians, who are superior. I'm white. Am I deplorable?
Some people have said unkind things about people like me. This leaves me no choice but to become a fascist. Is that your 'reasoning'?
What you are is an imbecile who is incapable of seeing people unlike you as anything other than crude stereotypes.
Re: Progressives Gone Wild
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broncofan
Are you deplorable? Worse than that. You're boring and limited. You've decided to fear what you don't understand, which is a great deal, while telling yourself you're a big alpha predator. Your next debate is with your mirror.
Something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YSm-K5_zZo
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filghy2
Some people have said unkind things about people like me. This leaves me no choice but to become a fascist. Is that your 'reasoning'?
What you are is an imbecile who is incapable of seeing people unlike you as anything other than crude stereotypes.
Flighty, an imbecile has an IQ of 26-50. Could I make sentences if I were an imbecile? I assure you my IQ is nearly double that of an imbecile.
As happens more and more frequently, I'll take the opportunity of pointing out your reading comprehension fail on the matter of MY reasoning. I said that would be the reasoning of those gravitating toward white supremacy these days. I'm not a white supremacist. If anything I'm a Jewish supremacist, those guys have seriously got their shit together.
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filghy2
Something like this?
I'm coming for you, Flighty. I done kilt me two liberals on this board. Kilt just about everything that whines or agitates at one time or another. And now I'm coming for you, Flighty. For what you did to Ned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfOfV7U35PU
Re: Progressives Gone Wild
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Originally Posted by
Nick Danger
Flighty, an imbecile has an IQ of 26-50. Could I make sentences if I were an imbecile? I assure you my IQ is nearly double that of an imbecile.
As happens more and more frequently, I'll take the opportunity of pointing out your reading comprehension fail on the matter of MY reasoning. I said that would be the reasoning of those gravitating toward white supremacy these days. I'm not a white supremacist. If anything I'm a Jewish supremacist, those guys have seriously got their shit together.
I haven't met a Jew or gentile who is intelligent enough to respond to the compliment of being labeled a model minority. Asians will sometimes see it as well but it's a trap. You encourage resentment of the group you set up as a model because they are being used to make negative comparisons of other groups. You invite negative comments to counter your compliments because fairness and reciprocity demand that with compliments comes acceptance of criticism. But the criticism would be in the form of attributing to us characteristics as a group, just as the compliments are, and so both must be illegitimate.
I did a project in college on iq testing and frequently heard white supremacists eager to label some groups as inferior say that they weren't using psychometrics for that purpose because they believe Asians are more intelligent. But when I dug into the comments, they would then argue that Asians excelled at spatial abilities but not verbal, or that Asians had higher average intelligence but a lower standard deviation of intelligence so it was really the white man who produced more geniuses (and more idiots the reasoning should in fairness then argue). When they discussed Ashkenazi Jews, they would say Jews possess great verbal ability, which enables them to swindle or manipulate, and while solid in math, are weak in spatial reasoning which must account for whatever deficits they want to point out in their quest for knowledge.
The use of the model minority is really an attempt to denigrate and essentialize people while pretending to offer a concession to prove one's objectivity.
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broncofan
I haven't met a Jew or gentile who is intelligent enough to respond to the compliment of being labeled a model minority. Asians will sometimes see it as well but it's a trap. You encourage resentment of the group you set up as a model because they are being used to make negative comparisons of other groups. You invite negative comments to counter your compliments because fairness and reciprocity demand that with compliments comes acceptance of criticism. But the criticism would be in the form of attributing to us characteristics as a group, just as the compliments are, and so both must be illegitimate.
I did a project in college on iq testing and frequently heard white supremacists eager to label some groups as inferior say that they weren't using psychometrics for that purpose because they believe Asians are more intelligent. But when I dug into the comments, they would then argue that Asians excelled at spatial abilities but not verbal, or that Asians had higher average intelligence but a lower standard deviation of intelligence so it was really the white man who produced more geniuses (and more idiots the reasoning should in fairness then argue). When they discussed Ashkenazi Jews, they would say Jews possess great verbal ability, which enables them to swindle or manipulate, and while solid in math, are weak in spatial reasoning which must account for whatever deficits they want to point out in their quest for knowledge.
The use of the model minority is really an attempt to denigrate and essentialize people while pretending to offer a concession to prove one's objectivity.
Thought I'd lost you, Bronco. Looks like my victory lap was premature. Can't give back the champagne now though.
That's a pretty serious comment so I will reply in all seriousness.
A big problem with the liberal approach to racism is the language. "White Supremacy" isn't even a real thing in suburban America. Neither is "White Privilege." I mean, these things are real to poor people - a lot of whom are not white (but a lot of whom are). Poor people will buy into any reason they are poor besides the fact that they suck at life. They look around, see a lot of white people doing very well in a country built by and for white people, and they are perfect little puppets for anyone who wants to dangle the strings of racism in an effort to control the political narrative.
Problem is none of it is real, Bronco. It's illusion. You look at any one of these videos of police brutality toward blacks that has the liberal media so "outraged," and in every one, it's the perpetrator's fault. Every time. They're reaching for weapons. They're trying to run over the police with their cars. They're refusing lawful orders. Even George Floyd was in the middle of a couple of felonies, a misdemeanor, and resisting arrest. He resisted the wrong asshole that day, but again, we have no evidence, not even empirical evidence, that Derek Chauvin was a racist or that his actions were racially motivated. He was an asshole cop and George Floyd happened to be black, that's what we know.
America has a history of racism. So does every other fucking country on the planet. You want to talk about racist countries, let's talk about Israel. Japan, China, both Koreas, every Middle Eastern country, so racist and so completely uncriticized for it.
Meanwhile in America, we have every race, they can all vote, they are all legally protected against discrimination, they are all economically-advantaged via affirmative action programs...sorry, but American racism is an absolute media hoax sponsored by, you guessed it, the Democratic National Committee - a committee that has no other purpose than to promote racism and division, to save itself from political irrelevance.
Your statement about using model minorities as some kind of virtue-signaling device touches a nerve. No, wrong, I don't care to virtue-signal, more like just the opposite - I'd rather people assume I'm a tyrannical asshole and then be pleasantly surprised that I'm not than vice versa. But this is a symptom of the disease of identity politics - overthinking the problem.
To me there's no problem at all. A disproportionately large percentage of the black population need to get their shit together, that's the core truth behind all the bullshit. We can address this problem via education, motivation, or by force, it's strictly up to each individual. Blacks have really missed an opportunity here to get middle-class whites firmly in their corner, I didn't know a single person who wasn't pretty upset by the George Floyd incident. But "upset" quickly turned to "indifferent" when we were confronted by riots, threats, and false accusations. The truth and the narrative simply don't match, Bronco. I've practically begged you cats to show me some real examples of institutional racism in the USA and of course, there's nothing. Not sure why you won't just admit it.
