I'm glad I don't live in the weird world you seem to have invented. I really can't be arsed to even start to correct your misunderstanding of Government debt and bonds, what they actually mean and how they work in the real world.
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I'm glad I don't live in the weird world you seem to have invented. I really can't be arsed to even start to correct your misunderstanding of Government debt and bonds, what they actually mean and how they work in the real world.
It also helps you to avoid debating -indeed as someone who voted for it, taking responsibility for Brexit's broken dreams.
So you have nothing to say about the Northern Ireland Protocol or anything else in the agreement Boris Johnson's Government signed with the EU that is proving in so many instances to contradict the Law -not least, in this case, the Anglo-Irish Agreement that ended the Troubles.
Nothing to say abuout the tsunamic of paperwork and the costs that have inundated small and medium sized businesses with no regard for Boris Johnson's claim that once out of the EU British business would not be burdened by regulations.
You can avoid dealing with the contradiction between free enterprise and the State that makes Brexit a Utopian fantasy, just as you can't be arsed to tell is why the British State exists, let alone why it is in debt, as Libertarians like Ms Truss and Mr Raab can pen any amount of pseudo-political drivel for Britannia Unchained they care to, then sit in Boris Johnson's Cabinet plucking 'Bonds' from the Magic Money Tree, spending other people's money to compensate for markets that have failed or watch the UK become a basket case economy like Zimbabwe under Robert Mugababy.
I have not invented the crisis in Norther Ireland, nor have I invented the statistics on the loss of trade that I cited in my previous post. I have not invented the lies that Johnson and Gove and the rest of them told, about the money the UK would save when it left the EU, about the return of a Sovereignty whose extent only exists in the airy heads of Brexit supporters, just as I did not invent the Racism which is integrated into the Brexit anti-foreigner narrative, even as today the same people beg for those foreigners to come and save their bacon and egg breakfasts, or Wetherspoon pubs.
What a strange world you have invented, where Brexit is done, and all is right with the world, or the UK, or the City of London, or maybe just your bedroom. Based on what little you have said on the subject, can anyone benefit from your insight into Brexit? I am sure many readers of these posts who don't comment on them, woud like to know.
You show the level of accuracy of your posts by assuming I voted for it.
I really have no idea why you want to post your drivel here. It adds nothing to anything.
I'm sure there's some other forum for people who want to do nothing but complain about how wrong everything is.
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The effects of Brexit will last for sometime. to suggest otherwise is naive.Quote:
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Let me refresh your memory.Quote:
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Like this, you mean? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar%27s_PokerQuote:
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You don't seem to be a very good liar, so I guess you haven't made it to "big swinging dick" yet.
The point was I didn't vote for "broken dreams." Apologies if that wasn't clear of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
I just feel so sorry for the people who just can't get over the fact that the electorate voted a different way to the way they would have preferred. They want to prove everything is so awful due to that. Except it isn't. We are lucky to live in one of the wealthiest and most prosperous nations on earth.
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It is not about being unable to accept the vote to Leave, but the simple fact that the advocates of Leave had no real plan to implement the decision because they did not expect Leave to win the Referendum.
From that moment on, the UK Government was incapable of matching the experienced negtiators of the EU for whom the integrity of the Single Market and the Customs Union was, and remains too important to to be amended just to suit the UK, and because the UK either had no idea what it wanted, or wanted the impossible from the EU.
As a result the various trade agreements that were put to Parliament, by Theresa May and then Boris Johson, put the UK in a weak position, as evidenced by the Northern Ireland Protocol, on which you have nothing to say. But again, it also exposes to view the fact that there was always going to be a conflict between the UK leaving the Customs Union of the UK, and the Anglo-Irish Agreement which guarantees there will be no 'hard border' between the Republic and the UK. And here we are, five years later, and the problem has not been resolved, while the DUP which had such influence on the Govt of Theresa May, is now a party of marginal importance yet capable of ending the Power Sharing agreement crucial to the peace and prosperity of the provnce, yet aware of its vulnerability inside Northern Ireland, but where enough people who claim to be 'Unionists' may not yet be ready to accept what for many outside is the inevitable re-unification of Ireland.
So the basis of my complaint is not just the negative effects of Brexit provided by British businesses, many of whom supported the Leave campaign, but that the management of Brexit has been so poor. The internal divisions in the Conservative Party led to the most extraordinary scenes of failure by the Govt to pass its own laws, scuppered by its own MPs, who then chose a new leader whose first act was to purge that same party of any MP who did not share his vision, the only difference between Johnson and Stalin being the lack of a Gulag Archipelago in the UK.
On the other side of the House, the Labour Party then and now, has absolutely no idea what to do with Brexit, as it has ruled out the most logical solution which is to seek the UKs re-entry into the Single Market and the Customs Union.
The anger that I personally feel relates to the removal of my freedom, and the freedom of every other UK citizen that was part of the Single Market. We rarely, if ever have a debate on how our freedom has been eroded by Boris Johnson's vision, but then we have avoided the elephant in the room, which is the loathing of foreigners that was fundamental for those who voted Leave, who complained there were too many migrants/immigrants in the country, regardless of the jobs they were doing.
At a day-to-day level it has been responsible for the labour shortages in Care Homes, the long-short haul road haulage business, and the food processing/picking businesses, but at a longer-term or broader level, it has been an extension of a long-established campaign by the Neo-Nazi and New Wave Fascists who subscribe to forms of 'race replacement' ideas that claim immigration has, is, and will destroy the British in Britain, as currently exhibited by the TV programmes which 'must' contain references to being queer, slavery, exploitation, and so on, and thus feature actors, comedians and presenters who are non-White, Gay, probably Muslim and 'hate' the Tories.
Brexit is about so much more than Govt bonds, global markets, freedom from EU institutions and regulations, and is also about how 'we' view the UK now and in the years to come. And so far the tilt towards the New Wave Fascism that has infected the US, Hungary, Poland and Russia, that has been the main event in Turkey since 1923, and Israel since 1977, is trying to establish itself in the UK, with Nigel Farage its most obvious representative.
But consider too, how it is that when Edward Heath was Conservative PM in 1970-73, he expelled Enoch Powell from his party, yet under Boris Johnson, we have a Home Office whose 'send the Blacks Back' policy is almost a carbon copy of the policy of the neo-Nazi National Front that Heath was genuinely opposed to. And it is inconceivable that Heath would ever have referred to Black people as 'Picaninnies' with 'Watermeon smiles' as Boris Johnson has.
Brexit is not over, it has barely got started, and I am genuinely worried at the trends in politics that I never thought I would have to confront again. I suggest what strikes me as your complacency, or indifference is part of the permissive environment which allows the extremists to enter the building, and then tear it down because nobody is there to stop them.
If you really wanted to ignore someone, wouldn't it be best to not continually respond to their posts?