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Originally Posted by
GrimFusion
I'm more content just calling it anal sex. I don't need to be reminded that one of my sexual interests is named after a city in ancient Canaan and the basis of a fucked up set of Bible passages that speak against the act of sodomy as a sin. It's kinda a buzz kill.
Actually, sodomy includes oral sex. It's not limited to anal sex. Look it up.
You have to understand; the Bible made it very clear that any sex which wasn't for procreative purposes was a sin. The Bible introduced the concept of thought crimes. That's what coveting is. So what goes through your head is included in the Lord's list of no-nos. And it's the Lord who sanctified the bond between man and woman, and allowed them that small window of opportunity to experience lust. Well, actually enjoying sex is a no-no too, even between husband and wife. God's a stickler.
When would you say you could distinguish men from women, boys from girls, daddy from mommy, brother from sister, etc? I think it's safe to say that even a small child has their working reference points for the concept of binary genders. So, at some point during the socialization process, you learn to go through life with other clothed human being and you have your checklist for boy or girl, and man or woman. Everyone knows when they see another human being what their perception of that person's gender is. Even on an subconscious level, and even if you're confused, you assign them a gender. And that's all that gender is. Forget about genitals. You have a concept of gender that your brain uses socially, and it functions autonomously from your libido. Pre-op transsexuals turn all of your preconceived notions about gender out the window. We're here to re-write the rule book, or simply throw it out and start fucking you without one. If you're a man, and you perceive me as a woman, and if I see myself as a woman, and the world perceives me as a woman; the sex we're having is hetero sex. We're just not having sex with the goal of being fruitful and multiplying.
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If you're a man, and you perceive me as a woman, and if I see myself as a woman, and the world perceives me as a woman; the sex we're having is hetero sex. We're just not having sex with the goal of being fruitful and multiplying.
Not quite, the perception between the two people is that the relationship is heterosexual, because one identifies as a woman and one identifies as a man, but this goes back to the difference between perception vs. reality.
By technically adhering to the strictest definition of the words, it would be homosexual sex. This in itself is the biggest conundrum for the community, you didn't turn anything upside down on it's head, everything we know about genders still applies. If you're seen as a woman you'll be treated as such, if you're seen as a man you'll be treated as such. This is what most non-passable tgirls deal with, because the perception of self is constantly being challenged by the outside world, because the outside world is beating you over the head with what they see, their physical reality, that you are in a man's body. This will never change though, because the further we explore the psychology of mankind the more we realize how much of a factor the first 10 million years of our lives had on us as a species. It is like children who come from abused homes, they never heal, only cope with early scars.
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Originally Posted by
mathematics1900
Not quite, the perception between the two people is that the relationship is heterosexual, because one identifies as a woman and one identifies as a man, but this goes back to the difference between perception vs. reality.
By technically adhering to the strictest definition of the words, it would be homosexual sex. This in itself is the biggest conundrum for the community, you didn't turn anything upside down on it's head, everything we know about genders still applies. If you're seen as a woman you'll be treated as such, if you're seen as a man you'll be treated as such. This is what most non-passable tgirls deal with, because the perception of self is constantly being challenged by the outside world, because the outside world is beating you over the head with what they see, their physical reality, that you are in a man's body. This will never change though, because the further we explore the psychology of mankind the more we realize how much of a factor the first 10 million years of our lives had on us as a species. It is like children who come from abused homes, they never heal, only cope with early scars.
But the man's libido is registering me as female. The libido is biological. I'm not confused about the internal plumbing. But if and when I confirm that I have Klinefelter's Syndrome, I'd argue that my chromosomes make binary sexuality categories a moot subject with me.
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Ancient Roman religion supported sexuality as an aspect of prosperity for the state, and individuals might turn to private religious practice or "magic" for improving their erotic lives or reproductive health. Prostitution was legal, public, and widespread. "Pornographic" paintings were featured among the art collections in respectable upperclass households. It was considered natural and unremarkable for adult males to be sexually attracted to teen-aged youths of both sexes, and pederasty was condoned as long as the younger partner was not a freeborn Roman. "Homosexual" and "heterosexual" did not form the primary dichotomy of Roman thinking about sexuality, and no Latin words for these concepts exist. No moral censure was directed at the adult male who enjoyed sex acts with either women or males of inferior status, as long as his behaviors revealed no weaknesses or excesses, nor infringed on the rights and prerogatives of his male peers. While perceived effeminacy was denounced, sex in moderation with male prostitutes or slaves was not regarded as improper or vitiating to masculinity, if the male citizen took the active and not the receptive role. Hypersexuality, however, was condemned morally and medically in both men and women. -Wikipedia
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Originally Posted by
buttslinger
While perceived effeminacy was denounced, sex in moderation with male prostitutes or slaves was not regarded as improper or vitiating to masculinity, if the male citizen took the active and not the receptive role.
This is a very important part....not regarded as vitiating to masculinity if the male takes the active role....i totally agree....
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Originally Posted by
pimpdog
About the guys not sticking around, alot of girls look ALOT less passable after a guy cums, just the honest truth.
Well that's down to the 'Panda effect:
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Its ironic that most girls in the industry use their cock to be able to pay for surgery...
And the men think they can build their sexual identity around an illusion lol
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Are we really bringing religion into this?
Religion is a bunch of hoopla...
Jesus/Mary etc is based on The Egyptian Sun God Same story...
The bible was written to control people at that time...
To scare them into goodness
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Originally Posted by
KellyShore
Are we really bringing religion into this?
Religion is a bunch of hoopla...
Jesus/Mary etc is based on The Egyptian Sun God Same story...
The bible was written to control people at that time...
To scare them into goodness
Huh?
Okay I understand not everyone is in religion or does not believe in god...
But Jesus and Mother mary were actual people with actual evidence that they did exist....
What happened surrounding the stories may have been religious but regardless the people in the bible such as john the baptist, jesus, mary magdalene, Mother mary etc were all real.... Documented and proven.
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Originally Posted by
EvonRose
Huh?
Okay I understand not everyone is in religion or does not believe in god...
But Jesus and Mother mary were actual people with actual evidence that they did exist....
What happened surrounding the stories may have been religious but regardless the people in the bible such as john the baptist, jesus, mary magdalene, Mother mary etc were all real.... Documented and proven.
Really give us that evidence Evon???
The town doesn't even exsist...
Watch Religiousless by Bill Mahr...
Or Zeitgeist
Then come back and argue :)