Black Tranny Porn..

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Originally Posted by mikejones

It is a question of manners and civility. If you don't like something then just don't pay for it and move on. This happens everyday in life and is usually handled in a way that avoids drama and negativity.

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That's not what happens in everyday life. People criticize products in hopes that the producers will improve the overall quality. If the company doesn't improve then people will move on.

There is nothing wrong with criticizing a company. You need to remember that this is porn. Porn is all about sexual attraction. Thus, the door is open for people to criticize pornstars because they are sex models. Pornstars are often criticized on their performances or looks.

Secondly it is not rude to say that some of these black "tgirls" are men. Some of them are crossdressers. Crossdressers are not transsexuals. They are men in wig. People are paying to see transsexuals, not men.

Most importantly you don't under the issue in this topic. People are upset that many passable tgirls from other races are shown way more often than passable and attractive black tgirls. Companies are shooting feminine white TS women. However, some companies shot many masculine black ts women. There are some feminine black ts women in porn. However, the vast majority are very masculine because they are paid crossdressers.

It is fair to criticize the companies and push them for better product, but you need to do in a more tactful way that does not criticize the individual people. Your message will be stronger if you can do this.

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Originally Posted by mikejones

It is fair to criticize the companies and push them for better product, but you need to do in a more tactful way that does not criticize the individual people. Your message will be stronger if you can do this.

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Nobody in this thread has criticized the pornstars. SMH

Franklin, I'm getting so bored and tired of your ignorance. You have an attitude that exactly what YOU like in porn, is how YOU expect everyone else to be - and you've been proven wrong multiple times.

I've glanced over this whole thread and it's the same shit that I've answered for 15+ yrs.

This is how
a) we choose models based on our best information we have on them across all the sites. We choose models only if we think they can be sellable and make us our money back on them. Sometimes this doesn't work but over 90% of the time they do.

b) attactiveness is different for many different people and not everyone is attracted to what societies expectation of "attractiveness" is all about but in sexual attraction and especially anonymous sexual attraction, that spectrum is even wider.

c) so what if YOU don't find someone attractive, we've put those models up because generally other PAYING customers do. We have some incredibly attractive models (attractive to me) of all races and some whom I don't think as so attractive. Many of the most popular models rated on the sites or talked about on HA, wouldn't get that highly rated should you see them on street but their sex appeal is what attracts people to them via their phots.

d) we're a business - we shoot models to make money and clearly, it's working and looks like it will for a long time. See point b and point e below.

e) shut the fuck up - you know nothing - you think you do but you don't.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Why hasn't Ashley Hunter appeared on a Grooby site? Is she disinterested?

The America black T-Girl sites especially BTG mostly feature unattractive masculine black T-Girls. Most black T-Girls do not look like Nody Nadia, Jenna Belle, or Natassia Dreams. The majority of them are crossdressers or dress for pay actors.

TS porn companies generally shot the most passable White America, Latina, and Asian T-Girls. Kimber James, Ryder Monroe, Jesse, Morgan Bailey, Sarina Valentina, Hazel Tucker, etc are just a few of the hot white women shot. We RARELY if NEVER see a non-passable American Asian T-Girl. We see girls like Venus and Eva.

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Ashley Hunter HAS appeared on Black Tgirls - why with all the negativity you fuckwit.

"The America black T-Girl sites especially BTG mostly feature unattractive masculine black T-Girls. "
Keep it up and you'll find yet another forum that you'll be taking a hiatus from.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Franklin, I'm getting so bored and tired of your ignorance. You have an attitude that exactly what YOU like in porn, is how YOU expect everyone else to be - and you've been proven wrong multiple times.

I've glanced over this whole thread and it's the same shit that I've answered for 15+ yrs.

This is how
a) we choose models based on our best information we have on them across all the sites. We choose models only if we think they can be sellable and make us our money back on them. Sometimes this doesn't work but over 90% of the time they do.

b) attactiveness is different for many different people and not everyone is attracted to what societies expectation of "attractiveness" is all about but in sexual attraction and especially anonymous sexual attraction, that spectrum is even wider.

c) so what if YOU don't find someone attractive, we've put those models up because generally other PAYING customers do. We have some incredibly attractive models (attractive to me) of all races and some whom I don't think as so attractive. Many of the most popular models rated on the sites or talked about on HA, wouldn't get that highly rated should you see them on street but their sex appeal is what attracts people to them via their phots.

d) we're a business - we shoot models to make money and clearly, it's working and looks like it will for a long time. See point b and point e below.

e) shut the fuck up - you know nothing - you think you do but you don't.

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Right! Why do so many members on this board think 99% of the black chicks on your site are unattractive? People clearly join to see girls like Nody Nadia, Natassia Dreams, Jenna Bell, etc.

You can't be so blind that you honestly believe that people join the site for all of the girls? Attractiveness can be subjective. However, the vast majority of people in this topic CLEARLY DISAGREE with YOUR standards that you're trying to force down your members' throats!

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Ashley Hunter HAS appeared on Black Tgirls - why with all the negativity you fuckwit.

"The America black T-Girl sites especially BTG mostly feature unattractive masculine black T-Girls. "
Keep it up and you'll find yet another forum that you'll be taking a hiatus from.

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That's funny. Nearly every other guy in this thread said the same thing! Yet, you didn't threaten to ban them! Looking for a scapegoat?

Now you're insulting a PAYING customer. Ha! It just goes to show that producers, directors, and pornstars have no respect for the people who HELP them make a living.

Your attitude is why Grooby will NEVER improve its quality of models and videos. You always think that your opinion is the only opinion that matters. You don't think your customers should have a voice and should pay up because Grooby is one of the few companies that shoot TS porn.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

your not going to call jada pinkett or halle berry who are very toned woman unattractive or masculine so why have different standards for ts woman

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Jada Pinkett looks super masculine. I've always said that she looked better before mainstream success as she was more feminine. Yea our women are naturally more fit but where does that mean having masculine features?

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Right! Why do so many members on this board think 99% of the black chicks on your site are unattractive? People clearly join to see girls like Nody Nadia, Natassia Dreams, Jenna Bell, etc.

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99%? Where did you pull that stat? Your ass is the odds on favorite.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

You can't be so blind that you honestly believe that people join the site for all of the girls? Attractiveness can be subjective. However, the vast majority of people in this topic CLEARLY DISAGREE with YOUR standards that you're trying to force down your members' throats!

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No a few agreed with you but I have to say majority ignored you because this was just another immature rant with no fact, just opinions. Not saying every girl on BTG is a knockout, that would be an overstatement, they have put out some of the best T-girls over all not just Black T-girls. To be far they also have put out some real unattractive girls too, but some of them did blossom into attractive girls.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

That's funny. Nearly every other guy in this thread said the same thing! Yet, you didn't threaten to ban them! Looking for a scapegoat?

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No most of the other guys had the common sense to STFU, but not you, like the energizer bunny you keep going and going. Beating the dead horse. :deadhorse

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Now you're insulting a PAYING customer. Ha! It just goes to show that producers, directors, and pornstars have no respect for the people who HELP them make a living.

Your attitude is why Grooby will NEVER improve its quality of models and videos. You always think that your opinion is the only opinion that matters. You don't think your customers should have a voice and should pay up because Grooby is one of the few companies that shoot TS porn.

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I didn't see it as he was insulting a paying customer, he was insulting an abusive customer that thinks because he paid $3 for a trial membership it gives them the right to insult the site and everyone that enjoys it. What one person thinks is ugly and gross others will find to be a gorgeous girl.
I like a swimmer's build, a big B small C cup natural breast, you may like a silicone injected barbie doll. Who is to say either is wrong?

Now give us a break and go Jerk off to your favorite tranny site, realease the stress.

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Originally Posted by Toadily

99%? Where did you pull that stat? Your ass is the odds on favorite.



No a few agreed with you but I have to say majority ignored you because this was just another immature rant with no fact, just opinions. Not saying every girl on BTG is a knockout, that would be an overstatement, they have put out some of the best T-girls over all not just Black T-girls. To be far they also have put out some real unattractive girls too, but some of them did blossom into attractive girls.





No most of the other guys had the common sense to STFU, but not you, like the energizer bunny you keep going and going. Beating the dead horse. :deadhorse



I didn't see it as he was insulting a paying customer, he was insulting an abusive customer that thinks because he paid $3 for a trial membership it gives them the right to insult the site and everyone that enjoys it. What one person thinks is ugly and gross others will find to be a gorgeous girl.
I like a swimmer's build, a big B small C cup natural breast, you may like a silicone injected barbie doll. Who is to say either is wrong?

Now give us a break and go Jerk off to your favorite tranny site, realease the stress.

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Let me educate you.

You haven't been a member on this board for 6 months. You don't know what the majority of people on this board thinks. I know for a fact that a vast majority of porn customers on this board are not pleased with the model quality on BTG.

Who are these girls you are taking about? Yes, some of the models on the site are girls. Some of the models are male crossdressers. I'm not calling them crossdressers because of their physical appearances. Members on this board call them crossdressers because Grooby has confirmed in this thread that some of these models are simiply crossdressers. If you're going to make a TS site then you need to shoot TS women, not men in wigs.

He was insulting a paying customer. I have been a paying customer for many years. Grooby doesn't offer trail memberships. I've always paid for FULL memberships.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Right! Why do so many members on this board think 99% of the black chicks on your site are unattractive?

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1. Who cares what the membes of this board think, I only care what the majority of paying members think.
2. That statistic is total bullshit.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

You can't be so blind that you honestly believe that people join the site for all of the girls? Attractiveness can be subjective. However, the vast majority of people in this topic CLEARLY DISAGREE with YOUR standards that you're trying to force down your members' throats!

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You really are a fucking dimwit. I never said people join the site for all the girls - I've never joined a site for all the girls, I join a site to see the girls I want to see. Clearly people ARE joining the site and in their 1000's a month (including yourself). I don't force anything down a members throat and it has nothing to do with "my standards", I've explained how we shoot, we please a lot of people and if they don't like it - they can cancel and choose not to be a member. What a stupid and ignorant thing to say - as usual.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

That's funny. Nearly every other guy in this thread said the same thing! Yet, you didn't threaten to ban them! Looking for a scapegoat?

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One or two guys - and you've been given a voice and been answered publically many, many times - yet you don't listen and I'm sick and tired of you.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Now you're insulting a PAYING customer. Ha! It just goes to show that producers, directors, and pornstars have no respect for the people who HELP them make a living.

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I have loads of respect for my customers which is why I'm probably the only company owner who responds directly to the customers. I just have very little respect for your opinions and your attitude.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Your attitude is why Grooby will NEVER improve its quality of models and videos. You always think that your opinion is the only opinion that matters. You don't think your customers should have a voice and should pay up because Grooby is one of the few companies that shoot TS porn.

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People CHOOSE whether to pay or not - and we don't need to improve the quality of our models BECAUSE WE'RE SHOWING THE TOP QUALITY MODELS AVAILABLE IN THE INDUSTRY THAT MOST COMPANIES CAN'T EVEN GET.

You just don't get it - this IS how it is. You think you know this industry but you don't - you know very little about it and your self-stated lack of experience in any form of sex, with the exception of porn, shows why only an unattainable fantasy can get you what you desire.
I'm tired of answering the same questions that you continue to harp on about - and I'm not going to allow our companies good name and our awesome models to continue to be sullied by you. Opinions are ok but your constant whinging isn't. Prepare to take a break from this forum if you keep it up.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Let me educate you.

You haven't been a member on this board for 6 months. You don't know what the majority of people on this board thinks. I know for a fact that a vast majority of porn customers on this board are not pleased with the model quality on BTG.

Who are these girls you are taking about? Yes, some of the models on the site are girls. Some of the models are male crossdressers. I'm not calling them crossdressers because of their physical appearances. Members on this board call them crossdressers because Grooby has confirmed in this thread that some of these models are simiply crossdressers. If you're going to make a TS site then you need to shoot TS women, not men in wigs.

He was insulting a paying customer. I have been a paying customer for many years. Grooby doesn't offer trail memberships. I've always paid for FULL memberships.

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Let me educate YOU!
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM THINK.
We've featured a few great early transitioning models on our sites which are "shemale" and "tgirls" - some aren't fulltime transsexuals but many of them have transitioned into the best models in the industry, they would never have had the start and maybe have never been seen.

I don't care if you're a paying customer or how much you've paid. I treat all customers the same, with respect as customers - and I listen to their feedback, but if I'm unable to please them, then they can move along. If you continue to be an ass - whether you're a customer or not, I'm going to call you an ass.

Franklin - you really are getting to be tiresome.

I've been following this thread quite a bit and all I can say in regards to Black Tgirls is this.
The absolute BEST there ever was, and ever will be, is gone forever.
I was such a huge admirer of Sheeba. She really was like no other. Truly the most gorgeous girl I had ever laid eyes on. I so much miss seeing her. A one of a kind she certainly was.

It appears the person offering all these statements to wards Seanchi don’t realise Grooby was the only company that made a Black T Girl site when all the others did not.

Obviously, there are more Black T Girls prancing around today than say 14 – 15 years ago. But Grooby has photographed the majority of Black T Girls on the scene.

Considering there is more competition today and, a large portion of T Girl sites are not around anymore that offers the same longevity of Grooby, it is obvious Black T Girls has weathered the storm and is still successful today.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Why hasn't Ashley Hunter appeared on a Grooby site? Is she disinterested?

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Ashley Hunter is on Black Tgirls.

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Not all black T- girls have masculine bodies.

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Originally Posted by Arianny

Not all black T- girls have masculine bodies.

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