Am i the only one

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Originally Posted by Ryz

Classic freddie thread. I love how things never change around here :)

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Soo, uhh... not to change the subject, but how'd you get so sexy anyway? :party:

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Originally Posted by Ryz

Classic freddie thread. I love how things never change around here :)

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I am starting to appreciate the guy... at least he is honest about how he feels.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

I am starting to appreciate the guy... at least he is honest about how he feels.

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Has anyone ever seen you and him in the same place on the internet at the same time? :geek:

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Soo, uhh... not to change the subject, but how'd you get so sexy anyway? :party:

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No clue :P

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Originally Posted by Ryz

No clue :P

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So you didn't work at it? It just came naturally? :Bowdown: :fuckin:

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

I am starting to appreciate the guy... at least he is honest about how he feels.

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Haha, I suppose. I think he's funny, but a lot of people here are always catching feelings from his posts. Meh :shrug

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

So you didn't work at it? It just came naturally? :Bowdown: :fuckin:

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Haha, stop. I guess it did <3

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

OK, now that we each understand the other's perspective a little more, I'm still wondering what happened to you that was so devastating that you feel the need to take up the attitude that you have here. Who hurt you sweetheart?

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Just having to be a ts and getting all that openmindedness crap shoved down my throat did lol

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Just having to be a ts and getting all that openmindedness crap shoved down my throat did lol

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Why? Because it shatters your illusions of superiority? :geek:

YouTube - Elvis Costello (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace Love and Understanding

Seriously.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

im very firm in my views,perceptions and beliefs.im not the type to waver from them or anything.saying that im better than a female cause i have a dick isnt one of them.
if i was the type to be wishy-washy then i would of fucked freddy already cause the kid is sexy and has a big dick lol.

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Freddy at one point asked you what made you better then woman for having the attitude that you have lol, and you replied, my cock, dick or something like that.

You were probably just joking then

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Why? Because it shatters your illusions of superiority? :geek:

YouTube - Elvis Costello (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace Love and Understanding

Seriously.

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I can get sex as a bttm anytime i want too, but i dont want or need it, i like to share love with a man that loves me for who i am, not just for sex and not for my genitals. Do you seriously believe any of those powerbttms love you coz u are a woman? No they love you coz you are not, but because you are a ts it is a mortal sin in their eyes to let them know they make you feel like a freak instead of a woman.

They are soooooo open minded, thar the only thing they seem to understand are their own needs lol

And i would not mind it if like 50% of the men in the scene were like that, but they are actually 98% of the men here making you believe they support you as woman, while all they can think about is your hard cock in their arse lol

There are none so blind as those who look only in their own carnival mirror and see their own truth reflected back to them. Birgitta - I thought you were smart and likeable but i suspect that hate is your primary driver?

Oh should I have added lol - just to soften the remark like you do?

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Originally Posted by Prospero

There are none so blind as those who look only in their own carnival mirror and see their own truth reflected back to them. Birgitta - I thought you were smart and likeable but i suspect that hate is your primary driver?

Oh should I have added lol - just to soften the remark like you do?

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In my case the truth that i see in the mirror is an unhappy one for tgirls like me, so i dont see any advantage for myself wanting to see things the way i do

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

I can get sex as a bttm anytime i want too, but i dont want or need it, i like to share love with a man that loves me for who i am, not just for sex and not for my genitals. Do you seriously believe any of those powerbttms love you coz u are a woman? No they love you coz you are not, but because you are a ts it is a mortal sin in their eyes to let them know they make you feel like a freak instead of a woman.

They are soooooo open minded, thar the only thing they seem to understand are their own needs lol

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Here's the thing you don't seem to understand. I'm not actually a member of the class I'm representing here so this isn't personal for me. I'm not a top... unless there is money involved or I'm (rarely) with a GG. That's right I'm bi, and I'm sure you have plenty of bigoted, homophobic views about that too so have at it so I can mock you some more.

But more importantly, what the fuck does love have to do with this?

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Here's the thing you don't seem to understand. I'm not actually a member of the class I'm representing here so this isn't personal for me. I'm not a top... unless there is money involved or I'm (rarely) with a GG. That's right I'm bi, and I'm sure you have plenty of bigoted, homophobic views about that too so have at it so I can mock you some more.

But more importantly, what the fuck does love have to do with this?

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I have a bisexual twoman as a friend so no.
And love and truth are rarely found in this scene lol
So who is it that is spreading the hate prospero lol

"But more importantly, what the fuck does love have to do with this?"

I think I see that, for Birgitta, a loving relationship is what she is looking for -untainted by any issue around the gender she has rejected emotionally but not (Yet) rid herself off physically. I assume she does not wish - or cannot - enjoy sex divorced from a loving relationship. There are plenty of women and men who share that emotional reality.

And I am not spreading hate around at all Birgitta... simply sad that you reject as false my open mindedness about the rich variety of human sexual and emotional needs. You do seem to hate those who do not share the same view of sexuaity as you.
LOL

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Originally Posted by Prospero

And I am not spreading hate around at all Birgitta... simply sad that you reject as false my open mindedness about the rich variety of human sexual and emotional needs. You do seem to hate those who do not share the same view of sexuaity as you.
LOL

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You know i dont hate you personally, i might even easely love you, if we ever met irl. I do hate the sad facts about being a ts lol. The stuff you have to deal with for being different when from the inside you are not.

Just the basic need to feel loved for who you are not for what you are not,
I think that is what kills many of us

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Originally Posted by Prospero

"But more importantly, what the fuck does love have to do with this?"

I think I see that, for Birgitta, a loving relationship is what she is looking for -untainted by any issue around the gender she has rejected emotionally but not (Yet) rid herself off physically. I assume she does not wish - or cannot - enjoy sex divorced from a loving relationship. There are plenty of women and men who share that emotional reality.

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I understand that for her, but this is quite clearly not a dating site, even if some of us have, umm, fraternized. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Just the basic need to feel love for who you are not for what you are not
I think that is what kills many of us

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You're right, but coming here to complain about it in the manner you have isn't helping anyone.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

You know i dont hate you personally, i might even easely love you, if we ever met irl. I do hate the sad facts about being a ts lol. The stuff you have to deal with for being different when from the inside you are not.

Just the basic need to feel love for who you are not for what you are not

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You have mental issues, i would suggest seeing a therapist for your problems because from the way i see it, you have ALOT of hate towards yourself.:)

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

I understand that for her, but this is quite clearly not a dating site, even if some of us have, umm, fraternized. :lol:



You're right, but coming here to complain about it in the manner you have isn't helping anyone.

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It helps me blow off steam, and some guys might even learn a few things about the feelings of ts woman instead of the shemale cocksize

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

It helps me blow off steam, and some guys might even learn a few things about the feelings of ts woman instead of the shemale cocksize

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I still can't argue with your sentiment, but there about a gazillion better ways to have accomplished that. :geek:

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Peace. And calling someone mental is just unpleasant Mayrah.

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Originally Posted by Mayrah

You have mental issues, i would suggest seeing a therapist for your problems because from the way i see it, you have ALOT of hate towards yourself.:)

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Ask any girl on the street if they would like to trade with you and be a ts, the answer would be no except for a handfull of lesbians that dream about being a man. That is mental health for you lol

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Ask any girl on the street if they would like to trade with you and be a ts, the answer would be no except for a handfull of lesbians that dream about being a man. That is mental health for you lol

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Did you miss my second page post on that topic? I just spent TWO weeks with TWO women who are NOT lesbians, who are GG escorts, who wished they had penises. I really think you'd be surprised if you'd open your mind, but unfortunately you've already made it clear that you don't want to. Sad, really.

Oh, and asking a woman that question right out on the street in public is the best way to force her to lie.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Did you miss my second page post on that topic? I just spent TWO weeks with TWO women who are NOT lesbians, who are GG escorts, who wished they had penises. I really think you'd be surprised if you'd open your mind, but unfortunately you've already made it clear that you don't want to. Sad, really.

Oh, and asking a woman that question right out on the street in public is the best way to force her to lie.

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Oh cmon bella lol, they will make a lot more money then but if they knew what it was really like to be a ts, they would pass

Maybe if we all ignored Birgitta, she'd just go away, Just a thought

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Originally Posted by Bobzz

Maybe if we all ignored Birgitta, she'd just go away, Just a thought

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agreed

I don't want her to go away.

I would consider myself a serious mental patient if i wanted to be a ts looool

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Oh cmon bella lol, they will make a lot more money then but if they knew what it wad really like to be a ts, they would pass

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Most GG escorts I know make more money than I do. Of course their rates are lower and so they have to see more clients than I do, but that's a whole other conversation. As to whether or not these girls would hate to be TS? Yeah, you're probably right about that part. I think they'd prefer to have a...

YouTube - King Missile - Detachable Penis (Official Music Video)

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Originally Posted by Prospero

I don't want her to go away.

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Entertainment!!! :lol:

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Interesting. In London most of the truly attractive GG escorts charge more than transexuals.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

Interesting. In London most of the truly attractive GG escorts charge more than transexuals.

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The escort market here in L.A. is oversaturated. There's a lot of competition.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

Peace. And calling someone mental is just unpleasant Mayrah.

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Its not to harass her or anything, im dead serious.

One of the first few steps in transistion is self acceptance, i dont see that anywhere from her comments. Its also the comparing herself that we live in a fantasy/dream world and that she lives in the reality and the shit she has to go through as a TS while we go through the same steps.

If you check in the first pages from this thread, you can see her agreeing with Freddie about penis = eeww and what a real man is. Then she starts about Love one or two pages back.

Those things are completly different.

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Originally Posted by Mayrah

Its not to harass her or anything, im dead serious.

One of the first few steps in transistion is self acceptance, i dont see that anywhere from her comments. Its also the comparing herself that we live in a fantasy/dream world and that she lives in the reality and the shit she has to go through as a TS while we go through the same steps.

If you check in the first pages from this thread, you can see her agreeing with Freddie about penis = eeww and what a real man is. Then she starts about Love one or two pages back.

Those things are completly different.

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Sorry you dont have the mental capacity to understand where i am coming from. And for your information, self acceptance is an issue for almost any human being lol. And my self is not my body lol, i have accepted who i am from the inside, i will probably always have a hard time accepting that i am a ts.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

i will probably always have a hard time accepting that i am a ts.

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Of this I'm sure... and now I have to be serious for a second: if you feel that way you really should be seeing a professional. In case you missed it, a friend of ours here with very similar feelings to yours took her own life recently. You're annoying, you're insecure, you're closed-minded, but you don't deserve to die. Your account here on HA maybe, but not you. Please get help. I'm not joking. :(

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Originally Posted by Tika

Freddy, you're a fucking idiot.

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That.

And it's sad to see all those threads trying to convince himself that he's straight, when he's in fact the only one who really cares.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Sorry you dont have the mental capacity to understand where i am coming from. And for your information, self acceptance is an issue for almost any human being lol. And my self is not my body lol, i have accepted who i am from the inside, i will probably always have a hard time accepting that i am a ts.

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I do understand, and yes self acceptance is a issue for alot of people. but as a TS, you need to be strong or your not going to make it.. especially if you cant accept your body.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

i will probably always have a hard time accepting that i am a ts.

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You are an intelligent person and hopefully you see the relationship between that statement and your abhorrence for men who love the male parts of TS women and for TS women themselves who have accepted what fate has dealt. One cannot unmake who or what they are - transform perhaps - but not unmake. And if you continue to torture yourself over the inability to do that, it could lead to unpleasant things as Bella suggested.

I hope you don't leave the board - in more ways than one.