LOL, put that idiot in his place, Quinn!Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinn
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LOL, put that idiot in his place, Quinn!Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinn
Sweet Fancy Moses...we have another nutjob quoting infowars.com...LMAO...I suspect that it's only a short time until we hear from anoter like-minded lad...yes...I am speaking of James Redford...aka Jamie "Kascynski" Michelle...I'm sure that you two will hit it off...Quote:
Originally Posted by twowaybro
James claims to have met jesus face-to-face...have you met allah face-to-face? If so, maybe you two great minds can get them together and broker a peace treaty.... :roll:
The answer 2 ur question is readily obvious 2 anyone who is fluent in US geo-political/military history. The US has never been very good in guerilla/urban combat but has always done quite well in executing covert operations. A more proper question would b how could a ragtag, but well funded, group of Islamic "jihadist" totally circumvent the most technically advanced defense network(NORAD) in the modern world and get away with it. No way possible unless it's ALLOWED 2 happen. But i dont care 2 debate the veracity of the "official" 9-11 findings. I'm pretty much convinced that the government(and particularly Dick Cheney) is complicit in that event. And 4 all intents and purposes, that case is closed anyway and is unlikely 2 ever b re-opened. With no-one exept 4 a stooge ever being brought 2 trial and no-one in any key positions of authority on that day ever being seriously brought 2 task 4 supposedly "falling asleep at the wheel". The more pressing issue right now and one that should be debated is the current illegal Israeli operation in Lebanon that has caused the needless deaths of innocent civilians on both sides and is n danger of sparking a wider regional and dare i say global conflict. I have 2 say that it is not totally unexpected when one considers the ramifications of Peak Oil and the drive that the industrialized world is on 2 shore up and secure the largest remaining reliable sources of energy reserves. Most wars have pretty much always been about the control of resources. Israel is basically just setting up the stage 4 its "big brother" 2 continue it's mission 2 secure and shore up that region with Iran being the big prize.Quote:
One thing that makes this 'Inside Job' theory particularly absurd, is that an organization so efficient, so precise, so ruthless, and so capable as to be able to pull off such a feat as September 11, AND get away with it would, in my estimation, be more than up to the task of pacifying a country like Iraq. Why should this mighty edifice be so brilliant at the former, yet so inept at the latter?
p.s. I heard that Pepto Bismo works pretty well on nausea and it matches the color scheme of this board....so, have a sip and get a grip.
Let me reiterate:
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Originally Posted by interestedParty
How do you know Pepto-Bismo isn't some poison created by the military-industrial complex? Meant to create cancer and thereby provide the pharmaceutical industry with consumers for their latest batch of cancer drugs?Quote:
Originally Posted by twowaybro
So it's true! Facts and empirical data don't have a place in your little paranoid universe!Quote:
Originally Posted by twowaybro
You just contradicted yourself. If the US has never been good at combating guerillas, then wouldn't it be all the easier for said guerillas to perpetrate their own little covert operation? Besides, NORAD was designed to track incoming missiles, not divine the intentions of hijackers.
Let me put it to you this way. A small group of hijackers, each armed with what in prison might be called a 'shank,' overpower the flight attendants, and break into the cockpit of an airliner. They then announce that they're hijacking the plane. Now, it has been some time since the last such incident, so the passengers are scared shitless. It's very probable that air-traffic controllers were able to figure out that these planes had been hijacked; however, all hijackings in the past have followed a distinct pattern: hijackers commandeer the plane, take it to a neutral country, and make their demands. Apart from the ambitiousness of this hijacking (several planes at once), there isn't much to make people on the ground (or in the planes for that matter) suspect that this time around would be any different. For the people on the ground, military and civilian, the goal is to get the passengers off the planes and out of danger. When the first plane hits, confusion reigns. I don't know how familiar you are with psychology (actually, you might benefit from a good psychologist), but in such a situation, it is very likely that the initial reaction would be indecision. The dilemma is this: What do we do? If we shoot down the planes, the hostages will die. If we don't, more buildings will be destroyed. It doesn't matter that this dilemma is irrational, in a panic situation the initial reaction often is irrational. The fact is that this whole operation was very well planned; it was devised by a very shrewd hand. That person could've been Atta or one of the hijackers, or Osama bin Ladin, or Zawahiri. This is where you make your most serious error in judgement: you give the terrorists too little credit, and the US military too much credit. As you yourself said, the military isn't very good at fighting guerillas. This tactic of using jetliners as missiles never occured to the Pentagon. You seem to want to endow the military with almost godlike omnipotence. For some reason, it doesn't occur to you that the Pentagon could fuck up, but it did. For some reason you don't want to believe that a bunch of jihadists could be so clever, but they were.
So, with that said, I would like to know exactly how you judge the veracity of your data. In other words, when you read two contradictory 'facts' from different sources, how do you, personally, decide which is true and which is false? Bear in mind that these two 'facts' have nothing to do with your current delusional system, they're about some other, hypothetical event.
Enlighten me as to your thought processes.
LMAO... You know, we should be careful, Interestedparty. That factually challenged dullard has quite a reputation. If you don't believe me, you can just ask him:Quote:
Originally Posted by interestedParty
What a sad, yet entertaining, little clown.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacShreach
-Quinn
LMFAO...reputation? If you reside in a pasture you might have reason to be cautious about his "reputation"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinn
As his old friend and tormentor J once said...
"Why do Scottish men wear kilts? Because sheep can hear a zipper opening fifty feet away..."
Bob Dylan
Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him.
He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.
He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly.
To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.
What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say.
He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.
What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully.
Source: Copyright © 1983 by Special Rider Music. All rights reserved. International copyright secured. Reprinted by permission.