Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
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Quiet Reflections
I hate to say it but I think he will kill himself in less than 5 years if he gets the chance otherwise I think he will serve at least 10-15 years before he even get the chance to see a letter from the parole board.
If he doesn't get killed first. If regular inmates look down on some of the other inmates, like child rapists, Manning's fellow inmates are still soldiers. Soldiers don't like traitors. (Even if you don't happen to think he's a traitor, some of them probably do.) The guards won't mind looking the other way, either. Bradley/Chelsea will always be looking over his shoulder.
Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
This "coming out" seems to be quite coincidental with the sentencing. There must be an agenda.
Transitioning in a Military prison would not be the best place to do that. It just opened up a lot more groups of prisoners that don't like you, or be their girls shared around.
As to TS in the military, if just entering I think a TS would have a high risk of not succeeding, needing to be tough by day, fem by night burns the candle at both ends. High chance of flaming out.
However, if already in and your job performance is up to par, they should be able to stay. At least she won't get pregnant at sea. the determination to transition is the same as the determination to succeed so they can be very good.
Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
Here's a very good interview on this matter that I thought you all would enjoy. I think ZJ handled herself very well...
I was on TV again - YouTube
Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
If no one has heard of Zinnia Jones, I highly recommend you take a listen to her youtube page. Very bright & educated. I've followed her vids for quite awhile...
Here's another interview with her regarding this story...
I was on TV last night - YouTube
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Sorry, can't listen to her, she sounds like one of those Voice to Speech programs!
Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
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Queens Guy
If he doesn't get killed first. If regular inmates look down on some of the other inmates, like child rapists, Manning's fellow inmates are still soldiers. Soldiers don't like traitors. (Even if you don't happen to think he's a traitor, some of them probably do.) The guards won't mind looking the other way, either. Bradley/Chelsea will always be looking over his shoulder.
very true but I always thought Fort Leavenworth was a super max. If that is the case there might not even be a chance for anyone to get near him...but then we are talking about prison so I guess anything can happen
Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
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Jericho
Sorry, can't listen to her, she sounds like one of those Voice to Speech programs!
Voice to Speech?
Fuckit, you know what I mean!
Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
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Jericho
Sorry, can't listen to her, she sounds like one of those Voice to Speech programs!
LOL-yea I know what you mean. She seems to write everything down, then read what she's suppose to say. Sort of like a news reporter. She speaks in a sort of stern type of manner. But in all fairness, she's very, very knowledgeable, and an advocate for Trans issues. I suppose you have to get past the way she talks, and just try and understand her views.
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Don't drop the soap Chelsea
Re: Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman
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sabre666
And you're obviously an asshole who knows nothing about what constitutes treason and the legitimate punishment for it.
Did you ever serve in the military, smartass?
I'm betting no. Because otherwise you'd know just what this shit-stain violated and you'd also understand that he got over.
I did serve & I know exactly what I'm talking about.
You don't like it ? Tough shit, next time chew harder!
So you would be the Nazi who was "just following orders" rather than question your leadership and the crimes they committed. What a stand up piece of work you must be!!
Big deal, you were in the military - so you took a job that you could get, what does that have to do with anything? I've done a bunch of jobs that required harder and dirtier work than most of the military that I know - and I didn't have to "serve" anyone. You done it for a paycheck - get over that, smart ass.