but torture is so much fun and revenge is sweet and i know if i don't get them one of my family will
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but torture is so much fun and revenge is sweet and i know if i don't get them one of my family will
Hysterical much? Michelle Bachmann is already done. And we need a few more of those 'rabid right wing nutcases' in our government right now. Does it make you proud to see london being set on fire and do think wow the politics I endorse created that. The fruits of liberal dogma and multiculturalism right there.
The left are so insane in the UK they blame the riots on tory cuts that haven't even happened yet.... They could have justifiably talked about the cameron and mays handling of the disorder, the poor leadership within the met but oh no.
Arnie, either you aren't serious or you haven't been paying attention. Since Bush the younger (to distinguish the derelict son from the intelligent, though useless outside of the CIA, George Herbert Walker) stole the election the middle class has eroded, democracy has been degraded by the corporatocraxy, and civil rights have been pushed aside in favor of "right wing nutcase" ideals.
Unless you are a billionaire, the republican right isn't doing a thing for you and hasn't in decades. And you don't sound like a billionaire.
You sound like someone who has been sold a bill of goods. There's no shame in recognizing that and reversing course.
Or you could keep doing what you're doing and just marvel at the revolution to come. It's coming, Arnie, and pleading ignorance won't save anyone.
Allow me to point out your utter ignorance about what a fiscal conservative or a libertarian is ....to you. Here's what you said...
"Unless you are a billionaire, the republican right isn't doing a thing for you and hasn't in decades. And you don't sound like a billionaire."
First off....you're exactly right...we don't want nor need the government to do anything for us unless it's specifically alliterated in the founding documents. Unwittingly, you've laid out the difference between liberals and conservatives/libertarians perfectly. The government and the liberals are constantly looking for victims to "help" and have brought us to the point where nearly half of Americans are paying for the other half in some form or another. You think that's sustainable?...take a look at your own fucking mess out there, or the EU before answering that.. The Federal Government needs to stay the fuck out of our lives.. keep us safe, help the old and those who are unable to help themselves, enact laws that allow the private sector to flourish in a fair, unfettered environment, and don't micro-manage the lives of it's citizens. It's called individualism, and it was the principal in which the nation was founded.
Next...there is a world of difference between a Republican and a libertarian/ fiscal conservative. I'll school you on that later
The second point of your foolishness.....there's only 2 people on earth who are still ( publicly anyway) crying about the election. You and Al Gore. Everyone else has come to terms with it....grow up and move on. As to your point about fat cats and the Republicans, you're singing a tune that's not only overplayed, but entirely wrong. Large corporate donors have flocked to the Democratic party in the last 4 years by a margin of 2-1, and that's common knowledge. For Christ sakes Obama's entire financial team was Wall Street insiders. So why does Wall Street favor Democrats? Simple...they make large sums of money underwriting bad mortgages and huge US debt, and have little to fear about "to big to fail"...and if you know anything about Dodd/Frank, you'd know it does nothing to change the landscape...and they don't want that gravy train to stop anytime soon. Do you think for one minute that a hedge fund manager or Big Banker wants to see the Tea Party prevail? You're a dupe if you're so inclined.
It appears you've been indoctrinated by years of reading the LA Times !
Question for you...your city, your State Legislature has been run almost exclusively by left wing Democrats for decades....( except for short periods when a RINO gave it a shot)....and they've surely been very benoulvent with other working folks money, so your little experiment has been given more than enough time to work out there...and how's that all workin' out for ya? Can you say INSOLVENCY ?? Can you say mass exodus by the working class to places like Colorado and Texas?
Your day of fiscal reckoning is at hand, generations of left wing social polices have brought California to it's kness, and you would have us believe you have the answers to resolve the nation's financial problems? LMAO. Take that show on the road and see what type of reaction you get. I can hear it now....let us do for the 49 other states what we did for California. Sounds lke a perfect 2012 campaign commercial ...go with it !!
Wow, Nicole's gotta love how her farewell thread has turned into a political discussion. Hey, Nicole, if you're lurking out there you're missing out on all the fun.:dancing:
I agree with BigDF- Nicole is missing something, indeed. Maybe we can manage to make the thread racist as well!
I also agree with OMK on the major points.
Surprised? Only if you don't know me- but how could you? I'm no liberal.
I just draw the line differently than he does. I don't think the liberal left represents the average tree-hugging, Birkenstock-wearing, Prius driving wingnut than the conservative right represents Hoe Six-Pack, Joe the Plumber, or Joe Schmoe.
We're all being taken for a ride. Maybe in different cars, but we're bound and gagged, bloodied and beaten, waiting to be fitted for cement shoes and tossed into the river.
Its just that some of us still think we're going to Disneyland.
I forgive any personal attack- how personally could I really take them? It's the Interwebz!
The only revolution that will be coming will be when the white men finally take to the streets, pissed off with the years of politically correct and liberal bullshit that has infested most western countries. Especially the US and the UK. Fact is the majority think like me ,which is why you lefties have to hide behind the legal system and political system.Like the craven crabs they are. And don't tell me I don't know what Iam talking about.I work in the legal system.And frankly I could go on for pages about just how unfair and corrupt it is. But I value my job.
Oh and by the way I haven't go anything personally against the other races, they have been used by the left as drones to keep themselves in power.That is why there was mass immigration. I know many ethnics who are seriously pissed off also.
Bush was in a no way a conservative,he certainly wasn't a nationalist. Just look at what he did to the economy while his lot had control,spend spend spend.Of course Obama made things much worse in less time, but please Bush was some kind of neo liberal . And eroding civil rights and making numerous laws stopping people having free speech is more a penchant of the left than the right.
The Conservatives cut taxes for the rich for over a decade and the U.S. economy cratered with entire job sectors exported forever to Asia.
If anyone thinks cutting MORE taxes with even LESS government regulation is anything but a prescription for another decade long recession, you need to stop drinking all that 'TEA'.
When corporations get in over their heads because there aren't any road rules to protect them from harming themselves, and us, corporate chiefs will whine like the little bitches they've always been to Uncle Sam to cover their asses.
And someone explain how eliminating the FDA, the EPA and the FCC and the Department of Education will write down existing mortgages and create jobs??
The system has been rigged, and only a fool believes Obama created this mess.
The real truth??
It will take the U.S. economy at least a decade to recover back to unemployment numbers below 6%.
No Democrat can change that reality, no right-wing Jesus freakazoid or moose hunting Caribou barbie can either.
We need greater efficiencies and accountability in the Federal government. We don't need it to be eliminated.
Goldman Sachs has been at the side of U.S. presidents making fiscal policy decisions for almost 30 years. Treasury Secretary Paulson under Dubya, the guy who wrote the 700 word proposal requesting a $700 billion dollar bailout from Congress with absolutely no Congressional or legal oversight as to how that money would be spent, is a former CEO at Goldman Sachs.
SOrry, but if you think Wall Street 'favor's Democrats over Republicans, you're either in denial or a fool.
Wall Street ALWAYS places bets on BOTH SIDES, that way they can have a 'socialist' POTUS who orders his Treasury Secretary to buy toxic assets from investment banking houses at their original sale dollar face value, and a Republican Congress that blocks any attempts at substantive changes in financial regulations and refuses to let the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire.
The Tea Party is a fraud and are an astroturf movement funded by the Koch brothers. Rick Perry is a corporatist, not a Tea bagger. He's co-opting the populist conservative message of that movement to get himself the nomination.
Does Wall Street want a wingnut Tea Bagger to be POTUS??? No one does.
That's why only Perry or Romney will win the GOP nomination, which means business as usual in 2013 if Obama is defeated.
Break it down, GH!
Sad thing is that the people who need to listen are so caught up in the lie that they won't realize it until it's too late.
But don't stop - the truth is the only hope we have.