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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Yeah. No. Don't lower your prices. You're a person, not clearance meat. Act like the latter and that's how people will treat you. You're putting a price on yourself - make it appropriate. *smh*

I mean, 'lower your standards?' Seriously, where does some of this advice come from?

~BB~

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this is the problem why only few of us are successful, some can be stubborn even arrogant.

Lowering the price does not mean lowering the standard.
I only charge $400 and for some wealthy guys that is a piece of cake since some girls charge double or triple than that.

Does my standard lower than those who charge more? the answer is NO.
that's why men come almost every hour.

I'm here to help in the middle of my clients. As an escort, i almost do not have social life, Internet is one of few friends I have. I work almost every hour with few minutes break here and there.

Reading how honest and desperate Miranda touches my heart.

I couldn't careless if i want to. Heck, i'm already a millionaire, but NO. I never forget where I'm coming from.

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

this is the problem why only few of us are successful, some can be stubborn even arrogant.

Lowering the price does not mean lowering the standard.
I only charge $400 and for some wealthy guys that is a piece of cake since some girls charge double or triple than that.

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Fair enough, but you said $80. Girls who underbid that badly give us all a bad name and need to stop with their desperate, attention whoring bullshit. The answer is not to validate them. :lol:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

Porn industry is dying

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this is true, everyone stay away from Porn

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Fair enough, but you said $80. Girls who underbid that badly give us all a bad name and need to stop with their desperate, attention whoring bullshit. The answer is not to validate them. :lol:

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That's the price I charged when I started this profession about 8 years ago.

Like Miranda, I was desperate and didn't know where to go.
I had two options: charging $200 or more like other girls and i may or may not have a client, or charging much lower so i can continue my life.
I chose the second option since Toronto is not the cheapest place to live, by charging lower, most clients were willing to see me.

I worked for $80 an hour for two months, then up to $160 on the third month, then on the third of half month, I bought my 1st property, then the rest is history

I saved 95% of my income at the time, I literally ate rice and soya souce most of the time to save money. But It finally paid off.

Gotta work again now, we will discuss further this issue when i'm done

Don't go!

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

That's the price I charged when I started this profession about 8 years ago.

Like Miranda, I was desperate and didn't know where to go.
I had two options: charging $200 or more like other girls and i may or may not have a client, or charging much lower so i can continue my life.
I chose the second option since Toronto is not the cheapest place to live, by charging lower, most clients were willing to see me.

I worked for $80 an hour for two months, then up to $160 on the third month, then on the third of half month, I bought my 1st property, then the rest is history

I saved 95% of my income at the time, I literally ate rice and soya souce most of the time to save money. But It finally paid off.

Gotta work again now, we will discuss further this issue when i'm done

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That's good to hear, but I'm sure you understand that you're the exception, not the rule. Congrats. :)

~BB~

Every post asian p makes is put there for one reason only...to talk up asian p either as an escort or a person...utterrly self-serving...sickening.

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

very true. Porn industry is dying and it will be replaced by "creative porn" as well as interactive porn in the future.

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The porn industry is not dying, in fact it's doing better than ever. It's always evolved and changed ... and grown.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

The porn industry is not dying, in fact it's doing better than ever. It's always evolved and changed ... and grown.

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Sounds like a classic university debate. "Is there anything that evolves faster than porn?"

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Originally Posted by iagodelgado

Sounds like a classic university debate. "Is there anything that evolves faster than porn?"

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There didn't used to be. The porn industry was at the forefront of internet technology and especially online video technology in it's early days but it's been left behind by far more inventive technologies in social media/marketing. The next step for porn is going to be the interfacing of the online with the physical.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

There didn't used to be. The porn industry was at the forefront of internet technology and especially online video technology in it's early days but it's been left behind by far more inventive technologies in social media/marketing. The next step for porn is going to be the interfacing of the online with the physical.

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Oh, I dunno. Don't forget that the industry chose VHS over Beta, dooming us all to an inferior standard for a decade. :lol:

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VHS was cheaper.

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Originally Posted by EvaCassini

VHS was cheaper.

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It's always quantity over quality, isn't it? :(

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

That's good to hear, but I'm sure you understand that you're the exception, not the rule. Congrats. :)

~BB~

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There is nothing special about me Bella. The only difference is: I've chosen the right choices in my life, not all the time, i do make mistakes from time to time, but at least i do my best to make everything work for the best.

Judging by the comments of some of you, my advice may not be well perceived.

Too bad indeed.

I'm not here to brag about my life, I'm here just to share with all of you the up and down of my life.

People perceive message and outer stimulis differently, Nysprod might see it as me bragging myself.

And that's his perception, and that's why he is here all the time, checking on the internet, with some occasional fun with tgirls on the street or from the club if he has $50 or $100 extra from government subsidy. I don't want my life to be like his. It's a total failure in my opinion

However, some people might see and read it differently. They might see it as a positive encouragement. They are positive and hopefully they will be successful

Our success and failure in life depends on how good (or bad) we choose options that are available. If we choose the best options, we will be the happiest. On the contrary, if we choose the bad ones, we will be here miserable.

There is a similarity between my life and Miranda's life, that's why i join and participate.

And now, it's all up to her.

I'm done now

cheers!

^ Yeah. I gotta agree with Nysprod on this one. Wow. Just wow. :rolleyes:

'Our success and failure in life depends on how good (or bad) we choose options that are available.'

Sure... so if you have to choose between a dirty douche and a turd sandwich, what then?

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

^ Yeah. I gotta agree with Nysprod on this one. Wow. Just wow. :rolleyes:

'Our success and failure in life depends on how good (or bad) we choose options that are available.'

Sure... so if you have to choose between a dirty douche and a turd sandwich, what then?

~BB~

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Gimmie that Dirty Douche any day!!! :p

lol..funny. O well, i guess i have to be back to my penthouse alone again then as usual.

bye. It's my choice and that's your choice. that's why i'm here and you are there.

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

lol..funny. O well, i guess i have to be back to my penthouse alone again then as usual.

bye. It's my choice and that's your choice. that's why i'm here and you are there.

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Huh? Back to your pretentious? When did you leave?

~BB~

asian p is charging the bike as we speak gotta make those deliveries lmao

Asianphoenix has one person giving her posts a thumbs up. I don't understand how. I have not seen her posts before but I don't understand how they are not badly received by everyone.

The boasting is unsolicited, gratuitous, and made without any intention of really being helpful.

If someone has money and class they don't talk about the former.

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Originally Posted by broncofan

If someone has money and class they don't talk about the former.

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Well said.
You can paint shit - but it still stinks.

Not to distract from the current conversation, but I just wanted to update you all and say that I'm feeling mildly better today. I remain deeply concerned about my long term life prospects given the challenges I have had with mental illness -- my recent emotional collapse is part of a lifelong pattern of negative mood cycling which has exercised debilitating pressure on my ability to build a life for myself -- and consequently still feel very pessimistic. That said, my moment to moment mood hasn't been nearly so negative, nor have I been feeling the physical effects of severe negative mood, i.e. diminished motor control and intoxicated-like affect. Furthermore, I had an endocrinology appointment this morning which forced me to get up, moving and out the door -- always a good thing. My endocrinologist, who has been aware of my struggles with mood and mental health, adjusted my hormones dosage today to promote more positive mood: I did not receive a progestin (a natural depressant) shot, but did get another round of estrogen (a natural anti-depressant) pellets, along with a single testosterone (also a natural anti-depressant) pellet, which will have no masculinizing effects but should act to improve mood, and should likewise help stimulate prostatic secretion, i.e. lead to the production of cum once more.

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Originally Posted by tsmirandameadows

Not to distract from the current conversation, but I just wanted to update you all and say that I'm feeling mildly better today. I remain deeply concerned about my long term life prospects given the challenges I have had with mental illness -- my recent emotional collapse is part of a lifelong pattern of negative mood cycling which has exercised debilitating pressure on my ability to build a life for myself -- and consequently still feel very pessimistic.

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Thanks for the update! I can relate to the concern about relapsing from depression. It's quite another level of concern when you can become depressed about the prospect of becoming more depressed. When I went on antidepressants they made me able to function but I never did get full remission.

It's interesting you mention the testosterone. I was prescribed androgel as an adjunctive antidepressant treatment a few years ago. It worked okay but then I became paranoid that it was going to make me lose my hair so I stopped it. Anyhow, that side effect would probably take many months of elevate dht levels to bring about.

I'm glad you're starting to feel better.

Get well Miranda!

Just wanted to point out: a great book I read about depression is called Prozac Nation by Liz Wurtzel.

Miranda,
Thank you for sharing whats going on. Many of us are genuinely concerned. I really appreciate hearing from you.

You write very well, maybe WHEN you have conquered this there could be a book in it that might help others going though similar issues.

Anyway I am glad your doing better.

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Originally Posted by tsmirandameadows

Not to distract from the current conversation, but I just wanted to update you all and say that I'm feeling mildly better today. I remain deeply concerned about my long term life prospects given the challenges I have had with mental illness -- my recent emotional collapse is part of a lifelong pattern of negative mood cycling which has exercised debilitating pressure on my ability to build a life for myself -- and consequently still feel very pessimistic. That said, my moment to moment mood hasn't been nearly so negative, nor have I been feeling the physical effects of severe negative mood, i.e. diminished motor control and intoxicated-like affect. Furthermore, I had an endocrinology appointment this morning which forced me to get up, moving and out the door -- always a good thing. My endocrinologist, who has been aware of my struggles with mood and mental health, adjusted my hormones dosage today to promote more positive mood: I did not receive a progestin (a natural depressant) shot, but did get another round of estrogen (a natural anti-depressant) pellets, along with a single testosterone (also a natural anti-depressant) pellet, which will have no masculinizing effects but should act to improve mood, and should likewise help stimulate prostatic secretion, i.e. lead to the production of cum once more.

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Good-ish news. I'm glad.

Miranda, take care of yourself. You're worth it and PLEASE interrupt YOUR thread when others begin to turn it into a soap opera.

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Originally Posted by tsmirandameadows

Not to distract from the current conversation, but I just wanted to update you all and say that I'm feeling mildly better today. I remain deeply concerned about my long term life prospects given the challenges I have had with mental illness -- my recent emotional collapse is part of a lifelong pattern of negative mood cycling which has exercised debilitating pressure on my ability to build a life for myself -- and consequently still feel very pessimistic. That said, my moment to moment mood hasn't been nearly so negative, nor have I been feeling the physical effects of severe negative mood, i.e. diminished motor control and intoxicated-like affect. Furthermore, I had an endocrinology appointment this morning which forced me to get up, moving and out the door -- always a good thing. My endocrinologist, who has been aware of my struggles with mood and mental health, adjusted my hormones dosage today to promote more positive mood: I did not receive a progestin (a natural depressant) shot, but did get another round of estrogen (a natural anti-depressant) pellets, along with a single testosterone (also a natural anti-depressant) pellet, which will have no masculinizing effects but should act to improve mood, and should likewise help stimulate prostatic secretion, i.e. lead to the production of cum once more.

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I'm fairly impressed on how articulate you are. Few people show your level of language proficiency, here or anywhere else.

I hope you can get your life back in good order.

Good news keep on chugging. The Japanese have a saying.."Fall down 7 times...get up 8"

Glad to hear this positive news from Miranda herself

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Originally Posted by nysprod

Every post asian p makes is put there for one reason only...to talk up asian p either as an escort or a person...utterrly self-serving...sickening.

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you wrote something different on your PM:

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Originally Posted by nysprod

I'm really sorry I said something negative about you...actually I admire you very much...good luck in the future wherever life may take you.

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disgusting:(

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Huh? Back to your pretentious? When did you leave?

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Glad you are better Miranda. I literally posted two examples of negative perceptions and comments so you can see as an example

Some people make their own life miserable by what they think, perceive and do.

I came here with a good intention and they tore down everything.

And what do they get?
They most probably still they were yesterday: sitting on the internet and waiting for somebody to chat with them for $20 for 15 minutes?

Make sure you don;t want to be like them

all the best. I'm going to the gym now

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

you wrote something different on your PM:(

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You are correct, I did. So I'll re-phrase:

If you look back at the beginning of this thread, you'll see that I was the first one to realize that Miranda's op was an indication she was having a difficult time.

See what I just did there? One will generally not tend to win friends and influence people when they say things that. Actually, a lot of people will start to dislike people who say things like that.

All due respect, let me offer this as advice to you.

Now I will offer some advice to myself: I am better off shutting the fuck up sometimes lol

Peace and love.

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

Glad you are better Miranda. I literally posted two examples of negative perceptions and comments so you can see as an example

Some people make their own life miserable by what they think, perceive and do.

I came here with a good intention and they tore down everything.

And what do they get?
They most probably still they were yesterday: sitting on the internet and waiting for somebody to chat with them for $20 for 15 minutes?

Make sure you don;t want to be like them

all the best. I'm going to the gym now

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I'm certainly relieved that you probably can't reproduce.

~BB~

This started as a thread from a young woman in deep trouble. It has descended into a festival of snidery. Can all the people bad mouthing each other here just stop - or do it in a thread dedicated to that.

Miranda seems to be in a slightly better place now - thank God. I hope she can sustain and strengthen. It won't be helped by all the nasty back biting here.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

This started as a thread from a young woman in deep trouble. It has descended into a festival of snidery. Can all the people bad mouthing each other here just stop - or do it in a thread dedicated to that.

Miranda seems to be in a slightly better place now - thank God. I hope she can sustain and strengthen. It won't be helped by all the nasty back biting here.

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C'mon. This thread really isn't about her anymore. She's returned to us safely and is the mistress of her destiny. She's trying to move on, and so should we.

Besides, mocking the self-centered is a public service, IMO.

~BB~

PS: Hey, who's that in your avatar?

I have no idea who the avatar is I'm afraid. Just a pretty pic i found

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Originally Posted by asianphoenixx

Glad you are better Miranda. I literally posted two examples of negative perceptions and comments so you can see as an example

Some people make their own life miserable by what they think, perceive and do.

I came here with a good intention and they tore down everything.

And what do they get?
They most probably still they were yesterday: sitting on the internet and waiting for somebody to chat with them for $20 for 15 minutes?

Make sure you don;t want to be like them

all the best. I'm going to the gym now

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

I'm certainly relieved that you probably can't reproduce.

~BB~

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Now that Bella has ruled that the original topic doesn't matter anymore, I just want to say this is a very offensive remark made by Queen Bella, especially considering she's a parent herself. But then again, being a judgmental ass is not new territory here for her.

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Originally Posted by Odelay

Now that Bella has ruled that the original topic doesn't matter anymore, I just want to say this is a very offensive remark made by Queen Bella, especially considering she's a parent herself. But then again, being a judgmental ass is not new territory here for her.

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