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buckjohnson
Please re read my post. First I quoted an old George Carlin joke. Second america does have way too much gun violence. This is not some kind of theory. It is on the ground fact, personally felt and witnessed.
Okay ya, I see it now. I'm not denying the existance of gun violence, I know a boy who was shot several times (he wasn't even the target) last month.
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More support for the 2nd Amendment:
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BellaBellucci
More support for the 2nd Amendment:
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Great picture, Bella. You're as witty as you are beanholery.
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More support for the 2nd Amendment:
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Great pic, Bella.
I guess it pays to advertise.
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Erika1487
I am in love with this one! The gentleman who owns this shop in North Ridgeville Ohio is a good guy he is a former Cop, who has gone into the gun business. Mad props to Valkrie Armament...
This is the new belt fed ar15, m16, belt feed by Valkrie armament based out of north east ohio we are accepting ar15 rifles for conversions or supplying new rifles with the belt feed installed.
Legal for anyone to own in semi auto version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAgmFimitAw
http://www.valkyriearmament.com/
It's probably just me, but this is something that should not be available to civilians. At the very least, it should be put in the same category as full automatic weapons, which the last I heard requires an FFL in order for you to own it. I'm wondering about an ex-cop who would sell something like this to civilians, because there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that sometime down the road some other cop is going to have to face something like this with nothing but his 9mm.:yayo:
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BigDF
It's probably just me, but this is something that should not be available to civilians. At the very least, it should be put in the same category as full automatic weapons, which the last I heard requires an FFL in order for you to own it. I'm wondering about an ex-cop who would sell something like this to civilians, because there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that sometime down the road some other cop is going to have to face something like this with nothing but his 9mm.:yayo:
It's just you. There are way bigger guns that are legal for us to own. Plus they are selling it in Semi automatic so it is just as dangerous as any other semi automatic. It will only fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. It looks cool so people just think it can do more than it is actually able. Having it belt fed is no different than having a C-mag on it. Why classify it fully auto when it is not?
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Quiet Reflections
It's just you. There are way bigger guns that are legal for us to own. Plus they are selling it in Semi automatic so it is just as dangerous as any other semi automatic. It will only fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. It looks cool so people just think it can do more than it is actually able. Having it belt fed is no different than having a C-mag on it. Why classify it fully auto when it is not?
Personally, I'd rather have a semi auto than a full auto. Butt that's just me.
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crossbows are much more sexier and more civilised :)
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loren
Personally, I'd rather have a semi auto than a full auto. Butt that's just me.
Agreed. I've never fired full auto and I'd like to, but just from bump firing my M4 it's not very accurate like a semi auto can be.
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SammiValentine
so when the aliens come to kill us all ............we are relying heavily on you the American public with guns to shoot them and things. More AK47's please with special alien piercing metal bullet things.
get practicing!
Sammi the aliens came and went while the Queen was in Australia. They had one look at London and decided to head off to Skegness...no guns could control them, nor dull their infinite velocity...
http://1.2.3.13/bmi/i.telegraph.co.u...s_1367994c.jpg
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SammiValentine
so when the aliens come to kill us all ............we are relying heavily on you the American public with guns to shoot them and things. More AK47's please with special alien piercing metal bullet things.
get practicing!
You're funny Sammi, and sexy, and smart. Yes...we'll protect you Britts even from yourselves if need be ( but not from the Irish...our sympathies end there..lol)
But seriously, for as much as we have in common, there are some profound differences. I've been there many times, and love it, but just as many Britts can't get your hands around the whole fascination with guns here in the US, I can never fully understand that whole royality thing.
So when I come visit you and Libby....I'll have coffee, you can have tea, I'll ride my Harley-Davidson, you can ride your Triumph. I'll buy you dinner in dollars, and you buy me dessert in pounds. I'll drink my beer ice cold, you drink your ale at room temperature....I'll take you to an NFL game in London, and you can escort me to a soccer game in Manchester....and we'll have a blast.
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While most guns are just dangerous toys for guys with penis issues, some guns are in fact very useful. I'm going out this afternoon for one of these ->
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no Trish you need to follow Snoop's example...
The Wire Season 4 Opening & Intro - YouTube
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onmyknees
You're funny Sammi, and sexy, and smart. Yes...we'll protect you Britts even from yourselves if need be ( but not from the Irish...our sympathies end there..lol)
But seriously, for as much as we have in common, there are some profound differences. I've been there many times, and love it, but just as many Britts can't get your hands around the whole fascination with guns here in the US, I can never fully understand that whole royality thing.
So when I come visit you and Libby....I'll have coffee, you can have tea, I'll ride my Harley-Davidson, you can ride your Triumph. I'll buy you dinner in dollars, and you buy me dessert in pounds. I'll drink my beer ice cold, you drink your ale at room temperature....I'll take you to an NFL game in London, and you can escort me to a soccer game in Manchester....and we'll have a blast.
Faux pas there onmyknees: you might want to think about taking Sammi to a 'soccer' game in...Liverpool...
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Stavros
I DO love a nail driver who's also a big tipper.
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Quiet Reflections
It's just you. There are way bigger guns that are legal for us to own. Plus they are selling it in Semi automatic so it is just as dangerous as any other semi automatic. It will only fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. It looks cool so people just think it can do more than it is actually able. Having it belt fed is no different than having a C-mag on it. Why classify it fully auto when it is not?
Actually when I think about it, really would be better to license the magazine size. Even as fast as you can pull the trigger, the belt fed (or C-mag) rifle will put a lot of rounds down range, before the need to reload. The only reason I can see for a normal civilian gun owner to buy something like this is because they don't want the hassle of reloading smaller magazines at the range. The caliber doesn't matter to me very much because I feel that same way about 100 round magazines on .22 rifles.
You don't have to worry about my opinion because it will never happen in this country, as both sides of the gun issue have no compromise at all in them. And for now there are more gun owners than non-gun owners, so things will remain as they are for the time being.:(
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We're Americans, we like guns, and ain't nobody gonna change us. No need for anyone to worry. We only shoot each other keeping everything in house. A life devalues itself when it enters a home crawling through a window instead of being welcomed walking through the front door.
One of the scariest friends I had was a ghost-white English guy who kept a hammer in his coat. Quiet fella always seething with rage but a loyal friend to me.
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Dino Velvet
We're Americans, we like guns, and ain't nobody gonna change us. No need for anyone to worry. We only shoot each other keeping everything in house. A life devalues itself when it enters a home crawling through a window instead of being welcomed walking through the front door.
One of the scariest friends I had was a ghost-white English guy who kept a hammer in his coat. Quiet fella always seething with rage but a loyal friend to me.
I've had friends like that.:)
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BigDF
I've had friends like that.:)
I worked in Santa Monica. We had a good deal going with British guys coming over. They were smart and respectful and got in good with us. If we didn't hire one of their friends we found them a job somewhere else. They were sorted out even before they got on our soil. Most were good doormen and knew chain of command so they earned good treatment with secure employment.
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So would you kill a guy just for crawling through your window?! Seems to me he has a devalued sense of property, not life. Or maybe just an abhorrence for doors. It devalues life, when one values one's property more than another's life.
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trish
So would you kill a guy just for crawling through your window?!
Yep. It's an invasion of my home. I think we've had this discussion before. I know we don't agree.
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But when you value your property more than the trespasser's life, don't you devalue life?
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trish
But when you value your property more than the trespasser's life, don't you devalue life?
Nope. I'm not a bad person for protecting my property. The intruder puts a price tag on his own head with his own chosen behavior.
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Didn't say you were bad, just that you valued your property more than the trespasser's life. But, no, he didn't put a price on his head, you did. Nothing wrong with that, but if that's your position you should take full responsibility for it.
What if he was just tryin' to hide from the revenuers? :)
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trish
Didn't say you were bad, just that you valued your property more than the trespasser's life. But, no, he didn't put a price on his head, you did. Nothing wrong with that, but if that's your position you should take full responsibility for it.
What if he was just tryin' to hide from the revenuers? :)
He did... I did... I no care. I'm a nice guy and it takes a real lot to anger me. All I ask is that you receive an invitation first. I'm a great host. I got a cold one for you too, Trish.
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So now you're saying you don't care about the relative values of life and property that are held by either party. You'll shoot him because he didn't have an invitation. I just don't believe you've ever thought this through. But that all right. I'll use the door and accept a cold one.
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trish
So now you're saying you don't care about the relative values of life and property that are held by either party. You'll shoot him because he didn't have an invitation. I just don't believe you've ever thought this through. But that all right. I'll use the door and accept a cold one.
Pretty much but you are always welcome. I got all 3 Seasons of Deadwood on DVD and I'll go to the Ralph's and share a bottle of your favorite bourbon with you. I can be highly civilized between periods of barbarism. You and me don't agree on much but we get along.
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Dino Velvet
...I'll go to the Ralph's and share a bottle of your favorite bourbon with you.
That'll be Knob Creek Kentucky Bourbon.
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trish
That'll be Knob Creek Kentucky Bourbon.
See how good we get along? You got it. Hug???
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trish
While most guns are just dangerous toys for guys with penis issues, some guns are in fact very useful. I'm going out this afternoon for one of these ->
Liberals say the dumbest things....or was that kids say the dambest things? Not much difference really. You are absolutely the most intolerant person on these boards, but more than likely you don't look in the mirror much.
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loren
Personally, I'd rather have a semi auto than a full auto. Butt that's just me.
Me too. Better accuracy is what I'm about. My fully autos are more fun on the range but simply putting a ton of rounds down range will never make a guy a better shot.
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BigDF
Actually when I think about it, really would be better to license the magazine size. Even as fast as you can pull the trigger, the belt fed (or C-mag) rifle will put a lot of rounds down range, before the need to reload. The only reason I can see for a normal civilian gun owner to buy something like this is because they don't want the hassle of reloading smaller magazines at the range. The caliber doesn't matter to me very much because I feel that same way about 100 round magazines on .22 rifles.
You don't have to worry about my opinion because it will never happen in this country, as both sides of the gun issue have no compromise at all in them. And for now there are more gun owners than non-gun owners, so things will remain as they are for the time being.:(
Well a lot of states do limit what you can buy in state. In maryland you can't buy anything bigger than 20 rds from a store but since it is legal to own larger mags and c-mags you can get them out of state and at gun shows(in state gun shows also). But since 2004 when the assault weapon ban expired it has been up to the individual states to regulate such things. They made it very hard to get a concealed carry permit here. Your opinion is fine with me, I would be in favor of tighter gun laws if they also included gun education and safety training for those that don't carry or use guns also. As far as cops coming up against these type of weapons it is pretty rare.According to the FBI stats most cops killed by guns are from 9mm .38's and .40's(take note that that is what they carry and in all likelihood they are generally killed with their own weapons),So yes they pose a threat but it is far less than you would think.
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Yes, kids say the "dambest" things. LOL at a LOSER!
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And Trish is right most people devalue life and are to quick on the trigger. That is one of the many reasons home owners get sued when they shoot people that come into their homes uninvited. While we do have a right to protect our property and families some people have the idea that you can kill without question in that situation. You would be very surprised how much the criminals intent comes up in those cases. A guy stealing your TV will rob you in court too if you opt to pull the trigger instead of visiting your other options first.
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Stavros
Shit, Stavros, I'm playing at a festival in Skegness in four weeks (and there's a line I never thought I'd type lol). What are the bastards not telling us this time???
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Quiet Reflections
And Trish is right most people devalue life and are to quick on the trigger. That is one of the many reasons home owners get sued when they shoot people that come into their homes uninvited. While we do have a right to protect our property and families some people have the idea that you can kill without question in that situation. You would be very surprised how much the criminals intent comes up in those cases. A guy stealing your TV will rob you in court too if you opt to pull the trigger instead of visiting your other options first.
In my state, we can shoot intruders on sight. It's called the Castle Doctrine.
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loren
In my state, we can shoot intruders on sight. It's called the Castle Doctrine.
Utterly fuckin' terrifying
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Quiet Reflections
And Trish is right most people devalue life and are to quick on the trigger. That is one of the many reasons home owners get sued when they shoot people that come into their homes uninvited. While we do have a right to protect our property and families some people have the idea that you can kill without question in that situation. You would be very surprised how much the criminals intent comes up in those cases. A guy stealing your TV will rob you in court too if you opt to pull the trigger instead of visiting your other options first.
shit, throw a knife in his hand and you're all good
That's why there's a big difference between Breaking & Entering vs Burglary charges
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robertlouis
Utterly fuckin' terrifying
I bet you can't wait to visit me now, right? Even I own a handgun, just because I think I need to.