I think all straight men like shemales.

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Originally Posted by dopearope

spoken like someone who gets knocked back all the time


LMFAO

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pls try harder, TS SINEAD.:(

when was the last time you had any pussy from a reasonably attractive woman

be honest

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Originally Posted by dopearope

when was the last time you had any pussy from a reasonably attractive woman

be honest

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last night.

from your ugly ass bitch of a MUM lol :)

hope this helps:)p

Are you kidding! I think that if you're "straight" you "have" to like shemales. Sooner or later you're gonna get a boner! You can't tell me that a "straight" man can come on here and not find at least 1 girl on here attractive. You would have to be gay not to. If you're a "man" and is not turned on by the "feminine", than what does that make you???

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Originally Posted by FreddieGomez

I REALLY DON'T AGREE, you sound like a tranny chaser......if that was the case there'd be no hate crimes committed against trannies, especially by ones who lie to men about their true identity. I saw a clip of "there's something about Miriam" and those dudes weren't happy or interested any more when she revealed she had a dick and she is really feminine...but i'm sayin there are still some real chicks who put the hottest trannies to shame....to say real women aint as feminine is a joke

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First of all, you are putting WAY too many words in my mouth a taking shit out of context.

I didn't say ALL guys. Also, most people only commit those kinds of hate crimes when they think there are repercussions to their actions, i.e. labeling ("oh no, now I'm gay"), shame and guilt ("what would my homies think"!?), etc. If this society weren't so uptight and obsessed with sexuality and labeling, there would be plenty of "straight" guys, if/when given the opportunity and under certain circumstances would have sex with a transsexual.

And I never said ALL real women are less feminine. I said there are plenty of ts women who are more feminine and attractive than real women. There are plenty of hot ggs, yes, but then again there are also plenty of below average lookers down to straight ugly ass ggs out there as well, and those are who I'm refering to

I like a good debate but shit man DO NOT put words in my mouth. I absolutely hate that.

Originally Posted by FreddieGomez
.....if that was the case there'd be no hate crimes committed against trannies, especially by ones who lie to men about their true identity. I saw a clip of "there's something about Miriam" and those dudes weren't happy or interested any more when she revealed she had a dick and she is really feminine...

About the Miriam program. That whole program was a setup, and edited to create sensation. The guys were acting up for the cameras and because their dumb-ass egos were embarrassed in public. Any one of them likely might have dated her off camera, even knowing her "secret".

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Originally Posted by Saffron

And you draw conclusions based on those experiences you braindead cocksucker. Get over it!!

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and you know you like getting youc cock sucked too so shut up

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Originally Posted by audifan

Originally Posted by FreddieGomez
.....if that was the case there'd be no hate crimes committed against trannies, especially by ones who lie to men about their true identity. I saw a clip of "there's something about Miriam" and those dudes weren't happy or interested any more when she revealed she had a dick and she is really feminine...

About the Miriam program. That whole program was a setup, and edited to create sensation. The guys were acting up for the cameras and because their dumb-ass egos were embarrassed in public. Any one of them likely might have dated her off camera, even knowing her "secret".

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Fuckin' TRUTH! You go boy!

~BB~

Miriam looked like Jennifer Lopez at her best, those guys were def acting for the camera.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

I have always believed...it only takes the right transsexual to open a straight mans mind lol

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Kelly, I believe you could likely open most any straight mans mind...Haha!

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Originally Posted by Nowhere

Look, I don't really care about the straight-versus-gay thing one damn bit, but I do think there's a lot more bisexuality than people make out to be (especially since there is the overwhelming belief of "bi now, gay later" towards ALL MEN these days).

That being said, all I have to say is when that ellery girl was on cam4 yesterday, there were more people watching her than the "female" section of the site. It's just a fact. 2200 vs 1800 for the top girls (no pun intended).

What it comes down to is that with the internet, the bar for sex has been ramped up more, since everything is immediately accessible. Know that it was a lot more work getting porn before it existed, which kept most things on fairly tame levels (why Playboy was so successful). Playboy, for example, was always just beyond what was able to be within easy reach, like swimsuit calendars, etc. Therefore, what was a little 'bad' or 'wrong' was just plain old vanilla sex.

Remember also that this 'wrong' or 'bad' is part of what gets people's rocks off. So, by the internet making anything and everything easily accessible, this bar has been raised. Once it was lesbian porn. That was pretty easily accessible. Then girls started making out for attention in bars. Big deal.

So, that becomes normal and boring, making the bar on what gets people's rocks off goes higher. Trans girls fit a higher bar pretty well, considering it's as 'hidden' as porn once was, and that it's seen as definitely 'wrong' since anything not vanilla sex for men is considered to be on the fast track to homosexuality, so there you go.

I am thoroughly convinced a lot of guys who would call themselves "straight" look at trans porn. I have baited people in the past to unwittingly admit it, as further proof, but I think the porn industry knows it pretty well, too.

Personally, I don't care how people categorize it, but that is what it is.

And, given the fact that most people looking at porn are men, and more guys were looking at trans girls than genetic girls on cam4, at least once, that says quite a lot. And, you know what? I don't care. All I know is that it's going to get damn interesting when a celeb, politician or sports figure finally gets caught with one of you lovely girls where he can't hide it. ;)

P.S. I don't think most of these straight men like seeing guys being bottomed. I hate to say it, but what gets most guys rocks off is not the vagina, but the overall body/face of a woman. And, both girls and trans girls have girl bodies, which is what does it for them. So, their fantasies are more about f*cking the girls than having the girls f*cking them. Sure, in a forum like this, there are plenty of loud power bottoms, but they're not representative of men at large.

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Completely agree. Well put.

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Originally Posted by Nowhere

Look, I don't really care about the straight-versus-gay thing one damn bit, but I do think there's a lot more bisexuality than people make out to be (especially since there is the overwhelming belief of "bi now, gay later" towards ALL MEN these days).

That being said, all I have to say is when that ellery girl was on cam4 yesterday, there were more people watching her than the "female" section of the site. It's just a fact. 2200 vs 1800 for the top girls (no pun intended).

What it comes down to is that with the internet, the bar for sex has been ramped up more, since everything is immediately accessible. Know that it was a lot more work getting porn before it existed, which kept most things on fairly tame levels (why Playboy was so successful). Playboy, for example, was always just beyond what was able to be within easy reach, like swimsuit calendars, etc. Therefore, what was a little 'bad' or 'wrong' was just plain old vanilla sex.

Remember also that this 'wrong' or 'bad' is part of what gets people's rocks off. So, by the internet making anything and everything easily accessible, this bar has been raised. Once it was lesbian porn. That was pretty easily accessible. Then girls started making out for attention in bars. Big deal.

So, that becomes normal and boring, making the bar on what gets people's rocks off goes higher. Trans girls fit a higher bar pretty well, considering it's as 'hidden' as porn once was, and that it's seen as definitely 'wrong' since anything not vanilla sex for men is considered to be on the fast track to homosexuality, so there you go.

I am thoroughly convinced a lot of guys who would call themselves "straight" look at trans porn. I have baited people in the past to unwittingly admit it, as further proof, but I think the porn industry knows it pretty well, too.

Personally, I don't care how people categorize it, but that is what it is.

And, given the fact that most people looking at porn are men, and more guys were looking at trans girls than genetic girls on cam4, at least once, that says quite a lot. And, you know what? I don't care. All I know is that it's going to get damn interesting when a celeb, politician or sports figure finally gets caught with one of you lovely girls where he can't hide it. ;)

P.S. I don't think most of these straight men like seeing guys being bottomed. I hate to say it, but what gets most guys rocks off is not the vagina, but the overall body/face of a woman. And, both girls and trans girls have girl bodies, which is what does it for them. So, their fantasies are more about f*cking the girls than having the girls f*cking them. Sure, in a forum like this, there are plenty of loud power bottoms, but they're not representative of men at large.

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True that... :iagree:

I totally agree with your theory!!!! I have tried to support this opinion in the past here in this forum and i have even get flamed by TSs or other guys for supporting the idea that all straight men like shemales. I was called "gay" cause i admited that i like the cock on a woman!!!! This happened 2-3 years ago. But nowadays seems that the truth is gaining support even by the narrowest minded people Also Nina Arsenault (btw girl...you look stunning!!!) has uploaded this video in youtube. YouTube - The eroticization of M2F transsexuals by straight men Need to say more? M2F transsexuals are the straight man's hard on!!!

To comment on the OPs original statement....Yeah...So What!!!

I haven't read all response to the thread or the youtube link yet so im not sure if what I'll say been said or something similar will be said, but I did mention it once before back when I first joined.

I think eventually either the whole world gonna finally amitt their attraction to tgirls, or the population of men attracted to tgirls are going to rise quickly. I read an article once online on wikipidea about how ladyboys films were first introduced to their public. It started out as men fantasies of women having a cocks and it did successful because their ladyboys/tgirls look just like females, but with a cock that a dude can relate the sexual feeling with during sexual activities, especially during orgasms. Thats always been a huge part of my attraction to tgirls as well, the relation to sensation of sex, plus of course how they look plays a role, and I'm sure the rest of the world gonna realize this as well or be more open about their desires. I like females too, but it's hard to relate sexual feeling lets when when watching them on a porn vid or whatever. Im having a hard time finding that article again but once I find it I'll post it up

Well, all you self hating trannies and losers....apparently 50% of men are gay, because they would fuck a tranny, some of them only drunk though....this poll from a straight site http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=23054
Maybe bitter Saffron is too ugly for a guy to overlook the fact that she was born a dude rolf, u know a guy would fuck an ugly gg, but a shemale has to be flawless for most of them to get over it, sad but true

"...I would fuck this I would fuck that...."

more important question to consider is: Would you love...?

But that's probably spoken too much from a girl's perspective...:ignore:

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Originally Posted by goku

I am an expert on male behaviour because I am one. Our egos rule us. Most men can't stand losing face, and there is no bigger way to lose face then to be perceived as gay. Why do you think men react so violently towards transsexuals?

That being said, it doesn't mean they aren't attracted to you, or wouldn't have sex with you if there were 100% sure no one would find out.

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I know you are right but it's really tragic. I am like 1000% times more masculine then most of the tranny chasers are. Because I don't think anyone can really be called a man when he is so unsure about his own ego and cares so much what other people think.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

...I would fuck this I would fuck that....
more important question is: would you love...

But that's probably viewed too much from a girl perspective...:ignore:

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I think it's difficult for a lot of men to admit those feelings, Birgitta, at least until they've been through some life. I get the impression that some fellows use the word as a shield to hide their feelings and that some use it simply for the shock value or because other guys say things like that. Personally I look at the act of penetration as just one part of the much larger act of making love which is one of several means of sharing intimacy with a woman. I really think the world would be much better off if men would learn how to love instead of worrying about who they're going to fuck next. Just my opinion.:)

U THINK YOU'RE A MAN BUT YOU ARE ONLY A BOY - DIVINE :D :party:

YouTube - divine - you think you're a man

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

U THINK YOU'RE A MAN BUT YOU ARE ONLY A BOY - DIVINE :D :party:

YouTube - divine - you think you're a man

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Hope I'm not screwing up this thread but THIS reminded me of THIS:YouTube - orgazmo - now you are a man

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

I know you are right but it's really tragic. I am like 1000% times more masculine then most of the tranny chasers are.

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Most cockhounds WANT to be feminine at some level.

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Originally Posted by phobun

Most cockhounds WANT to be feminine at some level.

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Precisely... so guys... it should not take a lot of imagination or wonder why some tgirls may seem, SEEM bitchy or bitter....
Imagine how you would feel if you spend your life fighting to be yourself only to attract men who desire from you to be the exact opposite of what you are, and want to be your girlfriend while calling themselves straight, and will not hold hands with you on the streets or even be seen with you!

It 's not so hard understand they aren't jumping from joy when encountering such a man...and no wonder some of the girls start calling you gay...even though they know that actually would be an insult for an openly gay man :)

love
Birgitta

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Originally Posted by bte

All the straight guys I know don't like transsexuals.

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no offense but most guys dont admit those things.. its happened to me several times ive had guy friends confide in me that they were attracted to me and 'not to tell anyone'.. but i dont really have interest in being somebodys dirty little secret.. i deserve better than that. i have feelings

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Originally Posted by toopretty

And all the people that think fucking for getting fucked by tgirls is gay...i think your wrong. I think fucking a tgirl that had SRS is even more gay if I use your logic. They still have a cock. its still there but its just in a different form (pretty much inside out)..so fucking a tgirl that had SRS is SUPER GAY! think about it...your actually fucking their cock with your cock. putting your cock inside someone else's cock is the ultimate in gay sex acts! hahaha

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I would hope that you have taken biology and realize that a gg's vagina is basicly an inside out penis anyways.. but it is presence of SRY gene in fetus that causes ovaries to develop into testes (read: your balls were originally ovaries FYI) urogenital folds fuse and become the scrotum (read: ballsack is originally labial folds in utero)
it is not like male and female are two completely different creatures and women are made of girl atoms and men are made of men atoms.. jeez
Whatever "SUPER GAY!" impression you have is a mental block.. because whether you like it or not vaginal sex (between male and female) whether a neo-vagina or a natal vagina is strictly heterosexual..

The female body is the original human prototype. That's why men have nipples.:)

WOW,U nailed it! Also what cumms into play is that everyday GG's r less Fem than Tgurls nowadays! Its Fantastic that so many Guys are on the DL 4 Tgurls>Yummmmmm! As 4 bein someones Dirty Secret,IT MAKES THE SEX SO MUCH MORE FUN!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by RACQUEL

WOW,U nailed it! Also what cumms into play is that everyday GG's r less Fem than Tgurls nowadays! Its Fantastic that so many Guys are on the DL 4 Tgurls>Yummmmmm! As 4 bein someones Dirty Secret,IT MAKES THE SEX SO MUCH MORE FUN!!!!!!!

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You're only saying this because you're a CD, and not an actual transsexual. smh

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Originally Posted by tsnajwa

no offense but most guys dont admit those things.. its happened to me several times ive had guy friends confide in me that they were attracted to me and 'not to tell anyone'.. but i dont really have interest in being somebodys dirty little secret.. i deserve better than that. i have feelings

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I hear ya, but my friends know I have been in relationships with TS. They have met some of my TS partners, so I would think that they would feel comfortable in confiding in me if they like transsexuals. They don't like TS, but they don't like dick. I imagine if the TS was post op, then they wouldn't mind.

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Originally Posted by RACQUEL

WOW,U nailed it! Also what cumms into play is that everyday GG's r less Fem than Tgurls nowadays! Its Fantastic that so many Guys are on the DL 4 Tgurls>Yummmmmm! As 4 bein someones Dirty Secret,IT MAKES THE SEX SO MUCH MORE FUN!!!!!!!

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GG's are less fem than tgirls? Righ?

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Originally Posted by ryz

you're only saying this because you're a cd, and not an actual transsexual. Smh

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lol.......

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Originally Posted by tsnajwa

no offense but most guys dont admit those things.. its happened to me several times ive had guy friends confide in me that they were attracted to me and 'not to tell anyone'.. but i dont really have interest in being somebodys dirty little secret.. i deserve better than that. i have feelings

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You're hanging out with the wrong guys, hon. That's total bs on the guy's part. A former friend once made the mistake of telling me that he couldn't believe I'd married a fatty after being married to a slender girl. I was tempted to punch him out, but settled for telling him to never come near me or my wife again. One possible response to such a comment: "Why thank you. I'm attracted to you as well, but please don't tell anyone because I don't people to know that I like total loser assholes."

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Originally Posted by Beaner

Im a straight man and I fuck shemales! I would never admit it to anyone in real life but I love fucking shemales!

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it seems to me that you are unable to fuck shemale but you are able to fuck your big mouth,

straight men and women and bisexual women like shemales, but gay men and assholes dislike shemales,:)

If all straight dudes liked trans girls then why so many murders? The theory doesn't hold water. Just another dude rationalizing his way out of being, the gay.

NO!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

If all straight dudes liked trans girls then why so many murders? The theory doesn't hold water. Just another dude rationalizing his way out of being, the gay.

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I completely agree. Society in general still doesn't consider t-women to be women, despite the obvious. And many men are just too happy in return to use them to justify their gay desires. There's nothing wrong with being gay, of course; using transsexuality to make yourself believe that you aren't, outside fantasy, is a bit more debatable, imo. And denying t-women's reality for this purpose is as objectionable.
Then again, accepting to be called anything and recognizing what you like, be it strictly and only bottoming for transsexual women who are willing to top, is absolutely fine too, providing you realize and acknowledge what the reality of these women is.

Also, just in case anyone chimes in with, "Well dudes that like trannies sometimes murder them because they can't face the fact they like penises and so they lash out aggressively..." then it would stand to reason that we only destroy things because we want them or want to be them and that's just plain dumbfuckery. I've never yearned to be the thing I wanted to get into a physical altercation with and neither have any of you.

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

If all straight dudes liked trans girls then why so many murders? The theory doesn't hold water. Just another dude rationalizing his way out of being, the gay.

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Tgirls are girls and a straight guy attracted to femininity will respond to that. When he finds out the girl he's attracted to is more than she seems he might be intrigued or repulsed. If he's repulsed then more than likely it will be accompanied by self loathing for ever being attracted in the first place.

Either way, finding out the girl you dig has a cock will play havoc on your sexuality if you've always thought you were straight. If you can get past that it's like discovering girls all over again.

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

Also, just in case anyone chimes in with, "Well dudes that like trannies sometimes murder them because they can't face the fact they like penises and so they lash out aggressively..." then it would stand to reason that we only destroy things because we want them or want to be them and that's just plain dumbfuckery. I've never yearned to be the thing I wanted to get into a physical altercation with and neither have any of you.

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Yes, it is my theory that all sexually active men are attracted to transsexual girls...of course, only a small minority will act out.

And yes Jamie, unfortunately, it's all too true that "dudes that like trannies sometimes murder them because they can't face the fact they like penises and so they lash out aggressively..."